Resident Evil 4 Remake with Separate ways
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MagusMajul
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there is a mod on pc that changes ada's voice and appearance and gets rid of ugly yellow paint
Madflavor
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Ada is a mixed bag for me in RE4R. Visually she's the hottest she's been, but her voice acting was pretty bad.
I don't agree that the game lacks the charm of the OG. People who say that are referring to the radio conversations between Leon and the villains. While I agree Salazar and Saddler are not as good in the Remake, the trade off is that Ashley and Luis have way more personality. Ashley finally isn't annoying, and Luis has way more depth to him, and comes off like a true bro. Mike in the OG was fairly bland for the limited time he was in the game, but in the Remake he sounds like some redneck from the bayo, and it was perfect.
I also like Krauser more in the Remake. He the OG he came off like a typical 2000s stoic edgelord, but new Krauser is an unhinged beast who just wants to be unleashed. A typical case of when you stare into the abyss too long, the abyss stares back. He just has way more going on with him.
I don't agree that the game lacks the charm of the OG. People who say that are referring to the radio conversations between Leon and the villains. While I agree Salazar and Saddler are not as good in the Remake, the trade off is that Ashley and Luis have way more personality. Ashley finally isn't annoying, and Luis has way more depth to him, and comes off like a true bro. Mike in the OG was fairly bland for the limited time he was in the game, but in the Remake he sounds like some redneck from the bayo, and it was perfect.
I also like Krauser more in the Remake. He the OG he came off like a typical 2000s stoic edgelord, but new Krauser is an unhinged beast who just wants to be unleashed. A typical case of when you stare into the abyss too long, the abyss stares back. He just has way more going on with him.
NeverYouMind
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I was tempted to shoot a hole through the "Sancho"-riddled brain of that horse's ass before Krauser granted me relief. What a fucking donkey. In contrast, the mysterious charmer in the original was worth mourning. That character could have been the lead of another entry in the series.
demigod
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So i finally got around to playing this game even though i bought it day 1. Holyshit why did they use that voice actor. She sounds like she just came fresh off the boat. Just fucking terrible. Even my 12 year old son agrees something is wrong with her voice.
grvg
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Do you have any money to upgrade your weapons? If so, put as much into firepower as you can. Blow your crafting mats to max up on ammo. Toss a flash grenade when the plagas comes out of his back. If you haven't cleared out the lake area, perhaps go back and see if there is anything else you can find.
If you've done all of these and still can't beat him, it may be prudent to revert to a previous save.
What difficulty are you on?
cinnamonandgravy
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OG wins
but remake is great nevertheless
hope they re-remake it for ps7
but remake is great nevertheless
hope they re-remake it for ps7
Memati187
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I'm still waiting for a proper re3 remake lol.
They fucked that one up, also 2 with merging the scenarios. The og games 1-3 are superior, well maybe except re1 remake.
LavitzSlambert
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Reminds me, I need to play Separate Ways. Has it still not been on sale?
Dr.Morris79
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metareferential
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The new best version is on Quest 3.
Real shooting instead of IR. And you're actually there (which is kinda terrifying too).
RE4 is definitely one of the best game ever, in every iteration. I've played it on GC, on pc, emulated, in VR and the remake.
And I can't fucking wait for a new remake down the line.
Also: bring the fucking VR remake on pc Capcom.
RE4 remake is everything a remake should be, and that's how you build an adventure game that's fun and engaging.
No one in the industry managed to beat it in 20 years. Name a game that can compare.
NeverYouMind
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RE2 Remake is arguably better than the remake of 4. In the genre of TPS horror Dead Space 2, Evil Within 2, and Days Gone were better games than even the original.
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Neff
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Is it fuck. RE2 remake isn't even as good as the original RE2.
NeverYouMind
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RE2R is more respectful to the characterizations and overall flow of the original. It also does not have major omissions like RE4R. Only fuck up is adaptive enemy sponginess and that is resolved with mods.
P.S. I prefer RE3R to both but on its own merits instead of judging it as a remake.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
The originals IMO are leagues better. The only good remake they did was RE1. RER2 is probably the closest they got to old RE formula but RE2 is still better then it.
Here is a honest comparison between RE4 and the Remake.
David B
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The whole reason I like the original 2005 Resident Evil 4 way more is the knife. In the original the knife works always. In the remake the knife stop working after 3 attacks and you have to pay to get it fixed. That is the biggest bullcrap factor to me. I also hate having to search some areas and go where, where is it,, where, I need it, but where is this part, dang it come on. Original is just way easier and better with an always working knife!
DavidGzz
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That's why PC is the way to play. Mods take care of those pesky issues.
Negotiator101
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No, the original at the time was phenomenal, this remake is excellent but nothing more. You have to look at them when each one released, the original changed the RE formula forever and was groundbreaking in so many ways. A direct comparison now is not really fair as one is over 20 years old.
metareferential
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I get your point, I wasn't talking about a specific genre.
RE4 is waaaay a better game than anything you mentioned. I could understand choosing RE2R over it. But...
Dead Space 2 and Days Gone. Come on man.
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Hawk The Slayer
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That's because RE2 OG is still the best RE game of all times based on what they were able to do with it's limited tech back then. But Resident Evil 2 Remake and Resident Evil 3 Remake had the potential to be far better than every other Resident Evil game.
Had RE2 Remake just made both of their scenarios more different with no repeat bosses and more exclusive locations like Leon exploring the lower labs with a second Mr.X phase that has two claws while keeping the RE2R version of Super Tyrant as the 2nd last phase instead of the last phase. While Claire fights a giant plant boss as her exclusive battle. William could also have a extra phase since the OG one actually have 6 phases instead of 5. Or a super G MUtant a.k.a the giant mass that was growing underneath the sewers so lots of ways they could have made it where Claire and Leon's campaign would be more different without any repeat bosses.
Moving to RE3 Remake, had they just gave us more city section content to explore and experience with more humanoud Nemesis encounters both scipted and unscripted including his shirtless tentacle form before going dog form .And a revamped and Improved Clock Tower and Park plus a redesigned improved Gravedigger boss than RE3 Remake could have easily been the best.
RE2 Remake and RE3 Remake both got the potential to be the best RE game by far easily had they went all out for it.
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Neff
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They were never going to top REmake, as reimaginings go, it's practically flawless.
NeverYouMind
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Better mechanics, more engaging exploration, better pacing, better supporting characters, and better written plot.
You can't polish a turd.
It is very flawed. It plays more sluggish than the original, ditches B-horror hilarity for blandness, and has a bunch of cumbersome mechanics and encounters sprinkled on top.
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Hawk The Slayer
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I'll admit even though these days I don't find playing RE1 Remake as fun as RE2R, RE3R, RE4R, and even OG RE1,RE2, and RE3. I'll consider it a flawless game too and could totally understand if someone say it's the best RE game. Amazed to see how much they were able to do for in just one gen apart from the PS1 -< gamecube.
But it absolutely could be topped had RE2 Remake and RE3 Remake went all out and did what I mentioned. It won't just be newcomers liking it a lot more but a lot of OGs would have been in love with it and 10/10 that game had they done everything correct and nice.
That chance has now passed of course but I'm willing to give RE1 ReRemake and RECV Remake a good chance at topping it if they're going to go all out on them. And maybe even RE9 too.
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CitizenKratos
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I feel the same. RE4 R is amazing. But in VR there's something GOAT about Villiage. I wouldn't be surprised if my favourite moments were nothing special in 2D and with no "gun" in your hands.
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Hawk The Slayer
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I'm also one of the few that like the OG RE1 more than the remake version, the charm and characters are funny in a awesome B movie kind of way and I love that it's not even meant to be funny but just turned out that way due to the acting which actually makes it even better. It was definitely a lot more memorable.
I'll be happy even if they are able to make the Gravedigger a cool chase scene like what they did with the giant Alligator in RE2R where instead of fighting it like in RE2 OG, we ran from it. More Nemesis encounter and a boss fight with shirtless big musclar tentacle using Nemesis a.k.a it's phase 2 would have been nice in the RE3 Remake. It could still turn into it's dog form but later in the game. RE3 Remake's potential was even better than RE2 Remake cause I feel like if both games went all out, RE3 Remake would have been the better one.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I like the surreal atmosphere, snarky Leon, top class B rated movie cheese dialogue and RE4OG Leon has better hair.
Neff
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RE2 remake was never going to go toe to toe with REmake so long as they used the over-the-shoulder cam. It's a good game for the most part, even with the cut content and fluffed B scenarios, but it loses too much of the RPD's personality and presence as a result of ditching the original perspective. I could overlook the change if they made more demands from the player regarding aiming, but apart from the few crappy bosses and the plant guys there's really not much to it.
Also I love Village and 100% would put it in my top ten.
Hawk The Slayer
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I like both the Fixed Camera OG RE as well as the OTS style of RE2R,RE3,and RE4R so I don't see fixed camera being better personally. And I felt they did a amazing job with the RE2R,RE3R, and RE4R OTS style,. way better compared to the older OTS style of RE4, RE5, and RE6. They could have added more colors and have it more vibrant like the og RE2 RPD too I guess.
There's a few things they could have done like expand/include the Marshal Yard and lower section/blast furance since they were in the RE2R's artwork. So the Marshal Yard would be a exclusive location for Claire while the lower NEST Lab would be a exclusive location for Leon.. The giant mass in the sewers could birth a super G Mutant thats bigger and faster than the regular G Mutant maybe one that's similar to the OG one especially the Darkside Chronicles G mutant. Mr.X's one armed claw Super Tyrant is the 1st phase where Leon will defeat and send him down to the Blast furance and his molten twin claw would return with a vengeance. Plant 43's core would be a exclusive boss and it'll be a redesigned Plant monster which was the ultimate summon for Alex Wesker in Resident Evil Resistance.
Claire gets
The Marshal Yard facility
Plant 42's core
Unique evolved G Mutant
Leon gets
The lower NEST LAB
Mr.X's Super Tyrant form with a 2nd phase
William G 4.5 form
Village was better than RE7 at least so I got good hopes that RE9 would be even better as I felt Capcom is getting dones right and doing them better both with character design and gameplay hence the improvement from RE7 to Village.
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NeverYouMind
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I think the remake of 3 is better in gameplay mechanics and pacing. Also, maybe it is just me but doing a loop around the station before getting to the next objective when X is coming for me is annoying. In the original he was mostly used to keep the player on their toes between objectives instead of chasing them away.
Okay i went back and got the bolt action. It helped me defeat ogre.
Nintendo's Witch
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It's better than the original.