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Report: U.S. Conducting Secret Missions Inside Iran

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goodcow

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http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...289_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-IRAN-USA-NEWYORKER-DC.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran to help identify potential nuclear, chemical and missile targets, The New Yorker magazine reported Sunday.

The article, by award-winning reporter Seymour Hersh, said the secret missions have been going on at least since last summer with the goal of identifying target information for three dozen or more suspected sites.

Hersh quotes one government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon as saying, "The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible."

One former high-level intelligence official told The New Yorker, "This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign."

The White House said Iran is a concern and a threat that needs to be taken seriously. But it disputed the report by Hersh, who last year exposed the extent of prisoner abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

"We obviously have a concern about Iran. The whole world has a concern about Iran," Dan Bartlett, a top aide to President Bush, told CNN's "Late Edition."

Of The New Yorker report, he said: "I think it's riddled with inaccuracies, and I don't believe that some of the conclusions he's drawing are based on fact."

Bartlett said the administration "will continue to work through the diplomatic initiatives" to convince Iran -- which Bush once called part of an "axis of evil" -- not to pursue nuclear weapons.

"No president, at any juncture in history, has ever taken military options off the table," Bartlett added. "But what President Bush has shown is that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are underway right now."

COMMANDO TASK FORCE

Bush has warned Iran in recent weeks against meddling in Iraqi elections.

The former intelligence official told Hersh that an American commando task force in South Asia is working closely with a group of Pakistani scientists who had dealt with their Iranian counterparts.

The New Yorker reports that this task force, aided by information from Pakistan, has been penetrating into eastern Iran in a hunt for underground nuclear-weapons installations.

In exchange for this cooperation, the official told Hersh, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has received assurances that his government will not have to turn over Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan's atomic bomb, to face questioning about his role in selling nuclear secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Hersh reported that Bush has already "signed a series of top-secret findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other Special Forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia."

Defining these as military rather than intelligence operations, Hersh reported, will enable the Bush administration to evade legal restrictions imposed on the CIA's covert activities overseas.
 

Drozmight

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One former high-level intelligence official told The New Yorker, "This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign."

O_O whoa.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Someone close the door, there's a bit of a draft in here...

Although it does sound less like a fully fledged campaign and more like strategic short strikes that they may be planning. Although those kind of strikes may simply be the short term measures with a full campaign in the longer term (perhaps in time for the next election to bolster the chances of whichever republican candidate gets Bush's constant approval/praise, along with the bulk of his administration figureheads to lend a sense of reassuring continuity etc).
 

Malleymal

You now belong to FMT.
honestly... if all teh arab nations got together to do somerthing about this and went to North Korea and asked the for support, and even REAL terrorists to back them... this will not be pretty AT ALL....
 
Well I'll tell you this I was in the chow hall when this report was on TV and you could hear a fucking pin drop. Marines had a real "this can not be fucking happening look."
 

Desperado

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One former high-level intelligence official told The New Yorker, "This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign."


Holy fuck.
 

goodcow

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Tommie Hu$tle said:
Well I'll tell you this I was in the chow hall when this report was on TV and you could hear a fucking pin drop. Marines had a real "this can not be fucking happening look."

I thought all media was censored over there...
 

strikeselect

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran to help identify potential nuclear, chemical and missile targets, The New Yorker magazine reported Sunday.

The article, by award-winning reporter Seymour Hersh, said the secret missions have been going on at least since last summer with the goal of identifying target information for three dozen or more suspected sites.


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goodcow said:
I thought all media was censored over there...

Hell no, we get everything you guys get. CNN, Fox, ESPN. Don't let them fool you. If you want you can set up a Direct TV sat in at your room. This is the 21st century war, this isn't your grandpa's war.
 

Teza

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If there does have to be a war with Iran, I would reluctantly support it. It's a price worth paying IMO.
 
You all should read his latest book, "Chain of Command". None of this is surprising, and some findings in the book are downright scary.
 
Teza said:
If there does have to be a war with Iran, I would reluctantly support it. It's a price worth paying IMO.

If we go on another major war, where will they get the troops, cause they barely have enough at the moment...
 

Teza

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Incognito said:
You all should read his latest book, "Chain of Command". None of this is surprising, and some findings in the book are downright scary.
Aren't you a Republican?
 
MrPing1000 said:
I don't understand how the USA and its allies is allowed nukes but Iran isn't.

Simple. It's called I'm in charge and you're not. It also goes by the "Do as I say, not as I do" rule. Might of heard that one from your Dad as he pounded back a few. Same principle.
 
Teza said:
If there does have to be a war with Iran, I would reluctantly support it. It's a price worth paying IMO.

Dude, seriously are you retarded? We can barely supply the troops we have now let alone add more troops and supply them. Also where are we going to get this magical bag of cash to wage endless wars? Someone has to pay for this freedom train and it is falling on the backs of taxpayers so if you want more war someone has to pay for it. Let's see the GOP faithful rally on raising taxes to spend on war.
 

SteveMeister

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goodcow said:
Bush has warned Iran in recent weeks against meddling in Iraqi elections.

AHA! Now we know. If/when something seriously disrupts the election, Bush is going to announce intelligence that proves Iran was behind the disruption, and that along with Iran's nucular program will be all the justification Bush needs for an attack on Iran.

THE PLOT THICKENS!
 
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I swear I made comments about Iran as the Iraq war began. Pop quiz, GAF: What country is neatly nestled between Afghanistan and Iraq?

iran.GIF


Whoa!
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Thaedolus said:
I swear I made comments about Iran as the Iraq war began. Pop quiz, GAF: What country is neatly nestled between Afghanistan and Iraq?

iran.GIF


Whoa!

Yup, would sure look nice and neat on the map..
 
Thaedolus said:
I swear I made comments about Iran as the Iraq war began. Pop quiz, GAF: What country is neatly nestled between Afghanistan and Iraq?

iran.GIF


Whoa!

Hmmm, someone has some nice sea routes to ship out that sweet, sweet, sweet black gold.
 

Teza

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-jinx- said:

Because an American war against Iran (whatever the form - whether massive troop invasion or not) is another decisive step, in my view, towards the annihilation of the American project.

It's an horrendous price to pay ... but in the end it's probably worth it. The benefits - viz. the destruction (or irredeemable corrosion) of American politics, economy, society and culture - are too great.
 

Dilbert

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Teza said:
Because an American war against Iran (whatever the form - whether massive troop invasion or not) is another decisive step, in my view, towards the annihilation of the American project.

It's an horrendous price to pay ... but in the end it's probably worth it. The benefits - viz. the destruction (or irredeemable corrosion) of American politics, economy, society and culture - are too great.
I've read that three times, and I still don't understand what you're saying. What is the "American project?"
 

Teza

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-jinx- said:
I've read that three times, and I still don't understand what you're saying. What is the "American project?"
Replace 'American project' with the words 'everything that the USA in reality stands for'.
 
If there does have to be a war with Iran, I would reluctantly support it. It's a price worth paying IMO.
If your support would be reluctant, then what would have to happen to make you concede that there had to be a war?

The "who's allowed nukes" issue is where I was instantly drawn by this. It has to have been such a destructive, decisive turning point in human history. Scientific progress (as far as I have understood it, as neither a scientist nor a historian, so please put me straight), has always been a process of theft and cross-pollination, incorporating the tacit acceptance of both use and consequence. Never before can possession of an invention have so completely inhibited its development by anybody else. The world gets more unimaginable by the day ...
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
I agree. Could someone who understands tin hat translate for me?

Gigmonger is decidedly anti-american, and made preverbial toasts after every soldier killed in Iraq. I assume the "American project" refers, in his view, to the globalism of America.
 

Teza

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Incognito said:
No, Gigmonger. I'm a Liberal. I'm guessing you playing word games will carry over from OA?
Eh? What are you talking about?

It isn't a 'word game'. Sure, political spectrums are to a certain extent relative. But on the widest scale of things, you're hardly 'liberal', or 'Liberal'.
 
Teza said:
Eh? What are you talking about?

It isn't a 'word game'. Sure, political spectrums are to a certain extent relative. But on the widest scale of things, you're hardly 'liberal', or 'Liberal'.

I think you'd be surprised.
 

Teza

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Incognito said:
Gigmonger is decidedly anti-american, and made preverbial toasts after every soldier killed in Iraq. I assume the "American project" refers, in his view, to the globalism of America.
You're wrong on every count.

In any case, the Lonestar that I remember was a deeply racist, flag-waving Republican who cheered at the death of innocents.

Congrats on ruining the discussion.
 

AssMan

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"I agree. Could someone who understands tin hat translate for me?"


It means the CIA are now going to use Solid Snake to fight off terrorism from launching nukes.
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20050118/pl_nm/iran_usa_dc

Bush, the Pentagon, and the White House felt the need to respond:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) said on Monday he would not rule out military action against Iran if that country was not more forthcoming about its suspected nuclear weapons program.



"I hope we can solve it diplomatically, but I will never take any option off the table," Bush said in an interview with NBC News when asked if he would rule out the potential for military action against Iran "if it continues to stonewall the international community about the existence of its nuclear weapons program."

Iran denies it has been trying to make nuclear weapons and says its nuclear program is geared solely to producing electricity.

Bush's comments followed Pentagon (news - web sites) criticism on Monday of a published report that it was mounting reconnaissance missions inside Iran to identify potential nuclear and other targets.

"The Iranian regime's apparent nuclear ambitions and its demonstrated support for terrorist organizations is a global challenge that deserves much more serious treatment than Seymour Hersh provides in the New Yorker article titled "The Coming Wars," the Pentagon's chief spokesman, Lawrence DiRita, said in a statement.

Hersh's article, published on Sunday, was "so riddled with errors of fundamental fact that the credibility of his entire piece is destroyed," DiRita said.

Hersh reported Bush had signed a series of top-secret findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other Special Forces military units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia.

DiRita did not comment on that assertion.

He said Hersh's sources fed him "rumor, innuendo, and assertions about meetings that never happened, programs that do not exist and statements by officials that were never made."

Asked whether U.S. military forces had been conducting reconnaissance missions in Iran, Defense Department spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said, "We don't discuss missions, capabilities or activities of Special Operations forces."
 

teiresias

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I believe Teza, in reference so America, is claiming the old option of tearing something down in order to save it by building it anew.
 
so that's why they cant find osama, they are diverting special forces to iran. it's like vietnam all over.... incursions into other countries and what not... lordy....

everyone is aware of course that troops cant be extendeed anymore after 2006. wonder where we are gonnna get the men and money to finance this occupation? we'd need 500,000 men to invade and occupy iran if it ever came to that.
 
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