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Republicans hate the DACA but want what it actually does

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Republicans Are Happy Trump Ended DACA. They're Less Sure About Deporting DREAMers

Multiple polls suggest that after Trump announced he was rescinding DACA, Republicans were happy with the decision. However, polling also indicates that Republicans aren't certain what should happen to the program's beneficiaries now.

First, to zoom out: Republicans overall tend to be less hard-line when it comes to DACA recipients than they do on other immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Thirty-seven percent recently told Morning Consult that immigrants in the U.S. illegally should be deported. But fewer — 24 percent — said DREAMers should be deported. (DACA beneficiaries are often called DREAMers after a long-proposed-but-never-passed Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act.)

And while multiple polls show Republicans opposed to DACA, there is more division on what should happen to DREAMers once the program expires. According to an early September poll from YouGov and HuffPost, 83 percent of Republicans thought Trump "made the right decision" on ending DACA. But as for whether Congress should pass a law to allow DREAMers to stay in the country, opinions were mixed: 42 percent said no, 31 percent said yes and 26 percent were unsure.

Likewise, there was that poll mentioned above,from Politico and Morning Consult, that found that 57 percent of Republicans thought ending DACA was the "right thing" — much higher than the nation as a whole.
 

EMT0

Banned
You'd have to ask them what they think of the dream act to get an honest picture. Republicans have a hate boner for Obama's executive orders, and DACA itself is the biggest and most notable of them.
 

rjinaz

Member
It has to do with illegal immigration. END IT NOW! I don't need to think about it. I'm too busy raging over those bad hombres.

They have themselves convinced that getting rid of all illegal immigrants will make America better somehow but in reality it would make it so much worse. Good luck getting Scott or Steve picking those crops in the middle of summer for $8 an hour. Prices will go up. And even if the government all of a sudden had more money as a result of less drain on resources, a president like Trump would just put that money towards more military spending it's not going back into American pockets.

But illegal immigration is a good target for people because they can target people that are different and not make it about race, make it about their legal status and that makes people feel good about it. But in reality they just need to hate somebody. Republican leaders know this.
 

cameron

Member
But as for whether Congress should pass a law to allow DREAMers to stay in the country, opinions were mixed: 42 percent said no, 31 percent said yes and 26 percent were unsure.
Still rather high on the deplorable scale.
 

WaterAstro

Member
It's all pretty logical.

Republicans hate DACA because it is "unconstitutional".
They like Dreamers because they contribute a lot to America's economy.
They want to help Dreamers immigrate, but want to stop more illegal immigrants from crossing over to take advantage of future immigration policies.
 
Fewer than 24% said that they should be deported. At this point, who knows what Republicans want. They are some strange thinking people. On one hand, they use God and religious ideologies to justify a cause. But then those same ideologies aren't present under certain situations. I don't get them.

Leave the Dreamers alone man. They have been very productive members of society.
 
It's all pretty logical.

Republicans hate DACA because it is "unconstitutional".
They like Dreamers because they contribute a lot to America's economy.
They want to help Dreamers immigrate, but want to stop more illegal immigrants from crossing over to take advantage of future immigration policies.
Reasoning kind of falls apart when you consider how they treat the Muslim ban.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
SHOCKER: The Republican propaganda machine is great for getting elected, not so great for instituting policy and running the country. They've painted themselves into a corner with their base.
 

Derwind

Member
Republican votes hate the fact that a black democrat built sensible policies that they could easily get behind if it was a white republican building those same policies.
 
It's all pretty logical.

Republicans hate DACA because it is "unconstitutional".
They like Dreamers because they contribute a lot to America's economy.
They want to help Dreamers immigrate, but want to stop more illegal immigrants from crossing over to take advantage of future immigration policies.
They hate it because Obama helped make it happen, but even some Republicans realize that kicking out apple pie eating, fluent english speaking children and young adults is super messed up. Almost all of the "moderate" Republicans wouldn't bat an eye if DACA had been enshrined by a Republican president instead.
 

Ogodei

Member
Stuff like this makes me think more of the right falls into the stupid rather than evil category. They want the simple answers pitched to them by Fox, et al, but have too much heart to pull the trigger when the opportunity is presented to them.
 
This is a different level of stupid.

This is like English people being convinced to scrap the NHS because they want universal healthcare.

Like, that's crazy levels of stupid. Like, reeeeeeeeally fucking stupid.

If all you watch is Fox News that's what happens.

Uninformed voters is the bane of democracy.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Republicans are the poster children for cognitive dissonance.


I mean you're right, but a significant proportion of this phenomenon isn't dissonance, just pure ignorance. If you explain the things to them, they will sometimes go "oh," and then hate it anyway, at which point it's cognitive dissonance, but a lot of the time they have absolutely no clue what anybody is talking about, or have a faulty understanding of something like Obamacare. So they don't think Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing at all. They don't understand much at all beyond their side is against a proper noun of some kind.
 
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