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Reuters: Senator Warren to endorse Clinton, sources say
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googleplex
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Bernie is more like the Brooklyn Brawler. Talks a huge game but comes up short.
Longest rides, oldest lines
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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I just want to highlight how interesting this is, not to pick on you per se. We're looking at a potential Donald Trump Presidency, which should horrify sane people to the extent that any rational mind would do what they could to stop that, which in our cases is of course to simply vote for his opponent. Now, Elisabeth Warren carries such weight that just having her as the VP would make you vote for Clinton. Warren would basically do nothing as VP, a total waste of a progressive leader. Warren as VP would hurt progressivism. Warren obviously understands the gravity of the situation, and of course wants everyone to get out and vote for Clinton.
Simply put, a Clinton loss is a devastating loss for progressives. Republicans would control all 3 branches. The conservative agenda would get implemented in it's entirety.
I suppose I just can't relate. I have no idea how taking a progressive leader out of the Senate and wasting her as a VP could be a dealbreaker for a progressive, on top of not even valuing her endorsement at least to the extent that you could appreciate the gravity of the situation.
Discotheque
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I like her a lot. Far more than Hillary too (and sanders no doubt). This would be a great endorsement. And a big play to pull in a lot of bernies supporters too.
talisayNon
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lets get this straight Bernie is a broke ass Elizabeth Warren not the other way around.
Liz supporters begrudgingly got on the Bernie wagon after bae wouldn't run.
Liz supporters begrudgingly got on the Bernie wagon after bae wouldn't run.
More like a broke ass Barney Frank, which would explain why Bernie hates him so much.
QuantumZebra
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dis be troof
Done: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...mMAN/story.html?p1=BGHeader_SmartBar_Breaking
“I’m supporting Hillary Clinton because she’s a fighter, a fighter with guts,” Warren said.
She praised Sanders saying that he’s run an “incredible campaign” — and said that she didn’t want to “get into” speculation about whether she might serve as Clinton’s vice president.
“I’m supporting Hillary Clinton because she’s a fighter, a fighter with guts,” Warren said.
She praised Sanders saying that he’s run an “incredible campaign” — and said that she didn’t want to “get into” speculation about whether she might serve as Clinton’s vice president.
And she's incredibly enthusiastic about getting in the race. Ugh, yes. It's so ironic considering everyone has been talking about the Democratic Party fracturing when they've spent the entire night alone uniting.
Leona Lewis
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Yeah, Bernie's run began on the back of the Warren4Pres efforts.
All their infrastructure and support were basically gifted to Sanders and propelled him immediately once Warren removed herself from contention.
I'm so happy to see the party finally start going out guns blazing against Trump. Obama's roasts alone will be legendary.
Schattenjäger
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I don't understand these endorsements after she clinched the nomination ..
Between warren and Obama... She already has the nomination...
The endorsement is worth much more while the election is still happening
Do they just not want to look like they are endorsing the losing side?
Between warren and Obama... She already has the nomination...
The endorsement is worth much more while the election is still happening
Do they just not want to look like they are endorsing the losing side?
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Gabriel Knight
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Schattenjäger;206272587 said:
People like warren and Obama were respecting the primary process by letting it happen without their influence.
Schattenjäger;206272587 said:
It's a strong show of unity rather than a traditional endorsement - it sends a message that says 'we're in this together, fired up and ready to take on Trump'.
At least the Democrats have that - prominent Republicans are steering well clear of Trump and his campaign, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few defections over the next few months - if not into the Democratic party, at least to Hillary.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
I get it .. But are they really endorsements to endorse a particular candidate or just to unify and bring in Sanders supporters
Hypothetically, if Sanders clinched the nomination, would Obama and Warren still endorse Clinton? I don't think they would ..
So is it really an endorsement or just a gesture to help unify the party?
GoldenEye 007
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Both. Look at the GOP side. Trump won ages ago and people that first enforces him are already starting to walk back on it.Schattenjäger;206273495 said:
I think generally if a nominee won and isn't a complete fuckwit, they'll get the standard endorsements. But of course if they go off the deep end, it is possible to lose that support.
shadowsdarknes
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The comments sections on the sites reporting this are nasty.
These Bernie or Busters are like talking to a brick wall.
If Liz Warren, Bernie, Obama and other progressives are on board with getting work done with a Clinton administration, what more do they want?
Voting for Trump or not voting to spite the "Morally corrupt DNC" is basically saying you think the Republican legislative agenda is just fine.
A Trump presidency with a Democratic Congress means very little still gets done.
A Trump presidency with a Republican majority is a disaster.
A Clinton presidency with progressives having a senate majority is the most ideal.
These Bernie or Busters are like talking to a brick wall.
If Liz Warren, Bernie, Obama and other progressives are on board with getting work done with a Clinton administration, what more do they want?
Voting for Trump or not voting to spite the "Morally corrupt DNC" is basically saying you think the Republican legislative agenda is just fine.
A Trump presidency with a Democratic Congress means very little still gets done.
A Trump presidency with a Republican majority is a disaster.
A Clinton presidency with progressives having a senate majority is the most ideal.
They're not worth the effort to convert - they'll never be happy with anything but Bernie as President and Hillary in jail. All of the rest of Bernie's supporters are either on the Hillary train or will be soon enough; in fact, the President's endorsement thread in /r/s4p was actually filled with a number of voices of reason and unity (but still a bunch of salt from the Bernie or Busters).
PhoncipleBone
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That article was so savage and hilarious. The Onion is usually on point with their political stuff.
Of course, I would not be shocked if some people online accused The Onion of still being biased against Bernie since the owner is a Hillary supporter. I know there were accusations when he bought the website.
Vigilant Walrus
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JesseEwiak
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That's already happened on the S4P subreddit and Twitter, because of course it has.
Cindi Mayweather
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The backlash against Bernie is so nuts. I've never seen a politician go from hero to zero so fast. What an election.
The accompanying OT thread was certainly the point that took me to "okay end this primary now".
Anyway... glad Warren's on board, though there was never any real doubt. Now to see if she becomes the running mate... I kind of want it to happen.
And you won't again. Rupert missed one, it won't happen next time
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newdayrocks
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Bernie is The Shining Stars, combined.
brianmcdoogle
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wSJ and NYT over the wire are saying it is now official.
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