A tv show failing to show that rape is related to power when it is a male kid fucking a hot adult ?
THAT MUST BE THE FIRST TIME
Sorry .. that was a complete deal breaker for the series to me.
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Riverdale |OT| Teen Peaks (or: Archie's Weirder Mysteries) - Thursday, 9/8c on The CW
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A tv show failing to show that rape is related to power when it is a male kid fucking a hot adult ?
THAT MUST BE THE FIRST TIME
Sorry .. that was a complete deal breaker for the series to me.
So much of this show is in this weird Schrodinger Zone where it's either good or bad but we don't know yet until we find out more. Like, is Veronica into Betty or is it just bait? Is this thing with the music teacher gonna be played as a romance or actually treated as statutory rape? Are generic mean girl and generic gay dude going to have more depth than that? Until I see where this is going I don't wanna dismiss these elements of the show; but I could see any of them being weak points.
I like that Archie is believably hot enough to have multiple girls interested, though. But he seems kinda bland, I dunno if it's the script or the acting but I kinda don't really care about him yet. That "I'm not good enough for you" moment was kinda out of nowhere and felt unearned. I did like the part where Josie just straight up shuts him down though. Like how dare he walk in there expecting them to just hop onboard his narrative arc when they have their own shit going on.
Betty I liked, seems like she has a lot going on under the surface. I'm not familiar with the comics, but she's the bland nice one right? So it's cool to see that that's kinda preformative and she has a lot of nuance. And, obviously, Veronica is the best part of the whole thing right now, we can all agree on that right? Feels like she walked in here from season 3 of some other show with a lot of development already; and the actress just sells it so well. Ranting at Cheryl was a bit hammy; but I loved her total disinterest in Archie's Art vs Sport drama.
So yeah cautiously optimistic I guess?
I like that Archie is believably hot enough to have multiple girls interested, though. But he seems kinda bland, I dunno if it's the script or the acting but I kinda don't really care about him yet. That "I'm not good enough for you" moment was kinda out of nowhere and felt unearned. I did like the part where Josie just straight up shuts him down though. Like how dare he walk in there expecting them to just hop onboard his narrative arc when they have their own shit going on.
Betty I liked, seems like she has a lot going on under the surface. I'm not familiar with the comics, but she's the bland nice one right? So it's cool to see that that's kinda preformative and she has a lot of nuance. And, obviously, Veronica is the best part of the whole thing right now, we can all agree on that right? Feels like she walked in here from season 3 of some other show with a lot of development already; and the actress just sells it so well. Ranting at Cheryl was a bit hammy; but I loved her total disinterest in Archie's Art vs Sport drama.
So yeah cautiously optimistic I guess?
WTF?
Archie is old enough for the affair not to be classified that.
And it's not unusual to see a 'straight' guy hitting on another guy. Especially when they are deeply closeted. Or you meant Betty/Veronica kiss?
I mean the totaly gratuitous Betty/Veronica kiss.
Might not be classified as that in your state/country but a 15/16 year student kissing an adult teacher is fucking weird to me
SomedayTheFire
Member
I liked it. Archie seems like a complete dickhead though and the teacher/student thing is horrible, no need for that. Needs more Jughead
Seems like you completely misread it then because she clearly knows she fucked up. And it was the first episode, so maybe they'll actually do something more with it.
There are actual classifications to this, pedophilia concerns pre-teen kids.
GhostWriter24
Member
I think watching episodes 1+2 back to back is a fine way to be introduced to Riverdale.
Thursday!
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
I'm a long time Archie fan and I loved it. Where's Midge though? And we absolutely need Sabrina at some point!
Probably dropped as a character because Moose is fucking Kevin, he doesn't need his own female love interest if his story is about him dealing with his sexuality
If the writers want him to hit on a girl in an attempt to appear straight for a few episodes those scenes can be given to Veronica or Cheryl. At the end of the season Moose will probbaly be out and dating Kevin.
He can also, you know, be bi curious and also into girls...
I don't see why it'd have to be closet gay every time.
Kevin is gay and to avoid criticism that they only use him as the celibate gay best friend who cheers for the straight couples he will date and have a sex life. If he and Moose stop seeing each other the show would have to introduce a new love interest and I don't see them doing that, at least not in the first season.
Moose is a secondary supporting character at best, he will get a bit of focus but not a lot, being the closeted gay character and tying his story to Kevin gives him a nice arc, if he's just bi curious and starts dating girls after a few episodes they could just write him out, the show has enough guys dating girls already and Moose is not important enough that him being bi would actually be explored, if he dates girls he drifts into "whatever" territory.
BlackGhost
Banned
I watched the first episode kept me interesting, I want to see more.
cj_iwakura
Member
It's not on US netflix apparently... CW it is.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
In the US, CW stuff will go up on Netflix 8 days after the entire season airs.
cj_iwakura
Member
That was one hell of a pilot. Damn heavy.
And yeah, AJ is perfect. Archie born and bred.
And yeah, AJ is perfect. Archie born and bred.
shira
Member
Wat. Zzz
Ohh, I didn't know Camila Mendes had Brazilian parents. Love it.
http://g1.globo.com/pop-arte/notici...riverdale-diz-que-adoraria-fazer-novela.ghtml (interview in Portuguese)
http://g1.globo.com/pop-arte/notici...riverdale-diz-que-adoraria-fazer-novela.ghtml (interview in Portuguese)
RecRoulette
Member
Got the Road to Riverdale paperback today, it's just a collection of the first issues of the different current Archie books along with some pictures from the show. A pretty solid pick up if you're not reading the stuff (although I'd probably recommend picking up Archie TPB #1 instead)
Before reading this I didn't know they were doing a one-shot that takes place before the show starts. That could be neat.
Before reading this I didn't know they were doing a one-shot that takes place before the show starts. That could be neat.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Wtf Betty is supposed to be 15?
JStein0222
Member
The supposed ages in this show are even more ridiculous than they usually are for tv high schools
umm... just got around to watching the pilot and don't think I want this show at all. I read Archie occasionally as a kid and this is like the comics in name only. C'mon CW how many teen dramas have you shat out? Enough already. Murder mystery to boot? At least Veronica et al are calling out the tropes even as they are played out. CW could have used this opportunity to do a comedy, alas... can't remember the last teen sitcom I saw? That 70s Show?
p.s. casting is mostly decent (interesting choice for Jughead) except for Betty's look. She was pretty enough at the dance, and I guess there'll be a makeover scene at some point where she'll be glammed up so Archie sees her in a new light but imo Betty should be as beautiful as Veronica and Cheryl on the daily. Also Archie is too good looking but this is CW so i'll allow it. Anyway this show sadly holds little interest for me. carry on...
p.s. casting is mostly decent (interesting choice for Jughead) except for Betty's look. She was pretty enough at the dance, and I guess there'll be a makeover scene at some point where she'll be glammed up so Archie sees her in a new light but imo Betty should be as beautiful as Veronica and Cheryl on the daily. Also Archie is too good looking but this is CW so i'll allow it. Anyway this show sadly holds little interest for me. carry on...
Norwegian Rudo
Member
Never trust Maybourne!
Nobody shoots themselves in the forehead. If it was a suicide the bullet hole would be under the chin.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Moose shot Jason while him and Cherly was on the boat, collected his body while she was in shock (and down river). Then waited and planted the body where he "stumbles" upon it. Killed him to keep his secret of being queer. Betty and Kevin are the next targets and Veronica saves them and gets the girl. Season 3 Archie finally gets Veronica
GhostWriter24
Member
Got around to watching it. Riverdale is embarrassingly derivative of other teen shows. I get sticking to genre conventions but Riverdale does more then that.
Archie- is doing his best Chad Michael Murry impression.
Veronica, Her Mom and Archie's Dad are virtually copy pasted from Gossip Girl.
The Mystery is more Pretty Little Liars then Twin Peaks as is the Inappropriate Student/Teacher relationship.
Hopefully its just Pilotitis and this show will grow into something good. But its off to an incredibly shaky start
Archie- is doing his best Chad Michael Murry impression.
Veronica, Her Mom and Archie's Dad are virtually copy pasted from Gossip Girl.
The Mystery is more Pretty Little Liars then Twin Peaks as is the Inappropriate Student/Teacher relationship.
Hopefully its just Pilotitis and this show will grow into something good. But its off to an incredibly shaky start
RPGCrazied
Member
It was okay, some of the dialogue was cringe, but I'll stick with it for now. What is with CW shows and everyone being hot? lol
The tropiness here (down to the Dawson's Creek S1 affair) is completely deliberate.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Where can I watch this? Can't find it on Hulu.
CW App in the US, it'll be on Netflix after full season airs.
Rest of the world gets it on Netflix weekly.
cj_iwakura
Member
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Dang, was hoping I could play it on my TV. Guess I'll wait it out for the end of the season.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think Xbox One has a CW app. Actually, I'm pretty sure most of those fancy streamy box & stick things have one, except for Playstation products for whatever reason.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Unfortunately the only streaming device I have it the handful of apps that are built into my tv.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Two options:
1) See if an antenna can work for you. Try this website: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90
2) Get the cheapest Roku streamer, the Roku Express: https://www.roku.com/products/roku-express
The Roku Express will beat the pants off the apps built into your TV and the device costs less than $30.00.
Beaniedude
Member
I just saw the first episode and have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Will catch the next episode and see the mystery unfold!!!
(Also I just rewatched the intro to Archie's Weird Mysteries, was that show actually good because the only thing I can remember about it is the intro)
(Also I just rewatched the intro to Archie's Weird Mysteries, was that show actually good because the only thing I can remember about it is the intro)
Next episode preview, with KJ and Cole talking a bit about the show:
https://twitter.com/CW_Riverdale/status/826858494166855680
Camila Mendes for DA MAN Magazine:
https://twitter.com/CW_Riverdale/status/826858494166855680
Camila Mendes for DA MAN Magazine:
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That CW Casting. Have mercy.
arts&crafts
Member
Watched it on Netflix, I am disappointed so far. Although I admit I only watched episode 1 of Pretty Little Liars, it got deja vu while watching Riverdale.
Also, did Archie sleep with his teacher in the comics?
Also, did Archie sleep with his teacher in the comics?
Nope, Miss Grundy is a stern maternal good teacher in the comics
Whether they perfectly execute or successfully subvert the tropes is besides the point. My frustration is that these are modern teen TV tropes and have nothing to do with traditional Archie tropes. Even a MAD style Starchie parody would be preferable to this Riverdale tale. I was hoping for at least an Inbetweeners, Some Girls, Fresh Prince type of show, or even something even more progressive and better, but instead yet another teen drama. what a waste
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