We do have people rooting for German Neonazis rioting and using the Hitler salute because of one immigrant murderer, stating stuff like "take your country back" or people going on and on about the genetic inferiority of black people in terms of intelligence, so the original claim of "whether you feel better surrounding yourself with feminazis or actual nazis" has some validity to it. Of course it is always difficult to find the right line to draw and even though the line in terms of racism is drawn later than I can appreciate around here at the moment, I do think it is better to be too lenient than to be too strict in terms of moderation.
Please show someone rooting for Neo-Nazis rioting and for using the Hitler salute in a non-comedic context. Please show it. Otherwise you're in very deep water, attacking members of the site itself.
Nobody_Important
did a good job in that particular thread already.
Very lazy of you Yoshi. Nobody_important presumes way too much in that post and assumes too much on the part of the posters. First of all, there's no apparent direct support of the violence in the posts he quotes, merely an acknowledgment of the protest. One of the posts clearly is talking about speech even.
Sorry, when someone says stuff like "Get your country back!", all interpretation that does not point to right extremism is rather curious. That's NPD (NSDAP successor party) jargon, no conservative party in Germany would say such a thing and even in the faaaaaar right party AfD this would probably be controversial.
Sorry, but if you're talking about "Take your country back!" then it's a sign of schisms in society, in where someone feels that their country is being taken from them somehow. Sure, you might point to right extremist using it, but that's because it's a way to appeal to an existing sentiment and a consequence of demographic changes, cultural clashes and a sense of national identity. It's also an anti-establishment sentiment, bordering between a mix of worry and xenophobia and as well as alienation within society itself. So you're thinking about it wrong, right extremists use it because it appeals to a simple and understandable sentiment. That it correlates with right extremist groups and is used as a marketing term by them, that I of course agree with. "Take your country back"-like sentiments are far older and some of them have been used by left-wing groups as well.
However, even though the party does not exist in name anymore, there are a lot of people who adhere to similar or the same line of thought. Which is why the term Nazi has been extended in meaning to also mean people who are not formally part of the NSDAP, but who share the same ideology (though of course adapted to modern days). So people like Tommy Robinson, the nazi protesters in eastern Germany recently, Lutz Bachmann (head of Pegida) or Bernd Höcke (prominent right extremist from the German far-right AfD). And yes, there are sympathisers of Nazis of the non-formal kind in this forum. I just hope that moderation is not aware of what kind of movement was supported recently in the thread about the violent Nazi protesters from Germany recently.
Please tell me how Tommy Robinson is a nazi. I looked at his wikipedia article and it really isn't portraying him as such. Looked up Lutz Bachmann, no connection to nazism there either. Björn Höcke, no nazism the either. At best I would imagine the word you're looking for is xenophobic or anti-Islam or anti-multiculturalism/monoculturalist.
I think you confuse what the ideology of NSDAP was. Anti-immigration sentiments, concerns of national culture, divisions in society, etc. Most of it's too general and it even overlaps with minority concerns, which also have had a forefront to secure the "nation". You see this in sentiments from the small Sami minority in Norway, where concerns for the nation of the Sami and protecting what's Sami was expressed as they were being Norwegianized. You also have the cultural worry on the left in regards to capitalist and America, that has also been a sign of cultural worry. There's a big danger trying to connect general ideas that overlap across the political spectrum, with nazism.
The burden is currently on you to point out someone as a clear nazi and pointing out to a sympathizer here on the board. If you're extending the definition of nazi to mean "anyone I want to perceive as one", then you're looking pretty ridiculous.
The tendency to use "nazi" as a way to distract from discussion is a disconcerting one. Point to someone clearly supporting neo-nazis if you want, then I could understand, but if you need more and more footnotes and asterix and a long line of weak correlation based argument, then you're looking pretty wack. One could easily be ridiculous and point to the various sympathizers of black supremacists, violent revolutionaries, communists, segregationists, racists on ResetEra, but unless you show a direct example that's not refutable, I'm not going to argue that because "% of ResetEra users might sympathize with maybe (x)ist/ies, that means it's not a place someone should be at because of that". That's just ridiculous.
EDIT: To add, there's a clear non-acceptance of neo-nazis, holocaust deniers and white supremacists here, as evidenced by the ban lists.
EviLore
may ask you why you want to gender-bend Link, though:
daTRUballin
or @Jackstin (and many more!) went there. And I miss them around here very much. On ResetEra, I could have good discussions about Rare platformers or Sonic games (despite the usual trolling for both), for instance, which are probably near impossible here now. I did not go to Resetera for ideological reasons, even though, considering they are typically regarded as far left, I should be very compatible ideologically (left wing of the German greens or right wing of the German lefts, I'm probably in the 15% left most part of German population).
Yoshi
- re the left - don't forget that there are different kinds of left. I'm pretty left-wing, an old-fashioned socialist, economically. I believe in helping the poor as they're the guys most vulnerable in the world today, the people who need most support. I would argue that our SJW friends are far from left wing, especially given most of them have a pretty serious disdain for the working classes (after all they're just the thickos who voted for brexit - burn them at the stake). They are not left wing, they just use the left as human shields in the same way they use the LBGTQ community.
