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Reuters: Senator Warren to endorse Clinton, sources say
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whyamihere
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Very glad that Elizabeth Forma is making it official. Hopefully this is the start of Healing The Divide.
Thaedolus
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It's still real to me dammit!
If sexists weren't going to vote for Clinton because she's a woman, they still wouldn't vote for her regardless of the gender of her running mate.
Not saying that it'll be Warren, but I don't think gender (or race) will be a factor in the decision.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
It's not about cartoon cavemen who are worried about women bleeding out of their whatever, it's more subtle than that. I agree with Stinkles that it's very unlikely she'd choose a female running mate not because of "delivering votes" directly, but just so the campaign can contest the battle of ideas with less of the media baggage of an all-woman ticket.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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are you kidding me? that would seal everything.
Earthstrike
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In what sense? What strategic advantage does an all female ticket have, that a male-female ticket does not? (Where the female is the one running for president)
PhoncipleBone
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old manatee
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Elizabeth Warren as vice president is what it would take to get me to vote for Clinton.
Bel Marduk
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Why?
You could argue against Clinton picking Warren for VP because Massachusetts has a Republican governor but I don't think there's any reason to add a man to the ticket.
I hope she does pick Warren anyway, that would change me from reluctantly to enthusiastically supporting Clinton.
she already did by not endorsing sanders back when they had the massachusetts primary.
RustyNails
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Um within a week or two is not "soon". I want the GE train to begin already!
titiklabingapat
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She was already unpure when she didn't endorse Bernie in MA.
The ge train started weeks ago.
I'll never understand why anyone would hinge their support on something as inconsequential as a VP. It's truly loonie bin territory
And when she chose to prop up the big banks instead of breaking them up. Truly in the pockets of wall street.
legacyzero
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If not that, then team up with Bernie once he gets over his loss, get his supporters on board, kick Trumps ass, rip his shirt off his unconscious body, and spray paint nWo on his naked back.
Thequietone
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LyleLanley
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Warren or Bernie as the VP pick makes no sense.
It's so hard to tell if these are genuine or twitter trolls being twitter trolls lol.
Bernie is going to be hanging out up in the rafters watching things from afar.
Bernie ain't Sting, Bernie is Ric Flair.
Succinct Verbosity
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Good. Time for them to unite against the real evil.
RustyNails
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Sadly this will be the response in places like r/s4p. She will be turned into Judas. There is zero placating the ardent holdouts. The ones who were gonna vote for Hillary would have done so without this overture, albeit with slightlt less enthusiasm. Hillary wants more votes and a VP that appeals to not just the fringe s4p people but general populace as well.
But Ric Flair actually won.
Not on Final Nitro.
Bernie is the heel who's always in the way, but people still like.
they already bad mouth her on s4p. they even use trump lines and make fun of her for saying she is indian.
User 463088
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Do yourself a favor, and don't go onto Sen. Warren's Facebook page.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Elizabeth Warren as vice president is what it would take to get me to vote for Clinton.
If you respect Warren to that degree... what does her endorsement mean to you, then?
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Bernie going to say that she is corrupt?
LudicrousSpeed
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Why would you want Elizabeth Warren to be pulled from a position of actual power in the Senate in order to serve in a mostly ceremonial role as VP?
I really like Elizabeth Warren, and I hate the idea of her being VP. There are much better things she could be doing with her time.
RPGCrazied
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Yes, do it. Her, Hillary, Obama, Sanders(eventually?) going after Trump will be glorious to watch. He is going to get destroyed.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
She just lost all her cool points right
It's his one trick, pony.
Bubblicious
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A Clinton Warren ticket would be my dream scenario tbh.
Warren has been phenomenal in the Senate and with her attacks on Trump she has shown she is a good attack dog for the Democrats. She would also appeal to the more reluctant Bernie supporters/progressives to vote for Clinton. Her being a woman and making the ticket even more historic would just be icing on the cake.
Realistically though I don't think she will be the VP
. Based on PoliGAF (who are always on the ball with political predictions and have never steered me wrong) it looks likely that Clinton will choose someone like Tim Kaine or Tom Perez as VP. There's also a risk that Warren's Senate seat might go to a Republican appointed by the MA Governor.
Warren has been phenomenal in the Senate and with her attacks on Trump she has shown she is a good attack dog for the Democrats. She would also appeal to the more reluctant Bernie supporters/progressives to vote for Clinton. Her being a woman and making the ticket even more historic would just be icing on the cake.
Realistically though I don't think she will be the VP
. Based on PoliGAF (who are always on the ball with political predictions and have never steered me wrong) it looks likely that Clinton will choose someone like Tim Kaine or Tom Perez as VP. There's also a risk that Warren's Senate seat might go to a Republican appointed by the MA Governor.Noticing that the majority of them are young and male. Sad!
lightskintwin
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I do think an all woman ticket would fire up progressives, and women in general to come out and make history.
A VP is often chosen to address a Presidential candidate's perceived weaknesses. For Hillary, here's a very recent word association study that was done with voters:
Those are some pretty strong negatives.. but if there's one Senator with any national name recognition that could help address them (aside from Bernie himself), it would probably be Elizabeth Warren. Her name is associated with fighting special interests; it is her brand, her essence.
We can also note that there is no ideological objection to Hillary among those adjectives. Voters are very comfortable with where she is ideologically, so it doesn't seem likely that a liberal VP pick is going to move that number in a negative direction very much.
There's also the chance that a two-woman ticket nudges the gender gap a bit wider. Moving it from, say, +15 to +18 or might seem small, but it'd be a nationwide effect - the tide would rise everywhere because women are distributed everywhere. And since the electorate is usually >52% female, even a slight rise in the margin would be significant; it could be the difference between a Senate seat or a state in the red or blue column.
And finally, the other role of a VP: attack dog. And I think we know that Warren is quiiiiiite capable of getting under Trump's skin. She's demonstrated this over and over again, and his responses have been, if anything, self-destructive.
There are other picks (I'm quite torn between Warren & Kaine, myself). But Warren isn't as bad as one might think.
Those are some pretty strong negatives.. but if there's one Senator with any national name recognition that could help address them (aside from Bernie himself), it would probably be Elizabeth Warren. Her name is associated with fighting special interests; it is her brand, her essence.
We can also note that there is no ideological objection to Hillary among those adjectives. Voters are very comfortable with where she is ideologically, so it doesn't seem likely that a liberal VP pick is going to move that number in a negative direction very much.
There's also the chance that a two-woman ticket nudges the gender gap a bit wider. Moving it from, say, +15 to +18 or might seem small, but it'd be a nationwide effect - the tide would rise everywhere because women are distributed everywhere. And since the electorate is usually >52% female, even a slight rise in the margin would be significant; it could be the difference between a Senate seat or a state in the red or blue column.
And finally, the other role of a VP: attack dog. And I think we know that Warren is quiiiiiite capable of getting under Trump's skin. She's demonstrated this over and over again, and his responses have been, if anything, self-destructive.
There are other picks (I'm quite torn between Warren & Kaine, myself). But Warren isn't as bad as one might think.
old manatee
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I am capable of respecting Warren's endorsement and also choosing to throw my vote away on a third party.
LyleLanley
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Would having two women on the ticket really make much of a difference to women as opposed to just Hillary?
I strongly suspect it doesn't matter who Clinton picks, the well has already been poisoned by Sanders. See: Elizabeth Warren's facebook page right now.A Clinton Warren ticket would be my dream scenario tbh.
Warren has been phenomenal in the Senate and with her attacks on Trump she has shown she is a good attack dog for the Democrats. She would also appeal to the more reluctant Bernie supporters/progressives to vote for Clinton. Her being a woman and making the ticket even more historic would just be icing on the cake.
Realistically though I don't think she will be the VP
Thankfully, there's likely more conservative defectors this cycle than BernieBros.
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