Schweinehund
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I think they already reverted the wizard back to his classic look in Dark Days Or maybe he was just the wizard of his time? The darkseid one shot made it sound like Wizard was kind of a fluid title for whoever was on the council.
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Report: 'Shazam' eyeing Cena or Sasse, Billy Batson character bio revealed
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JonnyDBrit
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That's kinda one of the uncertainties of the event, and why reverting to the Captain Marvel title for a film might not be entirely off brand. The tricky thing is that compared to other heroes, the alterations to Billy's history, lore, and status quo are actually pretty significant and blending the two together ala what they've done with Superman would not exactly be easy (and that's already a mess for casual readers to understand).
Those are two very different choices. Sasse was amazing on Galavant, as the dozen or so other people who watched it will attest, and I'd be happy to see him get a big film role.
Agreed. I can't see them actually using the Captain Marvel name.
Agreed. I can't see them actually using the Captain Marvel name.
OrangeAtlas
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Isn't The Rock out of this movie?
LordOfLore
Banned
Wonder who might be the villain. Adam sounds like he'll not be the main villain or show up much(makes sense since he's getting his own movie) so maybe they'll do Mr. Mind?
My money would be Mr.Mind with Dr.Sivana involved. But they could have fun with any of those really.
JonnyDBrit
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Supposedly the plan is that he's getting his own film - possibly even before Shazam - which is just... I want to say I'm bewildered by it, but it's honestly kinda tame vs the other recent proposals for what DC is looking into in terms of villain pictures.
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Captain Nazi would be stunningly relevant.
Schweinehund
Member
Yeah Black Adam was deconfirmed (which is so odd because Rock was like contracted for a movie role in 2014... guessing Johns likes the character enough that he's really pushing for that solo film), which in a way makes me happy, because I always felt like Black Adam has overshadowed Billy like Doom does the fantastic four.
I think we'll get a twofer. Sivana &
Captain Nazi
I always liked Sabbac too, but I doubt they use him.
Pantheon probably still in given WW's backstory, I don't think his classic costume with the short cape is likely, I can't think of the last time that's been his appearance in media by default. Aesthetically I expect him to be like new 52 to help differentiate from superman, lots of lightning and playing up the magic aspect, rather than kind of glossing over it.
Hope they keep Tawny in some fashion, I'm thinking we won't get the family until the sequel or the end, and it'll probably just be Mary for now.
OrangeAtlas
Member
New plot: the movie is like Space Jam, and Billy gets his powers by sucking the talent out of other wrestlers.
LordOfLore
Banned
God, when the book isn't lighthearted Mr. Mind can be so creepy. Him showing up in The Black Ring arc really surprised me, even more his hiding place.
His one appearance in the New 52 could've led to some interesting stories:
Lol. I follow.
Cena is probably the best choice for SHAZAM, he may actually be growing his hair out a little already.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Part of why I really wish they had continued the backup series, since no proper run ever emerged. Had they kept his alien origins, while evidently having in some fashion aware of magic, it honestly could have looped into developing the more familiar character of Sivana - have Mr Mind meld him into a man whose mad science stems from his ability to see the esoteric aspects of reality through his magic gaze, and manipulate them. Perhaps even literally see that one formula that lets him open portals.
Having Cena, as a brand unto himself, play Shazam is just too perfect. I can see there being hurdles however if suddenly WWE want a piece of the action with a co-producing credit which I know used to be an issue with productions wanting to use WWE talent in films in the past.
As for this other guy, I have never heard of this Galavant guy at all. I Googled him and apparently he's English and used to date Kylie Minogue. At least he'd be cheap.
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As for this other guy, I have never heard of this Galavant guy at all. I Googled him and apparently he's English and used to date Kylie Minogue. At least he'd be cheap.
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They are saving him for Nightwing, I can totally see Affleck and Channing going back and forth arguing about what's best for Gotham
NeonZ
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I'd guess they'd go with Sivana using a plot similar to the multiversity one shot, but with no Marvel/Sivana family - he manages to copy Captain Marvel's powers in the movie's climax. Dark mirror matches are cliche but it would give them a Black Adam stand-in for fighting scenes.
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thepotatoman
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As much as I despise the Cena character in the WWE, Cena's a good actor. I liked him in The Marine.
It'll be a little weird to have two wrestlers headline it, but whatever.
It'll be a little weird to have two wrestlers headline it, but whatever.
The only reason Fawcett let the name fall into trademark hell is the DC sued them out of busines (While Superman came first, Captain Marvel was much more popular during World War II). DC bought facetts characters over a decade after Marvel has been making Captain Marvel comics.
DC has been using the "Shazam" as the character for almost 7 years now. I think there will be a legal battle I'd they use the name.
Carol Danvers is just the latest in a long line of name usurpers, and I'm optimistic to see DC still using the name Captain Marvel at this point, since the only real mandate is to not use it in the title.
At his best, Billy's got guts in service of that too, which makes it so that giving him powers just enables him to plausibly act on his inclinations.
I tend to see the figures in his name as near-absolute representations of the attributes they're associated with, so divinity or a specific mythology aren't really that important (or there should have been a lot more interaction with wonder Woman over the years...), but odds are the comics have taken a different view of this.
The shit-eating grin was more of a Kingdom Come thing while the character was brainwashed IIRC...
I liked how in Convergence they used King Kull - it was interesting and funny how a character that barely managed to use language was still a technological genius - but odds are the genius thing is more likely to be applied to Sivana or Mind, which is fine - I'm just glad this isn't likely to be the Black Adam show with a side dish of Batson...
The Maverick
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I'm there release week if Cena is in. I didn't even know I wanted that.
MisterHero
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John Cena vs. Mr. Mind would be the match of the century
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Movie will be a complete failure for me now if it doesn't have Cena
Galactic Specter
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I don't think Cena's gonna be cast a Shazam, he's too in-demand right now. It will go to the Sasse if I was a betting man.
It's pretty much Ross's interpretation of the character, which imo fits really well with post-DC Captain Marvel. Cap's supreme confidence provides the perfect counter-balance to Billy's insecurities (if they decide to go that route). I really liked that dynamic---Billy Batson was the adult, Captain Marvel was his escape.
Everyone should read this. Shit's tight.
It's pretty much Ross's interpretation of the character, which imo fits really well with post-DC Captain Marvel. Cap's supreme confidence provides the perfect counter-balance to Billy's insecurities (if they decide to go that route). I really liked that dynamic---Billy Batson was the adult, Captain Marvel was his escape.
Everyone should read this. Shit's tight.
Ross depicted him in a much warmer fashion in Justice and The Power of Hope.
Sure, but that has nothing to do with Cap's grin. It obviously makes zero sense for him to keep that silly smile on his face when he's rescuing children
IIRC the exaggerated squint and cocky smile were deliberate choices to separate him from Superman (can't remember if it was an interview or from Rough Justice) and it kinda stuck for every subsequent depiction of him.
It's a great look. That smug face is iconic. Kōhei Horikoshi homage/parody of him is amazing lol.
Cranston.
He's got experience playing a smart villain who's a piece of shit and deluded himself into thinking he cared about his family.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Well yeah. But star power isn't really a thing anymore these days aside from maybe Leo and Tom Cruise and I don't think either of them would want to be anywhere near this. The promise of Cena and Johnson going at it with superpowers would get US audiences excited at least. DC characters have always had a lot more pull in America anyway.
Master Thespian
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I've been asking for Cena since Rock got announced so lesgo. Perfect guy to play a child pretending to be a man, brehs. Plus this way they can actually put on a good match together. If somehow the final showdown between Shazam and Black Adam takes place in Japan they might even get 6 stars.
JonnyDBrit
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Really I just like the idea of stylistically framing the final battle as the greatest wrestling match in the world. It would give it a different feel from a more traditional super power brawl.
Sure, but that has nothing to do with Cap's grin. It obviously makes zero sense for him to keep that silly smile on his face when he's rescuing children
IIRC the exaggerated squint and cocky smile were deliberate choices to separate him from Superman (can't remember if it was an interview or from Rough Justice) and it kinda stuck for every subsequent depiction of him.
It's a great look. That smug face is iconic. Kōhei Horikoshi homage/parody of him is amazing lol.
He can work just fine with a more soothing expression:
I'm yet to watch My Hero Academia, but All Might's smile and shading give me an uneasy feeling about the guy, it never feels quite as right as it's probably supposed to for me.
Because Gal Gadot was such a big major name and that's why Wonder Woman was a success.