DragonNCM
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Report: Microsoft now blocking VPN for Xbox purchases/code redemptions in other regions
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yes, but they are forecasting that more revenue from fewer paying subscribers will be more profitable for them than lots of subscribers that got the cheap deals.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
By the way, is it now the same as PSN?
So folks who are not living in a supported region will not be able to legally make another region account and purchase games? What happens to games like Sea of Thieves on Steam that require an Xbox account?
Will it be a similar situation as Sony PSN/Hellidvers 2 on Steam problem?
ManaByte
Gold Member
No you can still change your console region at any time. You just can't exploit VPN to get stuff cheap from Turkey anymore.
DragonNCM
Member
I don't care about cheaper games FFS, I CANT BUY GAMES AT ALL FROM MY COUNTRY/REGION !!! IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND ?
THAT IS FOR XBOX CONSOLE GAMES & GAMEPASS.
Is it FUCKING CLEAR NOW ?
vent out.....
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Okay, got it. So "console region" and "location associated with your Microsoft account" are two different things? And both can be different at the same time?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
relax man
There hasn't been an official announcement on this and other users have said they have been able to get stuff without issues in the last couple of days. Maybe this is a soft-implementation for specific regions and not universal.
We won't know until official PR comes out.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Yea you can switch your console to any region at any time. Just needs a reboot to do it. It's how people play games early. Pre-order a game on your US console/account, switch the console to New Zealand and it'll unlock and you can play it early.
SenkiDala
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Wow that's a huge news in fact. I know dozens of people who play on Xbox for the ONLY REASON that you can buy games on sites... that I won't name here, but yeah Turkish keys of a game that's 60/70€ on the store and you can get the for 2 or 3€ sometimes...
I even know whole WEBSITES talking just about this.
I knew that someday it'd end, it was too good to last.
I remember CP2077 being at 6€ around day one, Teardown complete edition at 1€ on day one, 2 or 3€ for Rogue Legacy 2, 20€ for BG3 on day one...
I even know whole WEBSITES talking just about this.
I knew that someday it'd end, it was too good to last.
I remember CP2077 being at 6€ around day one, Teardown complete edition at 1€ on day one, 2 or 3€ for Rogue Legacy 2, 20€ for BG3 on day one...
Dunno where you're from man but my wife is from Cuba and yeah in countries like that... no luck. Well anyway they're more focused to find places to buy food than buy games anyway.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Correct, hence the "i'm going to newzealand" meme to play games almost a full day before their western release.
reinking
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Not_A-Cop_Maybe
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They probably found different audience and made safe decision.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Exactly. Posted the Steam ToS page link stating the same just on this very page.
I don't use vpn, what about localization?
IFireflyl
Gold Member
I don't think anyone on this forum would consider me a Microsoft or Xbox fanboy. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with this move.
Regional pricing isn't a requirement. It is done so that people in poor countries/locals can still purchase and play the game. When people abuse this with VPN workarounds, it makes it less profitable for a company to support regional pricing. Cracking down on workarounds lets the company continue to provide regional pricing without being taken advantage of by people in first-world companies who simply don't want to pay full price for a game.
If this drives someone to piracy then they were already predisposed to pirate content anyway. If a company lowers employee wages and then that employee steals from the company, the employee gets in trouble. Resorting to piracy over this is no different.
P.S. In regard to making sweeping statements while calling people who disagree idiots: check yourself, man. You're not God's gift to NeoGAF. Don't come out of the gates being intentionally offensive.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Xbox has been closing loopholes because they are +$70 billion in the red
ManaByte
Gold Member
That's been a common trait among many of the newbies lately.
cormack12
Gold Member
You're so cryptofascist
Smeg&TheHeads
Banned
VPNs allow
a) people who don't have a store in their country to have access,
b) content that's region locked to one country to be accessed in other countries.
Saying that anyone who is forced to pirate because they're locked out is predisposed to pirating is retarded.
P.S. If you don't want your opinion to be called retarded, stop having retarded opinions.
They found different audience, this move is risky, it's obvious, if you look back historicaly speaking, the industry do make risky moves, it happens but rarely.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Except that's not what this thread is about. They changed the policy so people who do have a store in their country can't use a VPN to access cheaper stores in three countries.
Thanks.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
We're not talking about content that is necessary to sustain life. We're talking about digital media. If digital content isn't allowed in your country, that doesn't give you a moral/ethical right to pirate it. Either what you want is worth moving for, or you can live without it. The only retarded take I'm seeing is yours.
Smeg&TheHeads
Banned
I said using VPNs encourages people NOT to pirate it. Learn to read.
Stafford
Member
Some people still buy gift cards for like Brazil and then buy the game, no VPN needed. But is that even allowed at all? They are not from Brazil.
Either way, I'm not risking my huge ass library. I mean whenever a good game comes out that me and my bro dig we'll split the costs, so it's still not too bad even at full price.
Either way, I'm not risking my huge ass library. I mean whenever a good game comes out that me and my bro dig we'll split the costs, so it's still not too bad even at full price.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
ResetERA must be fuming over this. Using VPN tricks has been a big part of many of them getting Game Pass on the cheap. Now that Microsoft are cutting that option out, we'll see how much they truly value the service.
This is something MS should've probably done a while ago TBH; keeping the loophole open (that's what it was) was just them currying favor with certain folks hoping the sub count would grow as a result. It didn't, so there's no point keeping the option around. Plus I think they're going to keep removing features from Game Pass anyway, and eventually lock Day 1 game access to just the highest tier.
For the tiers under that, it'll just become a glorified version of what PS+ used to be in the PS3 days, but maybe a few extra perks like game streaming and free/discounted MTX for various 1P & 3P GAAS titles. They'll probably still find a way to justify having online play paywalled behind those lower tiers though.
I kinda forgot about that. Although TBH, it's not like the B2P market on Xbox is as strong as it was in the 360 or even the early XBO generation. These VPN tricks just ultimately meant less money for MS & 3P in B2P sales, since the absolute number of customers wasn't growing on Xbox consoles over the past decade to offset more buying at cheaper prices via VPNs.
And Microsoft can thank themselves with that, especially in the past 4-5 years, thanks to their heavy push onto Steam.
This is something MS should've probably done a while ago TBH; keeping the loophole open (that's what it was) was just them currying favor with certain folks hoping the sub count would grow as a result. It didn't, so there's no point keeping the option around. Plus I think they're going to keep removing features from Game Pass anyway, and eventually lock Day 1 game access to just the highest tier.
For the tiers under that, it'll just become a glorified version of what PS+ used to be in the PS3 days, but maybe a few extra perks like game streaming and free/discounted MTX for various 1P & 3P GAAS titles. They'll probably still find a way to justify having online play paywalled behind those lower tiers though.
I kinda forgot about that. Although TBH, it's not like the B2P market on Xbox is as strong as it was in the 360 or even the early XBO generation. These VPN tricks just ultimately meant less money for MS & 3P in B2P sales, since the absolute number of customers wasn't growing on Xbox consoles over the past decade to offset more buying at cheaper prices via VPNs.
And Microsoft can thank themselves with that, especially in the past 4-5 years, thanks to their heavy push onto Steam.
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Smeg&TheHeads
Banned
Yes, because people who want to buy it and have no means to are automatically predisposed to piracy. You're retarded. Also, you're not the boss of me.
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this why is this a good thing?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I guess this doesn't really affect me - the utility for me would be getting access to the JP lineup from the US. But... there hasn't been a Japanese release I've wanted on the Xbox since Cave was putting out games back on the 360.
Anyway, if this is to prevent people in the US from paying pennies for games by buying from other regions, I get it.
Anyway, if this is to prevent people in the US from paying pennies for games by buying from other regions, I get it.
finalflame
Banned
Cull the broke boys.
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Shtef
Member
I have tested it, Turkey store is not working anymore, it gives an error saying you have to switch to correct region.
I changed my region to USA and i could buy games using my local debit card.
So thats it, ms has blocked Turkey, Brazil and Argentina regions, if you live in not supported country just select US as your territory, put some address from google maps (I have selected California becuase they dont charge you extra for taxes) add your local card and you can purchase games.
I changed my region to USA and i could buy games using my local debit card.
So thats it, ms has blocked Turkey, Brazil and Argentina regions, if you live in not supported country just select US as your territory, put some address from google maps (I have selected California becuase they dont charge you extra for taxes) add your local card and you can purchase games.
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Lukaku's First Touch
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I already got a mail from some sketchy russian site that their prices are going up. I paid 60 bucks for 2 years of gamepass ultimate just a month ago trough them.
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