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Resident Evil (DS)

Wyzdom said:
I read the first post once and too fast. Nevermind. I suppose you ALWAYS read perfectly, LORD Zeo.

No, but I expect people to call me an idiot if I make that kind of mistake anyway. :P

Welcome to the Internet.
 
Zeo said:
No, but I expect people to call me an idiot if I make that kind of mistake anyway. :P

Welcome to the Internet.


Well it's not because we are on the internet that we have to be assholes without manners.
If you think it's right to be an ass because you're safe behind your monitor than wake up because THIS is the dumb way. Internet reflects your true self more than you think.
 
Zeo don't be an ass and stop picking on everyone the guy made a mistake nobody is perfect for fuck's sake.

about RE on DS.... meh a PSP resident evil would be much better, and I like the DS more than the PSP.
 
Wyzdom said:
Well it's not because we are on the internet that we have to be assholes without manners.
If you think it's right to be an ass because you're safe behind your monitor than wake up because THIS is the dumb way. Internet reflects your true self more than you think.

Or maybe you should like.. chill out a bit!
 
Lazy8s said:
Now that the proliferation of mobile sized versions of popular, older games is starting, id should get Quake Mobile running on the DS:

quake003_1120242292.jpg

http://wireless.ign.com/articles/630/630833p1.html

yes yes yes!

And it makes more sense than Doom DS imo.
 
koam said:
I wonder if we'll see REzero, the N64 version, on the DS

Maybe, you never know. Capcom would need the touch screen for item management, map function and controlling the "inactive" partner character. I think it would work, and considering how far Capcom got with the N64 version, it wouldn't be a bad idea to finish it for DS.
 
Error2k4 said:
about RE on DS.... meh a PSP resident evil would be much better, and I like the DS more than the PSP.

By that logic, all games should have appeared on the GC or Xbox instead of the PS2, as they'd "be better."
 
Wario64 said:
and is this the first game to have a remake with another remake? 2 remakes????

Off the top of my head, immediately upon reading this:

Lunar: The Silver Star
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar Legend

Lazy8s said:
Now that the proliferation of mobile sized versions of popular, older games is starting, id should get Quake Mobile running on the DS:

quake003_1120242292.jpg

http://wireless.ign.com/articles/630/630833p1.html

I would shad in my pants.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
There is a party going on...and the PSP isnt invited.
Seriously, I guess all the third parties must think Nintendo has more to offer in the handheld arena because they basically created it. It's a pity, because I was really excited for the PSP's capabilities. But as it turns out, the PSP doesn't have a very convenient mechanism for doing multimedia and the games just aren't coming. The homebrew/emulation scene is the best thing the PSP seems to have going for it. :(
 
terrene said:
Seriously, I guess all the third parties must think Nintendo has more to offer in the handheld arena because they basically created it. It's a pity, because I was really excited for the PSP's capabilities. But as it turns out, the PSP doesn't have a very convenient mechanism for doing multimedia and the games just aren't coming. The homebrew/emulation scene is the best thing the PSP seems to have going for it. :(

I would have to think that it has more to do with the development costs.
 
I'd rather want Resident Evil 1.5

We all know RE2 was the greatest traditional RE (go KAMIYA!!)

If you didn't know, there was a RE2 version that made it quite far before it was scrapped into the RE2 we all know.
 
DavidDayton said:
By that logic, all games should have appeared on the GC or Xbox instead of the PS2, as they'd "be better."

you misunderstood me a DS RE with the DS shitty 3d graphics would look like ass compare to a RE on PSP that's fact, the RE series is all about the atmosphere and you can't convey a good atmosphere on shit graphics. I like the DS now that there are good games coming for it but the DS is not the best suited for games like RE.
 
Heh, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Capcom stuned the world with a beautiful DS rendition of RE, with the addition of multi player goodness. Here's to hopping!
 
Error2k4 said:
you misunderstood me a DS RE with the DS shitty 3d graphics would look like ass compare to a RE on PSP that's fact, the RE series is all about the atmosphere and you can't convey a good atmosphere on shit graphics. I like the DS now that there are good games coming for it but the DS is not the best suited for games like RE.

That's rediculous. The first three games in the series came out on hardware not a million miles away capability-wise from Nintendo DS. A PSP version would look better on a technical level, but that's no reason to not make certain kinds of games for Nintendo DS... the only thing dictating atmosphere and fun will be the talent of the developers at hand.

Just as PS2s userbase gets PS2 games and exclusives, so will Nintendo's DS in no small part due to it being a cheaper machine, a head start audience all over the world, development costs and their previous dominance of the market. When are people going to come to terms with this?
 
Flakster99 said:
Heh, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Capcom stuned the world with a beautiful DS rendition of RE, with the addition of multi player goodness. Here's to hopping!

Multiplayer in RE?
 
Error2k4 said:
you misunderstood me a DS RE with the DS shitty 3d graphics would look like ass compare to a RE on PSP that's fact, the RE series is all about the atmosphere and you can't convey a good atmosphere on shit graphics. I like the DS now that there are good games coming for it but the DS is not the best suited for games like RE.

All PS2 games would look a hell of a lot better on the GameCube yet they don't even get ported..

Games go to the best selling system - it's the way life goes..

Deal with it.
 
Mrbob said:
DS has been out longer.
PSP development may be dead because of piracy. We are not talking about rather complex GBA flashcards here. PSP games just need to be copy pasted on a memory stick. PSP audience is used to it, it's even easier to do than to put a video on the MS. Can Sony survive the rise of the ultimate UMD loader?
 
I got a lot of flak by stating the obvious a PSP RE would be hell lot better than a DS one sorry fanboys but that's the cold hard truth, I'm not against a DS RE because fuck more games for the DS is better. When I said good atmosphere needs good graphics you started throwing me shit like "the first 3 entries of the series where on a shitty hardware" yeah but you forget that at that time those RE where some of the best graphics in the business.

_PsiFire_ said:
All PS2 games would look a hell of a lot better on the GameCube yet they don't even get ported..

Games go to the best selling system - it's the way life goes..

Deal with it.

a totally moot point the graphical difference between a GC game and a PS2 one is not on the same level as a PSP game and DS one
 
Sholmes said:
Clock Tower's graphics aren't shit, it's in 2D and is pretty good 2D for the most part.
Yeah, I misunderstood him; I thought he meant that one couldn’t make a good horror atmosphere due to the limitation of DS - but he was talking about that you couldn’t do it with DS 3D capabilities.
 
marc^o^ said:
PSP development may be dead because of piracy. We are not talking about rather complex GBA flashcards here. PSP games just need to be copy pasted on a memory stick. PSP audience is used to it, it's even easier to do than to put a video on the MS. Can Sony survive the rise of the ultimate UMD loader?


Looking at PSP software sales versus DS software sales, I would say yes. PSP will come into its own in the next year or so.
 
Error2k4 said:
I got a lot of flak by stating the obvious a PSP RE would be hell lot better than a DS one sorry fanboys but that's the cold hard truth, I'm not against a DS RE because fuck more games for the DS is better. When I said good atmosphere needs good graphics you started throwing me shit like "the first 3 entries of the series where on a shitty hardware" yeah but you forget that at that time those RE where some of the best graphics in the business.



a totally moot point the graphical difference between a GC game and a PS2 one is not on the same level as a PSP game and DS one

I agree with you. The PSP is a much better system for a console-like RE title. Sans the loading.

I wonder how close the DS version is going to compare to a traditional console RE?
 
The point is, they're talking about a remake of the first game. Which was made on quite dissimilar hardware. The relativism you keep employing when comparing between DS < PSP, and PS2 <> GC <> XB is in my view completely irrelevant. Are you saying people should only make certain games if they can definately make it with the "best graphics in the business"? People should only attempt to make atmospheric games on the most powerful hardware? People should only make atmospheric games when doing so with great graphics ie. on the PSP? What is it exactly that you're saying?

Several million people own DS', it's backwards compatible with one of the most successful systems ever, it's cheaper to buy than PSP -- making all manner of games for it is viable. We know nothing about the additions either.. it could be one of the best games on DS. They could be employing things impossible on PSP.

Are you in fact simply saying - you want an RE game for PSP too then? I mean that's fair enough...
 
Mrbob said:
Looking at PSP software sales versus DS software sales, I would say yes. PSP will come into its own in the next year or so.
Best selling DS game: over 2 million worldwide
Best selling PSP game: under 500k worldwide
 
jarrod said:
Best selling DS game: over 2 million worldwide
Best selling PSP game: under 500k worldwide
You know, that's not a good comparisson because the PSP isn't out in Europe.

Regardless, the DS owns the PSP. Soon... you (Sony fans) shall witness your dreams crumble...
 
marc^o^ said:
PSP development may be dead because of piracy. We are not talking about rather complex GBA flashcards here. PSP games just need to be copy pasted on a memory stick. PSP audience is used to it, it's even easier to do than to put a video on the MS. Can Sony survive the rise of the ultimate UMD loader?


I wouldn't say dead. Just for some cost prohibative. It's expensive and for the most part handheld games just don't sell as well as console games. How many games really break a million or even 500k? The DS is cost effective, you can make a profit on average sales. If your game suddenly sparks a huge buy up or appeals to the mass market, well you make a killing. You are printing money.

Now I don't know the development cost of say Nintendogs, it's probably more expensive than your typical DS game, but still cheap in comparison to a PSP game. Brain Training probably isn't even close to a million in development costs, there is just no way, but the profit off that thing is unholy.

I would guess something like RE DS would be of a higher budget, but you are aiming at a platform a little more powerful than the N64 and the cost in developing for it just radically come down.

Look, I thought the DS was a stupid idea too. I thought it would get steamrolled by the PSP. Well at this point it isn't happening. Maybe it's the simple interface, remember Double Dragon in the arcade, it has 3 buttons:punch, kick, and jump. You knew what to do the second you dropped your quarter in. The DS kind of offers the same thing, something simple. I have been in EB's where people pick up controllers for demo kiosks and the first thing they do is look down at the controller to figure out what the buttons do, as if the words kick, punch, and jump were stamped on the dual shock.

Maybe the simplicity of the DS is the appeal to consumers, while the cost is the appeal to developers.
 
jarrod said:
Best selling DS game: over 2 million worldwide
Best selling PSP game: under 500k worldwide

Oh, I see how it is. Gonna pimp a remake of what is called the best game of all time? :D

PSP - 3rd party games sell
DS - 3rd party games don't sell nearly as well on a bigger userbase :)

Back to the game, it'll be interesting to see how this plays.
 
Ruzbeh said:
You know, that's not a good comparisson because the PSP isn't out in Europe.

Well its Sony's fault for fucking over Europeans since they REALLY needed that intial shipment in America which took 2 months to sell out. Can't have shortages in America but you can have Europeans wait almost a year to get the PSP at expensive prices. :lol
 
I'm excited by the prospect of RE4 style play in RE...


I'm crushed by the ugly...gah, I would have been interested on console.
 
i dont have any high hopes on a 3d re on ds,they need to work miracles to make the game look decent with a re4 perspective
 
radioheadrule83 said:
The point is, they're talking about a remake of the first game. Which was made on quite dissimilar hardware. The relativism you keep employing when comparing between DS < PSP, and PS2 <> GC <> XB is in my view completely irrelevant.

I didn't bring the PS2 and GC to this thread I was just answering _PsiFire_ argument.

Are you saying people should only make certain games if they can definately make it with the "best graphics in the business"? People should only attempt to make atmospheric games on the most powerful hardware? People should only make atmospheric games when doing so with great graphics ie. on the PSP? What is it exactly that you're saying?

c'mon man you play RE4 and I'm sure you were blown away by its graphics would you like a remake of RE(a game that has already been remade with incredible results in the GC)on a shitty hardware just because it offers new ways of control, if I want a remake of RE it has to be a remake that blows the GC remake out of the water for me to buy it again and having shitty graphics with just a new way of controlling the character ain't gonna do it.

Several million people own DS', it's backwards compatible with one of the most successful systems ever, it's cheaper to buy than PSP -- making all manner of games for it is viable. We know nothing about the additions either.. it could be one of the best games on DS. They could be employing things impossible on PSP.

apart from the stylus control the rest can be done on the PSP and better.
 
Why does everyone always expect sub-PSX level graphics on the DS? Save for the lack of anti-aliasing, the DS is easily more powerful than the N64 in terms of what it can produce in graphics.
 
Sure I'd love to play a remake of the same quality or higher as we've gotten with RE4, but at the same time - I'd like to see that kind of effort on new games, and focused on the home consoles where that kind of production will benefit most. My interest is piqued here. I'm personally really excited for a potential DS version.
 
Mrbob said:
PSP - 3rd party games sell
DS - 3rd party games don't sell nearly as well on a bigger userbase :)
Actually, DS has the only 3rd party game past 300k in any region.

For multiplatform titles, the DS release has always sold better than the PSP release so far too.
 
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