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[Log4Girlz]

Bernie will also bring world peace while he's at it.

God, Im getting so tired of idealistic talk at this point.

Hillary will get things done. Libya was just the beginning.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Economies are scalable. And I don't see why demographics have anything to do with what is being proposed.

Because people see it as giving money to the lazy other who are just waiting for handouts from the "real Americans" who work hard for their money.

 

[zer0blivion]

Hillary will get things done. Libya was just the beginning.

Sorry Bernie Bros, Your Candidate Just Doesn’t Have The Foreign Policy Experience Necessary To Prop Up A Pro-Western Dictatorship

Sure, he can speak abstractly about international relations, but enabling the rise of the next Pinochet requires a lot more than abstractions. For that, you need actual diplomatic chops and hands-on experience supporting tyrannical despots, and that’s where Sanders would be way out of his depth.

I’m just being pragmatic here. Even the most fanatical Bernie Bro has to admit their hero knows nothing about the real-life challenges a president faces when undermining established foreign governments. The tough truth is that no amount of high-minded rambling about free college tuition can put machine guns into the hands of juntas sympathetic to U.S. strategic goals.

I suppose this is about the time when Bernie’s army piles on me for blaspheming against the almighty Sanders’ ability to support U.S.–friendly fascist regimes in strategically important nations. Before you take to your Twitter soapboxes, though, tell me this: Do you honestly believe that a single-issue candidate like Sanders understands the geopolitical complexities involved in turning a blind eye to the human rights abuses of the Saudi monarchy in exchange for economic and military advantages?

I admire your dedication, Bernie Bros. I really do. But it’s time to admit that Sanders is a foreign policy flyweight who couldn’t facilitate a strategically convenient military coup for his life.

So again, I ask you: When it’s time to assassinate a democratically elected head of state who’s threatening American economic assets, is Bernie the guy you want in the Situation Room?

 

[noshten]

this might not have occurred to you, so I'm going to do my best to explain as I understand it

I don't think bernie winning will change things the way people seem to be assuming when he proposes this stuff. people seem to think he's promising that things will magically improve. they won't. our congress is still made out of piles of shit, and corporations still have a foothold on their own interests over the publics best interest.

here's where it matters, and even if he doesn't win, still makes a difference: the long term effect of bringing these big issues to light. talking about solutions. showing people there are other (viable) ways of doing things. giving people hope. So no, it's not going to fix the economy overnight, but putting honest systems in place that have good intentions and punishing those that cheat the system, giving people proper healthcare and education, focusing on PEOPLE, will 100% in the long term 'fix' the economy.

right now we don't really have anything but a crooked system being gamed and manipulated by the ones already benefiting from it. we don't have capitalism, we have it's twisted cousin, where the deck is stacked in a specific way. We have loads of taxes and funds that should be used for public good, slipping through loopholes or being sucked up by middlemen.

so no, he won't fix the economy, not in the way you've set your comment up to project, but shining light on the issues we need to fix, the steps we need to take, to get there, is the most important thing he can do, and he's doing it as best as he can. We all need to pitch in.

Not only that - bringing these issues and possible solutions to the public's focus would help eventually people lobby for these changes at local, state and federal level.

There are plenty of economists with views that are not entwined with trickle down economics and no tax increases for the population at large.

When people say that Bernie is selling rainbows and unicorns due to gridlock in government I can apply the same rhetoric to Hillary's proposals and call them a pipe-dream.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Not only that - bringing these issues and possible solutions to the public's focus would help eventually people lobby for these changes at local, state and federal level.

Maybe some of that public should've voted in 2010 and 2014 instead of complaining about Obama selling out because Ben Nelson was the 60th vote in the Senate.

There are plenty of economists with views that are not entwined with trickle down economics and no tax increases for the population at large.
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I agree and that's why 90% of those economists back Hillary Clinton and why Sanders has to dig out community college teachers and graduate students as part of his "Top Economists" who support his policies.