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Remember when the Greatest Quarterback of All Time got his good name screwed over in a smear campaign hit job?

Was deflategate bullshit?

  • Absolutely.

    Votes: 29 65.9%
  • I'm stupid and believe a bunch of lies and propaganda

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • Total voters
    44

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
Four Games in Fall is on Amazon.


Yahoo Finance talks about it:



"The documentary “Four Games in Fall” annihilates the NFL for the Deflategate scandal, showing it is highly unlikely, and certainly never proven, that the footballs Tom Brady used in the 2015 AFC championship game were even deflated beyond what Ideal Gas Law would dictate.

Rather than back down when confronted with the realities of science, the league used biased investigators, manipulated evidence and an effective, if pathetic, misinformation campaign to railroad Brady, who wound up suspended for four games.

The film is nearly two hours of scientists, lawyers and professors systematically debunking a story that is more about abuse of power than what did, or more accurately, didn’t occur."

Deflategate is such a fucking scam. I'll never forgive Goodell for this.
 

HoodWinked

Member
many documentaries frame stuff to build their chosen narrative. looking at the actual data it does seem the punishment was warranted patriots balls were all clearly under the 12.5 and 13.5 psi range. compared to the Colt's balls which were much closer to being within the bottom range. this is coming from a fair weather brady fan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate#Physics_argument
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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
If you say the Patriots cheated by replacing one of the players with a grizzly bear, I would believe you.
 

oagboghi2

Member
many documentaries frame stuff to build their chosen narrative. looking at the actual data it does seem the punishment was warranted patriots balls were all clearly under the 12.5 and 13.5 psi range. compared to the Colt's balls which were much closer to being within the bottom range. this is coming from a fair weather brady fan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate#Physics_argument
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Does the documentary go I to this. I would hope so
 

008

Banned
I would say my favorite QB to watch all time is Aaron Rodgers. Love the way he plays the game.

Should be a fun NFC championship game.
 

JSoup

Banned
I don't know dick about football, but "deflategate" sounds like a specific kind of fetish I'd find artwork for on deviantart.
 

LordCBH

Member
The colts were just mediocre as shit and wanted to come up with an excuse as to why they got the shit beat out of them.
Never forget this level of pathetic:
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BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
My memory is fuzzy and I never saw that doc, but didn't even Neil deGrasse Tyson come to Brady's defense back when the scandal went down, explaining the physics and what not? I seem to remember some high-profile popularizer of science weighing in.
 
What’s next, they’re going to try to debunk them recording other teams practices as well?

So you don't know what actually happened. They were punished for videotaping the opposing team's sideline from an unauthorized location. Every team videotaped their opponents, but you had to be in a certain area of the stadium. The Patriots did it like 150 feet away from that area and in a worse viewing location. They broke a "rule" that was really only a memo from Goodell.

Again, there was no rule saying you couldn't record the opposing sidelines.
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
This issue may have been over blown but I believe 2 things

1 - There was something to this
2 - This wasnt the only stain on TB's name

ps - Montana.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Tom Brady scored 24 pts or less in 5 Superbowl appearances.

He is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL.
 

JaseMath

Member
Tom Brady scored 24 pts or less in 5 Superbowl appearances.

He is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL.
That by itself is impressive. I don't think Brady is a football genius by any means, but I appreciate his competitiveness. That said, I always root for him to lose.
 
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MMaRsu

Member
I dont know NFL but it wouldnt surprise.me a big organisation says one thing, is disproven but sticks with their bs tale anyway.
 

Dr Bass

Member
Tom Brady scored 24 pts or less in 5 Superbowl appearances.

He is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL.

The hyper inflated points of recent seasons is just a side effect of the rule changes that greatly favor offense. You just can't play D anymore. 24-17 used to be a really high scoring game.
 

DESTROYA

Member
I would say my favorite QB to watch all time is Aaron Rodgers. Love the way he plays the game.

Should be a fun NFC championship game.
You like watching losers play, 1-4 in Championship games . OK
Tom Brady scored 24 pts or less in 5 Superbowl appearances.

He is the most overrated QB in the history of the NFL.
Your delusional , he is going to have 10 SB appearances and going for a 7th ring....yeah highly overrated :pie_roffles:
What’s next, they’re going to try to debunk them recording other teams practices as well?
To be fair thats more on Belichick‘s and has nothing to do with Brady.

All I see is a QB that has crushed the hearts and dreams of most of the NFL and pissed off fans that are jealous.
Any of these guys crying about Brady would kill to have him on there team.
Haters going to hate but you can’t deny the results.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
You like watching losers play, 1-4 in Championship games . OK

Your delusional , he is going to have 10 SB appearances and going for a 7th ring....yeah highly overrated :pie_roffles:

To be fair thats more on Belichick‘s and has nothing to do with Brady.

All I see is a QB that has crushed the hearts and dreams of most of the NFL and pissed off fans that are jealous.
Any of these guys crying about Brady would kill to have him on there team.
Haters going to hate but you can’t deny the results.
I would still like to see how these QBs would perform pre-rules era, where they would go after QBs like snipers and before WRs were treated with don't touch kid gloves on coverage. Which was ironically changed with Brady coming up hence the "Brady Rules" the league called them.

Better yet, the greats that had to deal with players like LT and the like, brought into the new era of rules. But we will never know. Maybe they can make AI programs for that.
 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
The hyper inflated points of recent seasons is just a side effect of the rule changes that greatly favor offense. You just can't play D anymore. 24-17 used to be a really high scoring game.

Looks pretty average to below average to me.

 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
You like watching losers play, 1-4 in Championship games . OK

Your delusional , he is going to have 10 SB appearances and going for a 7th ring....yeah highly overrated :pie_roffles:

To be fair thats more on Belichick‘s and has nothing to do with Brady.

All I see is a QB that has crushed the hearts and dreams of most of the NFL and pissed off fans that are jealous.
Any of these guys crying about Brady would kill to have him on there team.
Haters going to hate but you can’t deny the results.

He's overrated because "Super Bowl appearances" are a horrific metric to gauge a players talent or impact.

Tom Brady was a good QB. But he's also the single most overrated NFL player of all time.
 
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DESTROYA

Member
I would still like to see how these QBs would perform pre-rules era, where they would go after QBs like snipers and before WRs were treated with don't touch kid gloves on coverage. Which was ironically changed with Brady coming up hence the "Brady Rules" the league called them.

Better yet, the greats that had to deal with players like LT and the like, brought into the new era of rules. But we will never know. Maybe they can make AI programs for that.

Wide receivers used stickum back in the day


LT probably played all coked because the Giants admitted they knew about his


I’m guessing being a all time great he would be fine, he is more a prototypical old school pocket passer with great accuracy and when in his prime very good arm strength ( still pretty good ).
 

DESTROYA

Member
He's overrated because "Super Bowl appearances" are a horrific metric to gauge a players talent or impact.

Tom Brady was a good QB. But he's also the single most overrated NFL player of all time.
Let me guess your a disgruntled fan that lost to Brady in a SB ? Sour grapes bro and he has won 6 SB more than any other player whose ever played....overrated
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So list me QB’s that where better ?
 

MrS

Banned
He's overrated because "Super Bowl appearances" are a horrific metric to gauge a players talent or impact.
What about Super Bowl wins? He has more of those than anybody else too.

Is coming through in the clutch overrated too?
 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Let me guess your a disgruntled fan that lost to Brady in a SB ? Sour grapes bro and he has won 6 SB more than any other player whose ever played....overrated
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So list me QB’s that where better ?

No, I'm offended by the idea that a teams success can be attributed to a single player.

I actually like Brady. But he's no GOAT.

Dan Marino was way better.
 
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