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[worldrunover]

You do realize that he was likely cheating on his wife, the mother of his 4 children, right?

So if you cheat on your wife, you deserve to get shot in the head?

 

[Zep]

Would like to know the girls background..

Can't count the many times these girls who look so innocent are drug pushers. Just never fuckin know.

 

[Cloudy]

Closeup pic of her from HuffPo

 

[Ninja Scooter]

sounding like he just got mixed up with a fatal attraction type of girl.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Closeup pic of her from HuffPo

You don't mess with crazy putty.

 

[NYR]

So if you cheat on your wife, you deserve to get shot in the head?

Nice logic. The guy I quoted called Vick a scumbag, claiming McNair was morally superior - simply pointing out he was a scumbag too.

 

[DY_nasty]

sounding like he just got mixed up with a fatal attraction type of girl.

Yeah, thats what it looks like...

He was nowhere close to Vick territory though.

 

[Ovid]

I don't understand why you guys keep saying that he was cheating on his wife. Do you know that for sure? They could have been mutually separated and probably going the process of divorce.

 

[DY_nasty]

I don't understand why you guys keep saying that he was cheating on his wife. Do you know that for sure? They could have been mutually separated and probably going the process of divorce.

Thats GAF for you... I'm not saying that McNair was a victim of blackmail or something but nothing is certain at this point. At least wait til there's an actual investigation into the whole matter...

 

[nincompoop]

Yeah, thats what it looks like...

He was nowhere close to Vick territory though.

How do you know McNair wasn't involved with dog fighting at some point? Seems like it's pretty common in the types of neighborhoods he and Vick grew up in.

 

[DY_nasty]

How do you know McNair wasn't involved with dog fighting at some point? Seems like it's pretty common in the types of neighborhoods he and Vick grew up in.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

 

[.GqueB.]

Nope, nothing special about 2009. Lots of notable people died in 2008, 2007, 2006, etc.

You are just showing your stupidness and shortsightedness by saying shit like OMG 2009 THIS IS SO HORRIBLE.

When has it been so rapid and so ridiculously dramatic?

Ed
Farrah
Mike
Billy
Then Mcnair gets shot in the head

This was all in the last week. Not saying that this is the WORST year ever but I cant remember so many deaths happening in rapid succession like this. Feel free to correct.

 

[btf1980]

How do you know McNair wasn't involved with dog fighting at some point? Seems like it's pretty common in the types of neighborhoods he and Vick grew up in.

Yes, you are a nincompoop.

 

[harSon]

How do you know McNair wasn't involved with dog fighting at some point? Seems like it's pretty common in the types of neighborhoods he and Vick grew up in.

Fuck you.

Not everyone in the hood takes part in dog fights, matter of fact, probably less then a fraction of a fraction of a percent of people in these types of neighborhoods do.

Edit: He lived in Mount Olive, Mississippi........

 

[Master Thespian]

When has it been so rapid and so ridiculously dramatic?

Ed
David
Farrah
Mike
Billy
Then Mcnair gets shot in the head

Fixed.

How do you know McNair wasn't involved with dog fighting at some point? Seems like it's pretty common in the types of neighborhoods he and Vick grew up in.

 

[Branduil]

Yeah, thats what it looks like...

He was nowhere close to Vick territory though.

I dunno, I have more sympathy for dog fighters than cheaters.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

This thread is about to get stupid.

 

[Stoney Mason]

I dunno, I have more sympathy for dog fighters than cheaters.

Well I think we can both agree that you probably don't deserve to be killed for either and that one is mostly illegal in the United States and the other isn't.

This thread is about to get stupid.

Nearly every death thread eventually does...

 

[StoOgE]

Eh,

If the car was registered to both McNair and this woman, my bet is the wife knew this was going on and they were separated. Getting on the title of a car with another woman is not what guys trying to hide their lifestyle does.

 

[nincompoop]

Fuck you.

Not everyone in the hood takes part in dog fights, matter of fact, probably less then a fraction of a fraction of a percent of people in these types of neighborhoods do.

Edit: He lived in Mount Olive, Mississippi........

I'm not trying to imply that he did, I just think it's silly that people who presumably didn't know him are defending him as some kind of saint when they have no basis for determining the quality of his character, outside of how he was portrayed in the media. If Vick's dogfighting operation never came to light nobody would think he was a bad person either.

 

[DJ_Tet]

I'm not trying to imply that he did, I just think it's silly that people who presumably didn't know him are defending him as some kind of saint when they have no basis for determining the quality of his character, outside of how he was portrayed in the media. If Vick's dogfighting operation never came to light nobody would think he was a bad person either.

Vick always came off as an immoral scumbag. Just sayin, not everyone was wowed by his nice smile.

 

[Fidelis Hodie]

holy shit. I was just downtown (i live in nashville) last night

I grew up in nashville. My superbowl losing, McNair helmed titans will always hold a tight grip on my heart.



Yay collins?

 

[YoungHav]

That scumbag piece of shit Michael Vick is still alive where as a true professional in every aspect of the word gets shot in the god damn head.

I'm going hunting for justice.

:lol @ people still mad at Vick. I think cheating is morally more reprehensible than dog fighting. All those animals people eat daily are treated like shit and inhumanely but no one gives a shit as long as their KFC or Big Macs are served warm. I'd rather have my wife betting on dogfights than hopping on someone else's dick, lol. Right? Srsly!

Just because "everyone cheats" doesn't mean cheating is good allofasudden. Seems like dogs are respected more'n women in this country.

Vick >>>> McNair.

Well I think we can both agree that you probably don't deserve to be killed for either and that one is mostly illegal in the United States and the other isn't.

Cheating is worse IMO. Vick vs McNair shouldn't turn on illegality; people weren't mad at Vick b/c he was doing something illegal. The public is/was mad at Vick b/c dogs died... the government doesn't give a shit that dogs died, they were pissed about the money being made off the books. Malum prohibitum. What's illegal is very arbitrary at times.

Whether people want to justify cheating or think it's not a big deal at the end of the day, they are entitled to that opinion. But cheating always involves deception and I think in nearly all cultures there's always a wronged party when cheating occurs. The whole Vick thing is ethnocentric in the grand spectrum of things. A dog is an animal at the end of the day... most people here don't care what happens to animals as long as a dog or cat isn't the one harmed. While other cultures these same animals we worship are served as food. There's even a deep rooted hunting culture in this country... That's hypocritical and inconsistent.

 

[woodchuck]

i dont believe he was cheating with her (at the time of the shooting). having a car under both names and then posing for a photograph with your mistress is not something cheating people usually do.

my theory is that McNair and his wife were separated or going through a divorce. McNair probably told this girl that he was going to marry her, etc.,etc. Then McNair and his wife decided to get back together.

this girl got pissed and bam. murder-suicide.

 

[YoungHav]

^^ a car under both names does seem weird. I do know people who've taken pics with their mistresses though. I mean, my uncle has a mistress and he hoards his money away from my aunt and cousins. He owns houses out of state that his family have nothing to do with, it wouldn't be farfetched to think he might co-own this with his mistress. My uncle isn't nearly as rich as McNair was, so who knows about the car co-ownership.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Sucks that instead of remembering all the good McNair did, the world is going to focus on how he died.

 

[YoungHav]

^^ that was up to him. And what good has he done besides excelling at football (I'm not trolling, I don't follow football and dunno these players outside of my Madden games)?

 

[DarienA]

^^ that was up to him. And what good has he done besides excelling at football (I'm not trolling, I don't follow football and dunno these players outside of my Madden games)?

http://www.officialstevemcnair.com/

http://www.examiner.com/x-3958-Atla...Nair--a-champion-for-underprivileged-children

http://www.officialstevemcnair.com/foundations.php

and any host of additional news articles about his community work, the new restaurant opened near a college to provide healthy food alternatives etc...

 

[Lucky Forward]

Woman with McNair bought gun, relative says

Nephew says police told him of Kazemi's purchase; cops won't comment
The Associated Press
updated 2:46 p.m. ET, Mon., July 6, 2009

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Steve McNair’s 20-year-old girlfriend bought a gun a couple of days before she was found dead alongside the slain former NFL quarterback, her relative said Monday.

Farzin Abdi said police told him about the gun purchase by his aunt Sahel Kazemi, who was raised with him like a sister. Kazemi and McNair were found dead on Saturday in a Nashville condominium leased by the former Titans star.

Abdi said police told him they are almost sure Kazemi was the shooter, but the 27-year-old nephew said he doesn’t believe she would do it. Abdi didn’t know what day of the week the gun was purchased or what type of gun it was.

“There was no way she was depressed and wanting to do this,” he said. “She was so happy. ... She just had it made, you know, (with) this guy taking care of everything.”

Nashville police didn’t immediately have a response to Abdi’s comments.

Abdi said Kazemi believed McNair was divorcing his wife and she was preparing to sell her furniture to move in with him.

 

[VanMardigan]

“There was no way she was depressed and wanting to do this,” he said. “She was so happy. ... She just had it made, you know, (with) this guy taking care of everything.”

Abdi said Kazemi believed McNair was divorcing his wife and she was preparing to sell her furniture to move in with him.

Yeah, well I can see how this can turn deadly in a hurry. Someone thinks they have it "made", getting ready to move out, then BAM! Steve says he's reconciling with the wife. Chick flips out.

 

[Sanjuro]

:lol @ people still mad at Vick. I think cheating is morally more reprehensible than dog fighting. All those animals people eat daily are treated like shit and inhumanely but no one gives a shit as long as their KFC or Big Macs are served warm. I'd rather have my wife betting on dogfights than hopping on someone else's dick, lol. Right? Srsly!

Just because "everyone cheats" doesn't mean cheating is good allofasudden. Seems like dogs are respected more'n women in this country.

Vick >>>> McNair.


Cheating is worse IMO. Vick vs McNair shouldn't turn on illegality; people weren't mad at Vick b/c he was doing something illegal. The public is/was mad at Vick b/c dogs died... the government doesn't give a shit that dogs died, they were pissed about the money being made off the books. Malum prohibitum. What's illegal is very arbitrary at times.

Whether people want to justify cheating or think it's not a big deal at the end of the day, they are entitled to that opinion. But cheating always involves deception and I think in nearly all cultures there's always a wronged party when cheating occurs. The whole Vick thing is ethnocentric in the grand spectrum of things. A dog is an animal at the end of the day... most people here don't care what happens to animals as long as a dog or cat isn't the one harmed. While other cultures these same animals we worship are served as food. There's even a deep rooted hunting culture in this country... That's hypocritical and inconsistent.

You don't make any sense. I feel silly now that I read everything you wrote.

 

[Night_Trekker]

:lol @ people still mad at Vick. I think cheating is morally more reprehensible than dog fighting. All those animals people eat daily are treated like shit and inhumanely but no one gives a shit as long as their KFC or Big Macs are served warm. I'd rather have my wife betting on dogfights than hopping on someone else's dick, lol. Right? Srsly!

Just because "everyone cheats" doesn't mean cheating is good allofasudden. Seems like dogs are respected more'n women in this country.

Vick >>>> McNair.

Wha... huh?

 

[DarienA]

20 yrs old? Trouble right there... mature? self-sufficient? No.

 

[mckmas8808]

Well I think we can both agree that you probably don't deserve to be killed for either and that one is mostly illegal in the United States and the other isn't.
...

Actually I respect dog fighters, more than cheaters. Regardless I agree he didn't deserve to die if he really was cheating. But it looks like he had it coming (if he was cheating).

 

[element]

reading some of the national papers comments on this whole thing is a riot.

the conspiracy theories are insane. the wife did it, the ex-boyfriend did it, his friend who found the bodies did it. Some comments even go as far as saying there is a coverup, or comparing it to Nicole Brown Simpson/OJ in police incompetence. Lots of people saying, 'how could the wife not know he was cheating?' well just watch the news. mark sanford cheated on his wife for a year without her knowing.

I mean really does it take Gil Grissom to jump out of a CSI episode to figure this out?

McNair meets a cute girl. Hooks up with her to have some fun on the side.
Deep down inside he has no intentions of leaving his family.
Girl finally figures out that she is a piece of meat and is getting played
Buys gun
Confronts McNair on his intentions
She kills him, kills herself

I don't understand why you guys keep saying that he was cheating on his wife. Do you know that for sure? They could have been mutually separated and probably going the process of divorce.

There was no legal status of a divorce in progress. Even separations have to be filed through the courts.

 

[whytemyke]

So people are comparing McNair and Vick. How? Did Vick die?

The only way I can see this being a legit conversation topic is that people are debating whether they'd rather have Mike Vick dead than Steve McNair, which is a reprehensible topic to be talking about. Just ironic that the people involved are also the ones passing the judgement on immorality, as well.

 

[VanMardigan]

So it's officially confirmed as a murder-suicide by the police now. I think my theory on the events is probably spot on.

 

[Lucky Forward]

McNair had filmed suicide prevention ad weeks before his death

Public service announcement was in the editing process when deaths were reported
By Ken Whitehouse

07-08-2009 3:19 PM — Before his unexpected death on July 4, former Tennessee Titan quarterback Steve McNair had continued his tradition of civic involvement by filming a public service announcement (PSA) for the Tennessee Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities, NashvillePost.com has learned.

Sources say the advertisement was filmed, and editors were working on taglines and voiceovers when the deaths were discovered.

When asked about the existence of the PSA, the mental health department confirmed that the filming had occurred.

"We were developing a PSA but it never reached the point of being aired and it seems broadcasting it now is not only inappropriate but doesn't serve the community, his family or memory, or the issue we hoped the PSA would help address," said Jill Hudson, the department's communications director.

Sometime in the early morning hours of Saturday, July 4, McNair was murdered by his 20-year-old mistress Sahel Kazemi, the Metro Police Department officially announced Wednesday. Kazemi then turned a gun on herself.

 

[Cloudy]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP)—Former NFL star Steve McNair(notes) was shot dead in his sleep last week by a 20-year-old girlfriend distraught about mounting financial problems and her belief that he was seeing someone else, police said Wednesday.

Sahel Kazemi “was spinning out of control” when she shot McNair four times as he dozed on a sofa early Saturday, then turned the gun on herself, Police Chief Ronal Serpas said.

Interviews with friends revealed that she was making payments on two cars, her rent was doubling and she suspected the married McNair was having a second affair with another young woman. end it,” Serpas said.

Police earlier had labeled McNair’s death a homicide, but waited for further tests and the revelations about Kazemi’s personal problems before concluding that she pulled the trigger of a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol in a condominium McNair rented with a friend.

McNair, 36, a quarterback for the Tennessee Titans most of his career, met Kazemi six months ago at a sports cafe where she was a waitress and his family often ate. She seemed happy and eager to build a life with him, but something went wrong.

“We do know that she was clearly sending a message during the last five to seven days of her life that things were going bad quickly,” Serpas said, though there was no indication she told anyone she planned to harm McNair.

Serpas said detectives learned that Kazemi recently found out about another young woman she thought McNair was romantically involved with and had even followed that woman home, though she did not confront her.

Serpas said police believe McNair was asleep when he was killed because there were no defensive wounds. After shooting McNair in the head, Kazemi apparently shot him twice in the chest before shooting him again in the head.

Before shooting herself, she sat next to his body and “tried to stage it so she would fall in his lap,” Serpas said. She did, but her body slid to the floor and ended up at McNair’s feet. The gun was found underneath her.

Kazemi’s family told reporters that the woman was so confident McNair was divorcing his wife of 12 years that she was preparing to sell her furniture and move in with him.

But associate Mike Mu, who has worked with McNair’s charitable association for years, said earlier Wednesday that McNair’s wife, Mechelle McNair, “didn’t know who this girl is.” No records of divorce proceedings have surfaced. The McNairs have four children.

Two days before the shooting, police stopped Kazemi driving a Cadillac Escalade sport utility vehicle that McNair had given her for her birthday in May.

According to an arrest affidavit, Kazemi had bloodshot eyes and alcohol on her breath. She refused a breath test and told an officer “she was not drunk, she was high.” She was charged with DUI. McNair was with her but not charged. He later made her bail.

Serpas said that even though both her name and McNair’s were on the Cadillac’s title, she was apparently responsible for making payments. She was also making payments on another car after she couldn’t sell it.

Kazemi had no history of violence, but “on the last several days of her life it’s obvious that she made some very poor decisions,” Serpas said.

......

 

[Ninja Scooter]

so in other words, "He found new pussy."

 

[Kolgar]

Hell of a way to go, in your sleep and at the hands of a young, dumb broad with her emotions all screwed up.

What a sad waste for all involved, both deceased and surviving.

 

[Gaborn]

WASHINGTON -- The Associated Press has learned that federal agents have a convicted felon under arrest for providing the gun later used to kill ex-NFL quarterback Steve McNair.

Two law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case, say the suspect has been arrested by agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

Federal prosecutors in Nashville plan to announce the charges at a press conference later Friday.

McNair was shot to death on July 4 at his condo by his 20-year-old mistress Sahel Kazemi, who then turned the gun on herself. Police have said Kazemi bought the gun in a private sale from a person they haven't identified.

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