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"But unlike abortion today, in most states even the slaveholder did not have the unlimited right to kill his slave." ((It Takes a Family, 241)

"The elementary error of relativism becomes clear when we look at multiculturalism. Sometime in the 1980s, universities began to champion the importance of “diversity” as a central educational value." (It Takes a Family, 406)

"Another corporate good citizen cooperating with parents to keep kids from inappropriate content has been Wal-Mart." (It Takes a Family, 332)

http://capitolbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/santorum-book-excerpts.html

"In far too many families with young children, both parents are working, when, if they really took an honest look at the budget, they might confess that both of them really don’t need to, or at least may not need to work as much as they do… And for some parents, the purported need to provide things for their children simply provides a convenient rationalization for pursuing a gratifying career outside the home."

"Many women have told me, and surveys have shown, that they find it easier, more “professionally” gratifying, and certainly more socially affirming, to work outside the home than to give up their careers to take care of their children. Think about that for a moment…Here, we can thank the influence of radical feminism, one of the core philosophies of the village elders." (It Takes a Family, 95)

"The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong." (It Takes a Family, 138)

This should wrap up the election for Bob Casey Jr. :lol :lol

 

[Iceman]

wow. comments from a conservative that don't sit well with liberals. He's bound to lose now.

I agree with all that, btw.

 

[Drinky Crow]

You're also as dumb as a donkey's scrotum, Iceman.

 

[AssMan]

God, I fucking HATE Sean Hannity with a passion. All he talks about is Dick Durban's comments yet he must not realize what Rick Santorum said about democrats comparing them to Hitler.

 

[Macam]

No, Hannity realizes what Rick Santorum said about Democrats and Hitler. He just doesn't care and/or agrees.

You're also as dumb as donkey's scrotum, Iceman.

:lol

 

[ronito]

God, I fucking HATE Sean Hannity with a passion. All he talks about is Dick Durban's comments yet he must not realize what Rick Santorum said about democrats comparing them to Hitler.

Are you serious? Of course he knows what Santorum said. He just doesn't care. It's much easier to be a pundit when you're totally convinced anyone that doesn't agree with you is THE DEVIL.

"I don't wantchoo hanging out with them liberal. They's da debul!!"

 

[Incognito]

Sean Hannity will deliver us from evil.

I think a little respect is in order, folks.

 

[Bluecondor]

I like Dan Savage's definition of "Santorum" (which was inspired by comments Rick made - along the same lines):

"That frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex."

It's great - we educated the man in Pittsburgh and elected him in PA.

 

[Pellham]

wow. comments from a conservative that don't sit well with liberals. He's bound to lose now.

I agree with all that, btw.

Okay, abortion I understand. Anti-diversity (aren't you black, Iceman? Or at least, not white?) I almost understand. But Santorum's comments infering that women should stay at home? WTF how the hell can any sane person agree with that?

Maybe it's because I grew up in a household where my dad was a bum and my mom was the breadwinner, but there is no reason we should force women to be housewives.

 

[Gruco]

"In far too many families with young children, both parents are working, when, if they really took an honest look at the budget, they might confess that both of them really don’t need to, or at least may not need to work as much as they do… And for some parents, the purported need to provide things for their children simply provides a convenient rationalization for pursuing a gratifying career outside the home."

As much as I hate agreeing with anything that Santorum has to say, I think there's a really good point in here. Not in the sense of "Womenfolk should stay at home!" but that good parents need to give their children a lot of attention, and being a family of hypermaterialistic workaholics makes that difficult.

 

[Father_Brain]

Based on his posting record in threads like this, I predict Iceman will fail to make a post substantively defending any of these points, beyond "OMG SANTORUM ROX SUCK IT DOWN LIBRULZ!"

Wow! I must be a genius!

BTW, look at the reviews on Amazon:

Feminazis, July 6, 2005
Reviewer: Philly Fanatic "Waiting to be delivered" (Philadelphia, PA) - See all my reviews
Jesus, bless this man for showing me this truth! Before reading this book I was an unemployed, married, non-white, and non-christian man. After reading this book, my eyes have opened - I am eagerly looking forward towards the day when President Sanctorum will reinstate slavery. I cant wait to become a white-loving slave, a christian (boo to you homersexuals), and am enthusiastic about letting my woman get gang raped by men named Strom and Rick. Go get 'er Strom. Go get her Rick. Whoopee. That teaches you for earning my keep. And after they're done with ya, go back to to the kitchen and act like a proper woman, you feminazi.

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6 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
trashy book, July 6, 2005
Reviewer: Bob Smith (Tulsa, OK USA) - See all my reviews
this book is total trash. I will never buy a book from him again. i thought it would be about cool stuff like how to smite a liberal but instead he talks about families. bleh.

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11 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
Right wing trash, July 6, 2005
Reviewer: John D. Wagner "John W." (Chapel Hill, NC) - See all my reviews
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In this book, raw sewage posing as instructive inspiring prose spews from the mouth of self-righteous, right-wing, hate-monger Rick Santorum. He belongs in Iran, where he'd be welcome squashing woman's rights; he shouldn't be trying to push a cleric government on US citizens who widely view his efforts as unconstitutional. I found this book arrogant, and self righteous. Oh and did I mention that I found this book arrogant, and self righteous? Rick -- your vision for American is found today in contemporary Iran or Saudia Arabia: clerics rule and impose their will on people whom they think are ungodly trash. Please do the world the favor, Ricky, and go back to teaching sunday school is some backwater podunk school where they abhore nakedness and lustful thoughts of...dare we say it....sassy women! But note, Rick, that it's still against the law to beat other people's children (we know you beat your own), much as you hate the prospect of letting Satin fester in them as they watch those evil evil cartoons.

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30 of 37 people found the following review helpful:
please, stop with the sarcasm!, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: farley l. hatcher "farley l. hatcher" (Washington) - See all my reviews
I think it is cruel to write sarcastic praise for the honorable Rick Santorum, when he went to all the work to provide a blueprint where you can live your life and gain a trip to heaven and get your 72 virgins. That is the reward, isn't it? Anyway there are two things that should have heen addressed and they might be in the sequel. One, how do you get the Pennsylvania school system to pay you for home schooling your kids when your home is in Virginia? I also don't live in Pennsylvania, but would love to get in on some of that cash. And second, where can I get a dead 25 week fetus to bring home to bond with my children. I am sure that Rick's children developed a long and loving relationship with the one he brought home. I want to be just like Rick!

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7 of 25 people found the following review helpful:
You Go Girls, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: Waygood Ellis - See all my reviews
I'm glad to see the fringe is supporting the sale of this book and doing so with such gusto and zeal! Even more amazing? They paid for overnight shipping as the book has only just now become available. On top of THAT, they spent their 4th of July reading all 467 pages so that they could bring to you the insightful and penetrating reviews they so carefully penned.

Big Gay Al, Betty Born Again, commie in San Fran, and all denizens of the moral swamp lands, you're helping the cause you're battling against more than you'll ever know. You're exposing your small minds and witless humor to all. Please keep up the good work!

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44 of 49 people found the following review helpful:
Worse than slavery, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: commie atheist (San Francisco, CA) - See all my reviews
I especially like the part where he compares abortion to slavery, and says: "But unlike abortion today, in most states even the slaveholder did not have the unlimited right to kill his slave."

That is SO TRUE!!! I mean, a slaveowner could kill his own slave if the slave got ornery, or ran away, but if a slaveowner killed another slaveowner's slave, he had to pay a considerable fine for destruction of property.

Really, slavery was just not as bad as all you liberals think it was. The darkies were well cared for, clothed, fed and sheltered, and kept away from unneccesary distractions like reading and writing. And they were happy to be slaves! It was all their little minds were capable of comprehending - obeying their masters, just as women should obey their masters, whether it be husband or father or older brother.

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52 of 59 people found the following review helpful:
Reexamining my role as a woman..., July 5, 2005
Reviewer: BettyBornAgain "Santorum2008" (New York, NY United States) - See all my reviews
Thank you Senator Santorum (God willing, one day, President Santorum) for showing me the light of my sinful ways. Imagine my surprise to discover how selfishly I've lived my life these last 8 years since turning 18 -- educating myself at my parents' expense, forcing my poor mother to find a "fulfilling" career outside the home to pay for my selfish need to become a lawyer, rather than a homemaker, which is the role I was born to fill. Thank you again, Senator...I will go to my boss right now, quit my job, marry my loser boyfriend, and start working on my brood of young, God-fearing, draft-dodging, Republicans. (home-schooled, of course) With you, Senator Santorum, I feel like God is representing Pennsylvania.

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48 of 55 people found the following review helpful:
Thank you from a grateful constituent!, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: Maria in Pgh "Maria in Pgh" (Pittsburgh, PA) - See all my reviews
Being from Pennsylvania. I've always been proud to have Rick Santorum as my senator. After reading his book, I am even prouder and more well informed. I now know that as a single woman, if I should ever have a child, a college education will not help me move up the economic ladder (pg. 138) and that if I ever become married (to a good HETEROSEXUAL) and have children, that most likely I would be selfishly trying to gratify myself (under the influence of RADICAL FEMINISM) if I continued to work outside the home (pg. 94-95). This all makes so much sense that I will advise my future daughters to skip higher education as once they start popping out the kids, they will not need a college degree, and I and my future heterosexual spouse will not have to save any money for their education.

Thank you, Sen. Santorum! X X O O

It takes a senator from virginia, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: a real "working mom" (PA) - See all my reviews
Thanks to Rick Santorum, I have seen the light.

As a college educated woman and working mother of two, I had no idea that my life was so seriously askew until Mr. Santorum saw fit to plagiarize a book title and introduce the world to his particular brand of theocratic fascism.

At long last I understand that bilking the Penn Hills school district for $100,000 in order to send his 5 children to cyberschool in the comfort of their own $473K home in Virginia (while claiming residency based on ownership of an $87K 2-bedroom house in PA) is not a station that the average dual-earner family should aspire to.

After much ignorance, I now see that only the likes of Mrs. Santorum should be the ones to benefit from $500,000 medical malpractice suits while her husband works to make sure that the rest of us see our right to redress in the courts is limited. Of course it all makes sense now - as a lawyer and a nurse, Mrs. Santorum definately doesn't fit in the good Senator's mold when he says:
"The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong."

And after being so haplessly misled by the radical feminist movement, I will promptly go tell my husband that he must go quadruple his income and secure health insurance. NO whining about the economy, the 45 million people without health insurance, the millions more who are underinsured - it is his manly duty.

Wait. Am I allowed to do that?

Well, one thing I'm certain of doing - come November 2006 - is to vote that jackass out of office. Perhaps then Mr. Santorum can devote his time to childrearing and living on one income and all of the other things he deems it so noble and necessary for OTHER PEOPLE to do. Of course, 2006 better come soon - before the likes of Rick Santorum make it impossible for women to vote.




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52 of 59 people found the following review helpful:
Wonderful Read!, July 5, 2005
Reviewer: B. Valachovic (Burlington, NJ USA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
Thanks Mr. Santorum! Thank you so much! After reading "It Takes a Family" I made my wife quit her job. We're now working on having our third child. Hopefully things will get better though, because we can't afford to eat too much these days. A meal usually consists of what we call "ketchup sandwiches". But, I must say I'm truly enlightened and this outweighs the hunger in my stomach and the fear of not being able to pay the mortgage. Mr. Santorum, you're a true American hero.

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1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Let me review my budget again..., July 5, 2005
Reviewer: KSC - See all my reviews
According to Rick, my partner and I don't really need to both be working outside of the home. Rick says that if we would just take a careful look at our home budget, we would see that we are only working to "gratify" ourselves and not because we have bills to pay. We don't need outside employment (especially me) because it does not really provide the type of role modeling our children need from two community servants like ourselves who work in the public service sector. The cost of tuition, property ownership, utility bills, medical care and insurance are only going to be on the rise. Perhaps if I sent Rick our budget then he could pick up the tab on my child's education--leaving me to use my hard earned PHD to sit home and complete lovely craft projects.

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58 of 68 people found the following review helpful:
Thank you Rick Santorum!, July 3, 2005
Reviewer: David Robinson (Ne w York) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
Wonderful book. I'm hoping this book turns my life around -- I now realize that being gay is a choice -- I only thought that I was gay, (I guess I thought that because even my very first memories include being attracted to other males), I can now choose to marry a woman, have children and UNTIL THE DAM BREAKS AND I GO BACK TO HAVING SEX WITH MEN BEHIND MY WIFE'S BACK, contriubte something to America -- unlike now (where I only have a 17 year-old stable, moderately successful business, pay taxes, hire people, and create other jobs -- but all that shouldn't count because I'm not currently married). When I get over hating myself maybe I'll be good for society. Thanks again Rick Santorum.

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68 of 74 people found the following review helpful:
This book is truly eye opening, July 1, 2005
Reviewer: Big Gay Al "Fabulous!" (Minneapolis, MN) - See all my reviews
As a now formerly gay man, thanks to this truly enlightening book, I now realize the great error of my ways. As someone who was looking to truly cement the values of amerika, I now, with the help of the great rick "man on dog" santorum, that I need to get married, have tons of kids, and live my life in absolute torture. This will help amerika find it's true calling! Really, the only way for people to be truly and happily amerikan, is for the men to go to thier poverty wage job for 60 hours a week, be married by the age of 17, and be constantly beating the wife, as long as she's not pregnant. Thanks Rick! Go buy this book and you'll realize why Man on Dog is truly an inspiration to all conservatives and christians alike!

 

[videogamer]

Why is he talking about diversity/multiculturalism in a negative manner? Only a small quote is given, and I would like to know why he has such a problem with it.

 

[Macam]

Why is he talking about diversity/multiculturalism in a negative manner? Only a small quote is given, and I would like to know why he has such a problem with it.

If I had to take a wild guess, it probably goes along the lines of not all cultures being equal with which ever one he belongs to being the most superior. I'd also venture to guess that he thinks diversity introduced negative values and ethics, corrupting his view of superior values, and promulgates the notion of equality when some views are clearly not equal or are inferior, like the acceptance of homosexuality. But then again, I haven't read the book and I'm merely guessing, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it falls along those lines, at least if I recall my hate mongering correctly.

 

[videogamer]

If I had to take a wild guess, it probably goes along the lines of not all cultures being equal with which ever one he belongs to being the most superior. I'd also venture to guess that he thinks diversity introduced negative values and ethics, corrupting his view of superior values, and promulgates the notion of equality when some views are clearly not equal or are inferior, like the acceptance of homosexuality. But then again, I haven't read the book and I'm merely guessing, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it falls along those lines, at least if I recall my hate mongering correctly.

Usually they aren't that obvious. I usually see dislike of diversity attached to affirmative action bashing or what they see as too much attention to other cultures. But if we're lucky, then you would be right.

 

[Hitokage]

As much as I hate agreeing with anything that Santorum has to say, I think there's a really good point in here. Not in the sense of "Womenfolk should stay at home!" but that good parents need to give their children a lot of attention, and being a family of hypermaterialistic workaholics makes that difficult.

It has little to do with greed, but rather the pathetic economic reality we live in.... many non-upper class families NEED two incomes these days to make ends meet. Now if I was cruel I'd summon loki to fill the rest of this web page telling why.

 

[brooklyngooner]

Now if I was cruel I'd summon loki to fill the rest of this web page telling why.

Our Mod is a benevolent Mod...right?

 

[bob_arctor]

It has little to do with greed, but rather the pathetic economic reality we live in.... many non-upper class families NEED two incomes these days to make ends meet. Now if I was cruel I'd summon loki to fill the rest of this web page telling why.

As a working dad of 2 with a working wife (who earns more than my sorry ass I might add), "economic reality" pretty much nails it. Combined, we're probably around the 110K salary range and that barely covers our living expenses. It definitely doesn't help being in NYC since real estate is more expensive than blocks of gold, but whatareyagonnado? Eventually we'll leave NYC, but it's just not feasible right now.

Edit: I should also add that neither of us are "workaholics" by any remote stretch. We fucking hate work.

 

[human5892]

Being from PA, I always feel the need to apologize for Rick Santorum being in a position of power, although you can be damn sure I'd never vote for him.

So: I'm sorry.

 

[videogamer]

Maybe it shouldn't be framed as "greed", but rather "frugality" or reducing consumption. Ignoring expensive areas such as San Francisco or New York city, it's not impossible to live off one income. Several of my relatives do it. Housing too expensive? Then move in with another family. Too many other expenses? Use the bus, double coupons, and Goodwill. The thing is, not that many Americans are willing to live much farther below their two-income means.

 

[Amused_To_Death]

You know he's being groomed to be the GOP nominee in 2008, don't you? And you thought GW was bad, just wait...

 

[Nerevar]

Maybe it shouldn't be framed as "greed", but rather "frugality" or reducing consumption. Ignoring expensive areas such as San Francisco or New York city, it's not impossible to live off one income. Several of my relatives do it. Housing too expensive? Then move in with another family. Too many other expenses? Use the bus, double coupons, and Goodwill. The thing is, not that many Americans are willing to live much farther below their two-income means.

The goodwill exists because of donations from these very same people you want to give up their two incomes and start shopping there. Good lord you're dense.

Edit: I guess you're also not discouraged by the increasing salary disparity between corporate executives and their workers either. But hey, I'm sure you'd be fine living "below your two-income means" as long as your corporate CEO can add a new private jet to his personal fleet.

 

[Diablos]

I'd like to think that such comments could only contribute to what we (with the exception of a few misguided people here) will see as Santorum's downfall. But after the election last year, we can't set ourselves up to think he's going to lose just because he's been acting like a moron -- or, shall I say, more of a moron -- lately.

I'm ashamed that Rick Santorum is someone that represents my state. Ashamed and embarrassed. He's a scumbag.

 

[Fatghost]

Two incomes are pretty much a necessity these days. It's a luxury to be able to keep 1 parent at home with the kids.

 

[Gruco]

It has little to do with greed, but rather the pathetic economic reality we live in.... many non-upper class families NEED two incomes these days to make ends meet. Now if I was cruel I'd summon loki to fill the rest of this web page telling why.

I recognize that's often the case (seriously, I don't need a lecture on this subject, please don't drag Loki into this), but that doesn't mean there aren't still the upper middle/upper income suburban families that buy a new SUV every week (hyperbole) for the sake of impressing their neighbors.

There's a problem with working families, yeah, but there's also probablem with families defining their "ends meet" higher than it really reasonably should, or needs to, be.

 

[reggieandTFE]

Maybe it shouldn't be framed as "greed", but rather "frugality" or reducing consumption. Ignoring expensive areas such as San Francisco or New York city, it's not impossible to live off one income. Several of my relatives do it. Housing too expensive? Then move in with another family. Too many other expenses? Use the bus, double coupons, and Goodwill. The thing is, not that many Americans are willing to live much farther below their two-income means.

The real question is: why should working and middle class Americans have to worry about working more and more jobs and hours to sustain the lifestyles they earned by winning two world wars, going to college, joining unions and having to courage to strike for what's right? Why should we have to step back and "live below our two-income means" so that Wall Street, the banks and foreign investors can extract twice as much profit this year...and the next year... and the year after...? FUCK THAT.

 

[Hitokage]

seriously, I don't need a lecture on this subject, please don't drag Loki into this

Hahaha, I was kidding, although this thread was probably condemned already.

Seriously though, add in a housing bubble, premium rates on property near decent schools, high insurance rates, predatory lending, decline in real wages, increasing higher education costs, and decreasing financial aid for same higher education... and it's hard to chalk it up to just discretionary spending on luxury, unless being a middle class american with middle class work is now a luxury.

 

[videogamer]

The goodwill exists because of donations from these very same people you want to give up their two incomes and start shopping there. Good lord you're dense.

Edit: I guess you're also not discouraged by the increasing salary disparity between corporate executives and their workers either. But hey, I'm sure you'd be fine living "below your two-income means" as long as your corporate CEO can add a new private jet to his personal fleet.

1. If there are donated clothes, then Goodwill may be able to raise prices. That way, people may be pushed to consume even less. Anyways, we can find some really nice clothes at Goodwill for ridiculously low prices.
2. My post had nothing to do with "private jet" but with the choices individual families make.