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[Zeo]

Zeo has a vagina :lol

.. Yes ..?

And is that an insult of some sort?

We all know RE2 was the greatest traditional RE

If you didn't know, there was a RE2 version that made it quite far before it was scrapped into the RE2 we all know.

I would LOVE to see RE1.5 finally released (but as an unlockable where the gameplay/graphics are exactly the same, not on DS). I read it was 75%-80% done. I'd also like to play the original RE4 too..

But yeah, I'm gonna have to give best traditional RE to Code: Veronica. RE2 is a close second.

I got a lot of flak by stating the obvious a PSP RE would be hell lot better than a DS one sorry fanboys but that's the cold hard truth, I'm not against a DS RE because fuck more games for the DS is better.

PSP RE would have better graphics.

As far as gameplay, sorry, but it doesn't matter what system it is on. The upcoming DS and PSP REs could both own. Just because the PSP is like so totally wicked prettier means shit.

But as far as graphics go, they could be awesome. Just because no one has done 3D graphics on DS amazingly yet doesn't mean they can't be done very well. Look at early PSone games (hi Bubsy 3D) compared to late PSone games. DS 3D graphics WILL get better. There will be a developer that does it right and this could (I hope) be the game that does it.

 

[Vieo]

offtopic: I didn't know Katamari was coming to DS.

ontopic: I hope this rumor is true. It would be interesting to see if Capcom comes up with something better than just using one screen for map/inventory and the other for the game. Although, seeing how going to your inventory in previous RE games pauses everything, it would make things slightly harder as you would have to eat herbs to heal up while in the middle of a fight.

Only thing that worries me is if they would remove the voice acting and FMV. Remember that creepy FMV sequence after you come in from the garden house and head back to the mansion? Having the first Hunter show up without it would be kinda anti-dramatic.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Yeah I love that bit! Shit scary

I have faith in good ol' Capcom. Looking forward to this from them too:

 

[Error]

PSP RE would have better graphics.

As far as gameplay, sorry, but it doesn't matter what system it is on. The upcoming DS and PSP REs could both own. Just because the PSP is like so totally wicked prettier means shit.

But as far as graphics go, they could be awesome. Just because no one has done 3D graphics on DS amazingly yet doesn't mean they can't be done very well. Look at early PSone games (hi Bubsy 3D) compared to late PSone games. DS 3D graphics WILL get better. There will be a developer that does it right and this could (I hope) be the game that does it.

you forget that the best looking DS game would look like shit compare to an average PSP game, then again you're an editor of DSrevolution.com so I know you have to defend the DS because that's your job but c'mon do no let that cloud your judgement Zeo, as you said gameplay for both could own but that's up to the developer, apart from that a PSP version would just completely destroy a DS one in every technical aspect, not just graphics but sound also and if you played a RE you know that sound is very important in the series also. Anyway I'm prepared to eat crow if the game turns out to be good I'll wait and see

 

[Zeo]

you forget that the best looking DS game would look like shit compare to an average PSP game, then again you're an editor of DSrevolution.com so I know you have to defend the DS because that's your job but c'mon do no let that cloud your judgement Zeo, as you said gameplay for both could own but that's up to the developer, apart from that a PSP version would just completely destroy a DS one in every technical aspect, not just graphics but sound also and if you played a RE you know that sound is very important in the series also. Anyway I'm prepared to eat crow if the game turns out to be good I'll wait and see

Yes, you're right.

I write for a DS website so that means I HAVE to stick up for DS games. Never mind the fact that I'm trying to get it switched to multiplatform. Douchebag.

And I'm sorry, but the best looking DS game would not look like shit compared to an average PSP game. It would look great for DS and that's all I care about. Anyone who tries to compare DS graphics to PSP graphics is an idiot and really pulling at straws.

In closing, do you know what a period is? Perhaps you should use it so your posts aren't like visual nails on a chalkboard to read.

 

[radioheadrule83]

I'd just agree to disagree, no need to jab at one another.

 

[Deku]

Theory is not same as practice. RE on DS can look very good with the right mix of pre-rendered and polygon elements.

 

[Lemurnator]

Now that the proliferation of mobile sized versions of popular, older games is starting, id should get Quake Mobile running on the DS:

http://wireless.ign.com/articles/630/630833p1.html

I WANT THIS.

I WANT DUKE NUKEM 3D ON DS.

I want Perfect Dark on DS...

 

[AssMan]

ZOMG GAFFERS CHANGED THE SUBJECT AM CRYING!

 

[Wario64]

i want Halo on DS

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Yes, you're right.

I write for a DS website so that means I HAVE to stick up for DS games. Never mind the fact that I'm trying to get it switched to multiplatform. Douchebag.

yea, I support you. you could never ever tell that you write for a nintendo fansite.

 

[Error]

Yes, you're right.

I write for a DS website so that means I HAVE to stick up for DS games. Never mind the fact that I'm trying to get it switched to multiplatform. Douchebag.

And I'm sorry, but the best looking DS game would not look like shit compared to an average PSP game. It would look great for DS and that's all I care about. Anyone who tries to compare DS graphics to PSP graphics is an idiot and really pulling at straws.

I didn't insult you or anything and you have to resort to calling me names to make you argument appear convincing, and you said that anyone that tries to compare DS graphics to PSP graphics is an idiot, Zeo wake up from that dream people are going to compare the two is inevitable sure you don't want to compare them because the PSP blows the DS out of the water on the techinical aspect. The DS can't rely on graphics to sell a game like the PSP can and a gameplay gimmick ain't gonna do it to a game like RE unless is something that blows everyone out of the water and like I said I'm prepared to eat crow if the game turns out to be good.

In closing, do you know what a period is? Perhaps you should use it so your posts aren't like visual nails on a chalkboard to read.

Just because I disagree with your opinion you are insulting my way of writing dude this is messege board people are going to disagree with you get used to it and learn to respect opinions and besides english is not my first language excuse me if I don't write it perfectly.

 

[Kon Tiki]

they're gonna have to make the mansion bigger or something...RE4 camera + RE1???

and is this the first game to have a remake with another remake? 2 remakes????

3 remakes. GBC RE never forget!

 

[Cold-Steel]

I'd personally like to see RE: Outbreak on the DS with the RE4 control/camera system.

Outbreak would work great with DS Wi-Fi.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Sorta OT, Nintendo patented a graphic excelerator chip, sorta like SuperFX 2 (3?). I wonder if any NDS games will use it.

p.s. sorry for spelling, no contacts.

 

[cvxfreak]

I still want my RE2 and RE3 ports on PSP/DS.

 

[C- Warrior]

I thought only games less than 1GB have a majorily (revenue crushing) risk of PSP/UMD piracy.

I'm pretty sure RE1 would be over...nope, never mind. It'll be less than 1GB of course wth am I thinking.

But still, in general I'd assume many more of the bigger games are 1GB+.

 

[shuri]

I want an original re! Or what about Re4 Side story? RE4 Mercenaries MULTIPLAYER O_O

 

[AniHawk]

Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but...

Wouldn't RE2 + RE4's control scheme work much better? You have an entire city of zombies. A bit more exciting than a house of them.

Maybe for next-gen.

 

[Kon Tiki]

I thought only games less than 1GB have a majorily (revenue crushing) risk of PSP/UMD piracy.

I'm pretty sure RE1 would be over...nope, never mind. It'll be less than 1GB of course wth am I thinking.

But still, in general I'd assume many more of the bigger games are 1GB+.

I do not think one psp game is over 1Gb yet..

 

[C- Warrior]

I still want my RE2 and RE3 ports on PSP/DS.

why...



It's not like RE games are pick and play friendly. Especially the traditional RE's. That's to say, you can't enjoy Resident Evil by picking it up for 10 minutes and then turning it off. What you gonna do, load up from a typewriter point and make it to the area where you turned it off last but you then have to turn it off again so you never make progress?

 

[C- Warrior]

Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but...

Wouldn't RE2 + RE4's control scheme work much better? You have an entire city of zombies. A bit more exciting than a house of them.

Maybe for next-gen.

Resident Evil 2 is fucking amazing.

I'd kill for that to be in RE4's graphic/gameplay engine.

fuckin kill!!!

>.>

 

[cvxfreak]

I honestly wish Capcom would just port the game, clean up the graphics with re-made polygon models, high-res background, add in the 180 turn and perhaps story elements from the REmake.

N64 Zero and 1.5 would be even better though.

 

[C- Warrior]

I honestly wish Capcom would just port the game, clean up the graphics with re-made polygon models, high-res background, add in the 180 turn and perhaps story elements from the REmake.

N64 Zero and 1.5 would be even better though.

Yeah, but I don't see how that would change the gameplay...even marginally.

And it's more or less an utter waste of money and only encourages the milking from Capcom.

At least have Capcom milk in interesting ways (Devil May Kart) :lol and not just DIRECT ports.

 

[C- Warrior]

I honestly wish Capcom would just port the game, clean up the graphics with re-made polygon models, high-res background

Wouldn't that be an issue because the game is pre-rendered...especially with trying to make it widescreen for PSP.

Unless they just stretch the background image...=/

 

[cvxfreak]

Wouldn't that be an issue because the game is pre-rendered...especially with trying to make it widescreen for PSP.

Unless they just stretch the background image...=/

They'd redo the backgrounds like they did for RE on Saturn, RE2 on N64/DC and RE3 on DC.

 

[Unison]

I thought only games less than 1GB have a majorily (revenue crushing) risk of PSP/UMD piracy.

I'm pretty sure RE1 would be over...nope, never mind. It'll be less than 1GB of course wth am I thinking.

But still, in general I'd assume many more of the bigger games are 1GB+.

Dreamcast is the precedent here... It used a proprietary GD-ROM which held about 1 GB, yet games were pirated on CD-ROM, thanks to hackers that removed stuff like music & cut scenes. I am sure the same will happen with PSP.

Also, 2GB memory sticks exist and are dropping in price all the time...

 

[Chittagong]

I don't like this news. I enjoy a lot more the games that are not possible on home consoles. A watered down RE port with a touch screen gimmick pales in comparison to Another Code.

 

[TheDiave]

Why does everyone always expect sub-PSX level graphics on the DS? Save for the lack of anti-aliasing, the DS is easily more powerful than the N64 in terms of what it can produce in graphics.

I'm as optimistic as the next DS owner, but lets face the facts; Mario 64 DS has been the only N64 game to come over with a graphical upgrade. Everything else has pretty much been PS quality or lower, unfortunately.

 

[Zeo]

I don't like this news. I enjoy a lot more the games that are not possible on home consoles. A watered down RE port with a touch screen gimmick pales in comparison to Another Code.

Um, a "watered down RE port"?

Sorry, but no, that's not what this is. Unless you consider completely changing the gameplay a "watered down port".

 

[Error]

I don't like this news. I enjoy a lot more the games that are not possible on home consoles. A watered down RE port with a touch screen gimmick pales in comparison to Another Code.

I thought I was the only one, glad to know I'm not alone

 

[Zeo]

I'm as optimistic as the next DS owner, but lets face the facts; Mario 64 DS has been the only N64 game to come over with a graphical upgrade. Everything else has pretty much been PS quality or lower, unfortunately.

And er, how many N64 ports have there been?

 

[Ponn]

Um, a "watered down RE port"?

Sorry, but no, that's not what this is. Unless you consider completely changing the gameplay a "watered down port".

And how do you know anymore then him?

 

[Chittagong]

Um, a "watered down RE port"?

Sorry, but no, that's not what this is. Unless you consider completely changing the gameplay a "watered down port".

Well, they would really have to reinvent the franchise in a way that is optimal to the DS, and create an appropriate story to go with that.

I'm not saying it won't happen - since Metroid Prime reinvented the Metroid franchise and RE4 reinvented the RE franchise.

Remake of RE Remake with a new controller scheme does not sound initially like a complete reinvention.

The best option, in my opinion, would be to go for a sidestory approach, a completely new game built with DS in mind. Still, the question remains - can you do scary games on a small screen?

 

[NintendosBooger]

Chalk up another bad move by Capcom. I don't think a game like RE can traslate well in terms of sales to the handheld arena, be it PSP or DS. This is not a stop-and-play franchise; there are a lot of small, inconspicuous elements and objectives that you have to remember for lengths at a time, which all acts as an anti-thesis to the idea of handheld gaming.

Why don't they just release a fighting game, like Street Fighter, to the DS instead?

 

[HCgamer]

Why choose to do the first one again? A remake of 2 would be better.

I have been playing through part 2 on N64 it is still a very fun game to play but why not make a original adventure for DS? Part 5. I already own the REmake on Gamecube I cannot see myself buying it again.

 

[Sapiens]

Chalk up another bad move by Capcom. I don't think a game like RE can traslate well in terms of sales to the handheld arena, be it PSP or DS. This is not a stop-and-play franchise; there are a lot of small, inconspicuous elements and objectives that you have to remember for lengths at a time, which all acts as an anti-thesis to the idea of handheld gaming.

Why don't they just release a fighting game, like Street Fighter, to the DS instead?

I think this is why making it more like RE4 is a good thing. The Chapter by chapter gameplay would translate more well than the original's pacing.

Play a chapter, put it down.

 

[Defensor]

How would an idea of a RE4 camera perspective with prerendered backgrounds work?

 

[Wario64]

by eliminating pre-rendered backgrounds

 

[GaimeGuy]

I'm as optimistic as the next DS owner, but lets face the facts; Mario 64 DS has been the only N64 game to come over with a graphical upgrade. Everything else has pretty much been PS quality or lower, unfortunately.

That doesn't mean the system isn't capable of more. Anyone who's seen the specs can tell you that the DS is definitely more capable in the graphics department than either the Saturn, the PS, or the N64.

 

[Deku]

That doesn't mean the system isn't capable of more. Anyone who's seen the specs can tell you that the DS is definitely more capable in the graphics department than either the Saturn, the PS, or the N64.

Minus the texture filtering. But yes, the DS can probably push more polygons than the N64 if is is running on the DS screen and because it uses larger cartridges, the games will probably look, sound and generally have better interface as well.

 

[Spike]

I fail to see the problem. RE4 is the only RE game that I liked enough to list as one of my favourite games ever. Now, they're redoing the first game to be like RE4. Where's the problem?

Oh, I know, the graphics. Well, we all know that the DS isn't the PSP, but you know what? The masses don't seem to care. DS is selling like crazy and that's all that matters. That being said though, RE is one of those franchises that should be on all the platforms, so I'm sure that sometime in the future, the PSP will get its own RE game as well.

 

[Wario64]

i don't care about the graphics. i want to know how they're gonna mix RE4 gameplay with the RE mansion

 

[cvxfreak]

why...



It's not like RE games are pick and play friendly. Especially the traditional RE's. That's to say, you can't enjoy Resident Evil by picking it up for 10 minutes and then turning it off. What you gonna do, load up from a typewriter point and make it to the area where you turned it off last but you then have to turn it off again so you never make progress?

Well, for me, I can get a whole lot done in ten minutes. I agree an original RE doesn't fly on DS or PSP, but a port certainly would.

 

[tetsuoxb]

I fail to see the problem. RE4 is the only RE game that I liked enough to list as one of my favourite games ever. Now, they're redoing the first game to be like RE4. Where's the problem?

Oh, I know, the graphics. Well, we all know that the DS isn't the PSP, but you know what? The masses don't seem to care. DS is selling like crazy and that's all that matters. That being said though, RE is one of those franchises that should be on all the platforms, so I'm sure that sometime in the future, the PSP will get its own RE game as well.

It sounds like most people seem wary of how the controls and perspective will carry over.

 

[Barrage]

THANK GOD it's on DS.

No loading, no Nubs.....Ahhhh.

Honestly, though? somehow I don't believe this is real.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

I thought only games less than 1GB have a majorily (revenue crushing) risk of PSP/UMD piracy.

I'm pretty sure RE1 would be over...nope, never mind. It'll be less than 1GB of course wth am I thinking.

But still, in general I'd assume many more of the bigger games are 1GB+.

there are 2 GB mem sticks out and I'd be willing to bet they will only get bigger and cheaper as the years go on

sony's got a problem on their hands

almost as bad as the problem Sega had on theirs with the Dreamcast

 

[ProgramFighter]

This could prove to be a very interesting game if it is true, but I'll wait to see some media and get more info before I get too excited. Hopefully we'll see something soon.

 

[Sanjuro]

The ammount of anger in this thread bringing great news is absurd.

People still cannot get the idea into their heads that

GAMEPLAY > GRAPHICS

Sure the PSP has better graphics, but the quality of games that have just come out and that are coming out for the DS is astonishing and the touch screen IS giving me a REVOLUTIONARY way of playing WarioWare, Kirby and Meteos. My faith is now fully into the DS and I believe more developers use the touch screen in unique ways like these games.

People need to understand too is that playing rehashes of games and EXTREME sports titles isnt going to make a system. Unique experiences lead to even more games of that type and new genres Katamari Damacy, Pikmin, Pshyconauts, etc.

Not UMDs of Hitch and games of Tony Hawk and NBA Street! FUCK hope they port Mace Griffon Bounty Hunter to it!

 

[tetsuoxb]

there are 2 GB mem sticks out and I'd be willing to bet they will only get bigger and cheaper as the years go on

sony's got a problem on their hands

almost as bad as the problem Sega had on theirs with the Dreamcast

Not quite as bad as you would think... You are talking about at most 2 million units that have working bootloaders for them. This number will ebb and flow according to the tit for tat between crackers and sony. It will be a similar arms race to the PS2/Xbox piracy situation. Not nearly as bad as Dreamcast.