Random dude : "So can we expect some voice chat ?"
Reggie : "Yes, through the application we're developping"
It's pretty straight forward.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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Reggie : "Yes, through the application we're developping"
It's pretty straight forward.
You'll be able to do quickplay online.
Nintendo will just have launched a console without friendlist, voice chat and basic matchmaking capabilities - again.
edit: I forgot the free trial period. Seems like some of that stuff will be ready at launch.
I totally agree, no offence taken. I mute all voice whenever my kid is playing on the PS4. It's more that to do anything online, such as joining a random race, we need to use the app.
GribbleGrunger
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Parental controls and parenting FTW.
Sleight of Jam
Banned
This is ridiculous they're going the same route as Wii-U with convoluted information all of over the place. How did they not think of talking about this in detail during the stream? Are they that far up their own asses that they just assume people will understand?
If the Switch fails it's yet again Nintendo's dumb ignorant approach that will be the overall cause. Absolute insane. Must be smoking a truck ton of meth at HQ JP.
It's Nintendo so they're going to continue to Nintendo. Don't bet on them actually making something straight forward and simple to use.
If the Switch fails it's yet again Nintendo's dumb ignorant approach that will be the overall cause. Absolute insane. Must be smoking a truck ton of meth at HQ JP.
It's Nintendo so they're going to continue to Nintendo. Don't bet on them actually making something straight forward and simple to use.
No doubt, but that still doesn't rule out being able to do it natively, and this could easily just read like someone pushing the use of an app, you know?
Either way, who knew this many people played Nintendo stuff online enough to be mad about all this. Not me!
Ocarina_117
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I'm leaning towards this just being an extra feature which has been miscommunicated.
In Service
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I hope this isn't the case as said elsewhere. I can accept a lesser version of matchmaking without the app but it's still a bonkers idea.
We literally do not know if the app is the only way to do these things.
The way I've read it is "you can do this on the app" which means they're explaining the app and not what the console can and can't do.
And this says nothing about the actual quality of the app itself. Nintendo has never done anything like this before and there's no way they'll nail it first time around.
Can you imagine the crashes. The jankiness. Losing connection. Laggy servers. Long wait times. Bugs everywhere. Awful matchmaking. Shitty interface. Lack of features. Security exploits. Lack of updates. Battery drain. Memory leaks.
The release version of this app is going to be truly wretched.
Can you imagine the crashes. The jankiness. Losing connection. Laggy servers. Long wait times. Bugs everywhere. Awful matchmaking. Shitty interface. Lack of features. Security exploits. Lack of updates. Battery drain. Memory leaks.
The release version of this app is going to be truly wretched.
WiseSplinteR
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Will the app only work if your switch is connected? Some kind of weird dual online login ...
Why would you need your phone to voice chat on-the-go if the Switch can remain connected on-the-go? If the Switch does not have 3G then you won't be playing multiplayer in portable mode anyway. This is so confusing...
Why would you need your phone to voice chat on-the-go if the Switch can remain connected on-the-go? If the Switch does not have 3G then you won't be playing multiplayer in portable mode anyway. This is so confusing...
Dark Cloud
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Yeah, because the app can be on the Switch.
Isn't that the best way to go?? Have the app for people to use, but put it ON the Switch and put it on your smartphone.
It's just hard to believe the app is on the Switch when they keep saying voice chat through the smart device.
Its pretty clear that hey will outsource this
This is what I believe as well. I don't play consoles online, but I understand that is what normal people do. The online service does not mention the app just that you need to pay a fee for the online multiplayer aspects of most games.
No this is denial. If it was also supported natively they would have just said so by now.
There are plenty of Nintendo games I play online lol.
The app is surely done by DeNa, Nintendo's partner for Online Services and maybe one of the explanation for the app. Nintendo may not have allowed DeNa access to the system's OS and, to ensure that everything can be updated when DeNa pushes a fix, it required a third party system hence the app.
More specifically I'd like to assume that the "app" is only a OS-level "matchmaking" system as opposed to a game one. It'll be how you manage party lobbies and I wouldn't be surprised if they have some interesting hooks in place for it (the parental controls they've got going for the Switch is pretty neat stuff) but outside of that, there should be nothing stopping devs from just doing straight up traditional friend lobbies in-game like Mario Kart or Splatoon.
Yeah, Reggie says you'll do matchmaking on the phone but that's why I think this interview is just worded in a shitty way. Playing with randoms is already matchmaking and no one's disputing just playing online regularly. Unless Nintendo will straight up block games from reading your friends list and allow to invite/join people I don't see this stopping gaming with friends day one.
Ragnar Blackmane
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That means you will never see messages, will miss out on hidden passages and thus content and equipment and will never see half of the humorous in in-jokes the community creates with the messaging system. And you don't get helpful hints that tell you there is a boss behind that door,hidden bonfires (e.g. the Sen's Fortress bonfire) that you can only reach by jumping down somewhere even if you are extremely likely to miss alone, as well as tips how to deal with enemies and bosses. Invasions are almost non-existent in Dark Souls 3 and barely existent in DS2 and Bloodborne anyway. When invasions are a non-issue (and they could always be avoided in DS1 and DS3 by simply being hollowed/undead) there is literally 0 reason not to play online
I dont think they will go to a Smartphone Game Company when there are developers who are specialized in online services
Shadow Broker
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I would feel bad for Reggie if he weren't making millions. (Or I assume)
He's just a puppet. Nintendo of Japan makes his decisions and give him his marching orders and he probably has to follow them to a letter or he will get fired.
Even if he knows this app is bullshit he will never admit to it. It'll career suicide if he does.
He's just a puppet. Nintendo of Japan makes his decisions and give him his marching orders and he probably has to follow them to a letter or he will get fired.
Even if he knows this app is bullshit he will never admit to it. It'll career suicide if he does.
test_account
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I'm not really expecting anything, but i wouldnt be surprise to see a change.
Oh it's not "will they go". They already have:
"Nintendo, together with DeNA, will jointly develop a new membership service which encompasses the existing Nintendo 3DS and Wii U systems, the new hardware system with a brand-new concept, NX, and smart devices and PCs, and Nintendo will be the primary party to operate this new membership service."
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/12/14057166/nintendo-switch-paid-online-service
Seems logical to me that they would be in charge of that part of the online when they built the whole new account system for Nintendo.
It's possible that company had no idea what kind of chat support the Switch had and just made earbuds with the Zelda license.
The Wii and WiiU did not have on either, ridiculous but I expected that.
I got rid of my Wiiu, but for the life of me cannot remember if the tablet controller could use a mike as I never played online with it
Explains a lot then
I think you don't know what rational means. You should check what logical reasoning is and how it's so much more than just reading some facts.
This would be totally fine if they gave you the option of whether or not you need to use it. If I am playing on the go, it would make infinitely more sense to just have the lobby making and chat stuff on the actual tablet screen with my headset hooked into the audio jack. However, if you are playing it in docked mode, it's much less practical to run the headphones from wherever your console is docked, thus making the smartphone option viable.
That said, In two years when the Switch will have come down in price (I would at least hope it has) and children are buying it in droves, the majority of children under the age of 10 don't have their own cell phone from which to run this app. It's like they don't understand their most important demographic.
Here's hoping that intense backlash will get them to integrate the features into the actual console...
That said, In two years when the Switch will have come down in price (I would at least hope it has) and children are buying it in droves, the majority of children under the age of 10 don't have their own cell phone from which to run this app. It's like they don't understand their most important demographic.
Here's hoping that intense backlash will get them to integrate the features into the actual console...
breveglieri
Banned
This is so funny it has to be made up!
No way this is true! NO WAY! Not even Nintendo would be that stupid
No way this is true! NO WAY! Not even Nintendo would be that stupid
how do you know this? I know he described that functionality as being done through a "smart phone app", but Im asking if we know whether or not that functionality will also be available on the Switch itself
I guess many are not interested in switch to begin with, but seeing Nintendo pulling another one of their numbers completely baffles and upsets people. It's only natural. After the initial unveiling of the switch the overall reception was quite good, I can see many people considering switch thanks to the portability it seemed there were signs that in Kyoto came back to his senses... Instead.. We're here discussing something that can be either stupid or explained in a stupid way.
Sure, there are some complaints that I really think are about non issues, but this...
I don't know the reasons and I can't even imagine that. I don't know if it's cause of an excessive focus on the Japanese smartphone market or.. I really have no idea XD
We dont know yet. And thats the Issue, Reggie could either shut the fuck up when he doesnt know exactly to avoid situations like this or he could start give detailed answers.
Because if it were available through the switch they would have said it - rather than repeatedly saying it was through a smartphone app?
Nintendo do stupid things, but they aren't morons. There isn't going to be a hidden system built into the switch that they just forgot to tell everyone about.
Oh I agree with you, it's totally nonsensical. I'm just saying we have little to no information and a lot of assumptions are being made based on that.
Not to mention I truly think "matchmaking" as the Wii U had it will certainly be available from the launch of the games coming out, outside of all this other business (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will have online the same way Wii U did, no doubt).
I wonder if the audio from the switch is going to be streamed to the phone through the app. That's the only way I can see this being somewhat convenient, plugging your headset into your phone like you would a Dualshock 4 controller and doing all audio through that. Inviting/Matchmaking is whatever to me since both phone and console UI tends to be slow either way. I'm willing to give it a shot.
Calm waterfall
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So backwards so funny. But seriously Nintendo has shown that they did not learn much from previous failure and successes.
there's a lot they haven't mentioned, that doesn't mean those things don't exist. and no, if they put voice chat through phones only and its not able to do it on the switch, the same year they start charging for online, then they are indeed morons.
Bwahaha wtf is Nintendo thinking?
So let me get this straight, whether I'm at home or a hot spot, I need a smart phone to do basic matchmaking and chat functionality. On top of this stupid solution, I can't have quality audio and chat through the system but instead need to hook up some shitty ear buds to my phone? I don't understand how am I supposed to hear the game when I'm talking through the phone?
It's amazing how poorly designed this whole console is looking to be. Instead of requiring an app, how about you build the functionality into the OS that will still be running in the background? I wonder if this means parents will have to buy or loan their smartphone to their kids when they want to play online.
Also who the hell plays online games at a Hotspot area? The connection is generally so shitty, I can't imagine it being a good experience. Though Nintendo has never understood online gaming, so I don't expect them to start now.
So let me get this straight, whether I'm at home or a hot spot, I need a smart phone to do basic matchmaking and chat functionality. On top of this stupid solution, I can't have quality audio and chat through the system but instead need to hook up some shitty ear buds to my phone? I don't understand how am I supposed to hear the game when I'm talking through the phone?
It's amazing how poorly designed this whole console is looking to be. Instead of requiring an app, how about you build the functionality into the OS that will still be running in the background? I wonder if this means parents will have to buy or loan their smartphone to their kids when they want to play online.
Also who the hell plays online games at a Hotspot area? The connection is generally so shitty, I can't imagine it being a good experience. Though Nintendo has never understood online gaming, so I don't expect them to start now.
Ha, that's a good point. You can't connect your phone to wireless and make it hotspot at the same time. At least on Android. So even on places where you have access to wireless network (like home) all this will eat out of your mobile data plan.
Edit: It should work via the wireless router though.
DrROBschiz
Member
Lol the internet is finally catching up to something Im been getting outraged about since Jan 12th
sturgboski
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Why would they answer with and push the app if the console has it? Why wouldn't they explain that you can do this from the switch itself and then explain how there is also a cell app to allow for this as an additional feature/item. Stating all this is done on the cell app coupled with the bullshit "we did this because of bulky headsets" excuse implies that at least at launch cell app is only option.
Bury your head in the sand all you want but this has been repeated multiple times since the Direct, either by Reggie or the official Nintendo site. They're trying to sell this thing, why be vague about it.
They've been showing us they don't learn for generations now.
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