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[The Faceless Master]

The record industry, fresh from its legal victories against peer-to-peer networks, has now turned its sights on another method of obtaining music: homemade CDs.

Mitch Bainwol, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America told the Associated Press before appearing at the National Association of Recording Merchandisers conference that "CD burning is a problem that is really undermining sales."

Previously, the RIAA had maintained that illicit downloading was the biggest problem affecting sales of legitimate music. However, the group has apparently had a change of heart after a recent NPD Group study showed that "burned CDs" accounted for 29 percent of music obtained by listeners in 2004.

Downloads from file-sharing networks accounted for 16 percent of all obtained music. Legal CDs accounted for about half, with online music store sales, such as Apple's iTunes, accounting for four percent.

Source: Betanews

 

[ManDudeChild]

It would be great if instead of trying to screw everyone over, if the RIAA would THINK and ask WHY people burn CDs. A solution (well imo), would be to include the option to customize CDs in the stores. Who wants to pay $20 for one or two songs, and a bunch of crap filler?

 

[RevenantKioku]

It would be great if instead of trying to screw everyone over, if the RIAA would THINK and ask WHY people burn CDs. A solution (well imo), would be to include the option to customize CDs in the stores. Who wants to pay $20 for one or two songs, and a bunch of crap filler?

Now, now. Lawsuits against 12 year olds and their grandmothers are so much easier. You don't even need to know what a "music" is!

 

[ManDudeChild]

You don't even need to know what a "music" is!

Well that explains why the RIAA does it.

 

[ManaByte]

What about people who burn custom CDs from songs legally downloaded from iTunes?

 

[RevenantKioku]

What about people who burn custom CDs from songs legally downloaded from iTunes?

I'm sure a new law could be passed. Its been what, 3, 4 years? The digital age has to be over by now.

 

[VictimOfGrief]

I'm waiting for online cd renting like movies, where you get sent the CD in the mail to listen to and then send it back. Meanwhile, in a batcave somewhere remote, someone burns 1,000,000 copies of the cd's they get sent through the mail, rip off the company formly called "CDNOW" and call their company "CDRIGHTNOW" and sell the copied CD's for 1/8 of the price of the formers rental fee.

Truly the RIAA is screwed... or will go bankrupt, who knows. :lol

 

[ronito]

You gotta admire the RIAA, they're the only company in the world that would ever think to sue it's customers en-masse.

edit: As a musician this kind of behavior makes me more than a little ill.

 

[acidviper]

Downloads from file-sharing networks accounted for 16 percent of all obtained music. Legal CDs accounted for about half, with online music store sales, such as Apple's iTunes, accounting for four percent.

These #'s are bullshit. How are they supposed to get these facts. Are they based phone polls?
16 + 50 + 4 = 70% Where is the other 30%

I say its more like 75% illegal, 20% legal CD's, 5% legal download

 

[Ecrofirt]

Fuck the RIAA.

 

[maynerd]

These #'s are bullshit. How are they supposed to get these facts. Are they based phone polls?
16 + 50 + 4 = 70% Where is the other 30%

I say its more like 75% illegal, 20% legal CD's, 5% legal download

Those numbers are BS. There is NO way 75% of music out there is illegal.

 

[Fuzzy]

What about people who burn custom CDs from songs legally downloaded from iTunes?

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

 

[etiolate]

Pretty soon the RIAA is going to accidently sue the RIAA.

 

[whytemyke]

Well if everyone remembers the case for VHS tapeplayers, the opinion of the court held that as long as the media had alternate viable means, then it was permissable. I highly, highly doubt they're going to accomplish much here, other than piss off even more people. And it seems to me that if you want to stop people from stealing your music, you wouldn't want to do things to get the people who produce the tools the pirates use to empathize with them.

I've burned more CD's for archiving and storage in the past year than I have for piracy. Actually, I don't think I've even burned any music for piracy in quite a long time. While there's people out there who refuse to purchase a CD, I don't think the courts are going to rule in favor of the CD burner producers for their actions.

Could be wrong here.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

These #'s are bullshit. How are they supposed to get these facts. Are they based phone polls?
16 + 50 + 4 = 70% Where is the other 30%

I say its more like 75% illegal, 20% legal CD's, 5% legal download

a recent NPD Group study showed that "burned CDs" accounted for 29 percent of music obtained by listeners in 2004.

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[Nerevar]

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

that's the way it used to be with audiotapes, actually. You paid a slight tax on all blank tapes sold.

The reason it's not that way with blank CDs is because discs can be used for many other things besides music. Somehow I doubt this will stop them from trying to collect money on it though ...

 

[The Faceless Master]

i dont even burn my music on cd anymore, i archive then on blank dvdr and use WhereIsIt? to organize them

 

[michael000]

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

Why stop there, if they're going to twist facts and numbers they may as well have a tax added to every CD and DVD burner sold as well. If anyone can twist facts enough to get something as ridiculous as that passed here it's the RIAA. Alot of people do use CD-R's for legit data though so they'd have to lay it on pretty thick. If this goes anywhere at all i see them forcing CD-R makers to create a new type of disc so that music can only be burnt onto those particular discs and then have a some kind of tax slapped on those discs. Just as stupid imo but a definite possible scenario if they push hard enough.

 

[pnjtony]

I hate it when they play those numbers games. Just because a large percentage obtain music on CD-Rs in no way means that if they didn't have the CD-Rs that they would have legally purchased all of that music. This is just an excuse for shitty music

 

[belgurdo]

i dont even burn my music on cd anymore, i archive then on blank dvdr and use WhereIsIt? to organize them

Yeah, I don't use CDs/DVDs for burning music either; I burn cartoons and porn to mine. :lol

News reports like this make me wanna break the law just out of spite, however

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Wait a second, since when do associations have CEO?



:?

 

[Particle Physicist]

..

 

[Doth Togo]

All the bitching that people do about the RIAA is just lolz to them. It's all free publicity for them...the lawsuits against 12 year olds, Grandma Jones, the casual pirate... They don't care as they're the paid heavy to deflect the hate off the music industry. It's what trade associations do.

 

[HokieJoe]

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

Technically, I think that's already been done. When you buy a blank CD with "music" label on it, a royalty is attached AFAIK.

 

[HokieJoe]

And to quote Terrence and Phillip, the RIAA members can "suck my balls".

 

[kevm3]

Why doesn't the RIAA focus on the real problem affecting music sales -- SHITTY ASS MUSIC?

 

[The Faceless Master]

All the bitching that people do about the RIAA is just lolz to them. It's all free publicity for them...the lawsuits against 12 year olds, Grandma Jones, the casual pirate... They don't care as they're the paid heavy to deflect the hate off the music industry. It's what trade associations do.

but doesnt everyone already think that the RIAA = The Music Industry?

 

[Suikoguy]

I think sam goody stores will be having a "Burn and Go" Setup
You puchase the disc (like 2.99) and its 99 cents per additional song. (The numbers when I heard them were 6 months ago, things may have changed).

I think you get a case art you customize and everything.
2.99 + 12 x .99 = 15 + tax, not bad for a disc with 12 songs you really want

 

[Fatghost]

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

I don't buy music anymore on principle because of this. I pay the music industry through this tax so I just burn everything.

 

[MIMIC]

Pretty soon the RIAA is going to accidently sue the RIAA.

:lol

 

[Shinobi]

Simple, the RIAA will do what their Canadian counterpart has done up here, get a tariff slapped on ALL blank media sold and collect a part of it.

Problem is the Canadian recording association is now trying to have their cake and eat it, determined to make music downloading illegal while still collecting their tariffs. They'd make Al Capone proud, the corrupt ass cocksuckers. Fuck all of 'em.

 

[Outcast2004]

How long before the RIAA crashes under it's own weight? Trying to sue everyone and their mothers just so they can deflect the reality that the Recording industry as a whole has changed and the purchasing CDs is by and large obsolete.

If I buy a cd the first thing I do it rip it to my PC and then archive it on my hard drive and put it on my MP3 player. Maybe then I'll take it to a CD exchange place and trade it in.

Besides the artists make squat from the record comapnies anyway. Bunch of thieves the lot of them. The artists have to tour lik crazy to make a decent living if their cd doesn't sell millions upon millions.

 

[shuri]

I think it's awesome how at Music Worlds in Montreal, they sell spindles of 50 and 100 CDRS right next to the counter when you pay your 20$ cds.

Awesome thinking!!

 

[DonasaurusRex]

These guys are a bit behind the times what are they going to do when flash memory becomes all the rage and storage media like cds/dvds whatever becomes passe? Its obvious that soon even having to carry around recordable media will be considered bothersome and most people when the price point is there will migrate to players with internal storage and expansion ports for more storage capacity. What are they gonna do then demand random scans of your media player device?

 

[themadcowtipper]

the only solution is tothis is go back to records..you heard it her first all new music will only come out on records...

 

[Zaptruder]

Just as an aside... if RIAA were really intrested in supporting and protecting artists, they should probably start with recording companies forcing them to give artists a larger slice of the pie.

But of course RIAA isn't some sort of artists union, despite the name. Nooo, it's an organization designed to protect the bottom line of corporations.