Insane Metal
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I think it makes a lot of sense. What say you, gaf?
Online Piracy's Great Comeback (a thorough look at the state of streaming)
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I think it makes a lot of sense. What say you, gaf?
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
While this deals more with streaming content (movies and music) I do think this will have a larger effect on games as they becoming a streaming first offering.
As a developer who has very limited options with how we can release our titles this is gross. I get it...people don't want to be nickel and dimmed to death with countless subscription services and within that more and more "tiers" of what you can enjoy.
The shitty part is that the content creators get effed-in-the-A in this area. The publishers are going to make their cash due to their catalogue size, the users might just pirate it...where does that leave the folks who make the content?
As a developer who has very limited options with how we can release our titles this is gross. I get it...people don't want to be nickel and dimmed to death with countless subscription services and within that more and more "tiers" of what you can enjoy.
The shitty part is that the content creators get effed-in-the-A in this area. The publishers are going to make their cash due to their catalogue size, the users might just pirate it...where does that leave the folks who make the content?
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Insane Metal
Member
I agree.Piracy never left, lol
I mean, I wouldn't know personally.
And of course I wouldn't either.
clarky
Gold Member
Piracy never left, lol
I mean, I wouldn't know personally.
I wouldn't either.I agree.
And of course I wouldn't either.
EerieArcade
Member
JayK47
Member
Not surprising. With the shift to each streaming service having their own content and not wanting to pay a license for old content, there is nowhere to watch older shows and movies that I like. If they happen to pop up on something, they are there only temporarily. I find myself flipping through various streaming services and end up just not watching anything. Basically back to watching DVDs again.
cormack12
Gold Member
I remember this in the UK about the sports rights. "Sky have too much dominance, and charge customers too much so we're going to make it fairer."
Instead of 1 overpriced subscription, people now need like 3 subscriptions which is still more expensive than when it was one carrier. And we can't even watch 3pm kickoffs in our own country so a lot have illegal iptv or sat boxes etc.
They get what they deserve, and still push ads to subscribers too!
Instead of 1 overpriced subscription, people now need like 3 subscriptions which is still more expensive than when it was one carrier. And we can't even watch 3pm kickoffs in our own country so a lot have illegal iptv or sat boxes etc.
They get what they deserve, and still push ads to subscribers too!
T8SC
Member
Amazon Prime has value, because it's not just for video streaming. When you factor in all the other benefits, it's worth the monthly/yearly subscription. However the cost is very similar to others who only provide a video streaming service and often offer very little on that platform that's worth watching.
Time to reminisce...
Time to reminisce...
Kilau
Member
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Lot of times I pay the service (Xfinity, HBO, Amazon,Netflix ,etc) but I can't be bothered to dig around to find which platform its on so I just load up Streamio; so much easier, quicker, and the quality is so much better. The quality on these paid services is such dog shit and there's literally 0 configurability for something you are paying up the ass for
They could learn a few things from what Steam did
They could learn a few things from what Steam did
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lee50_10
Member
True but this time:
It's crazy to me how much better Stremio is at handling HDR and differing frame rates too, like why does a piracy app offer such a better experience than Netflix/Prime/Disney/Crunchyroll which I pay for!
Plies
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I'd hate to say it but damn ...True but this time:
Companies have been unabashedly screwing over people in regards to what real "ownership" means.
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Trogdor1123
Member
I used to pirate stuff as it was just easier than the official ways but then the legit ways became easier so I stopped and bought all the stuff I wanted. It was great. Then streaming came and it was even easier which was great but I stopped buying things as everything was available on one or two services.
Then that all ended.
The streaming services popped up everywhere and the content got massively divided. You had to pay for a ton to get what you wanted. Then to Legitimize their existence, the massive content push occurred and it was often total trash.
It's currently harder/more expensive to get content right now than before and it's often lower quality. Many of the shows you want are not even available on any platforms in many regions.
I get why people pirate, it's not for me anymore but I get it.
Then that all ended.
The streaming services popped up everywhere and the content got massively divided. You had to pay for a ton to get what you wanted. Then to Legitimize their existence, the massive content push occurred and it was often total trash.
It's currently harder/more expensive to get content right now than before and it's often lower quality. Many of the shows you want are not even available on any platforms in many regions.
I get why people pirate, it's not for me anymore but I get it.
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Liopleurodon
Member
Because they wanna consume stuff, but not pay?
Trogdor1123
Member
For some I'm sure, for me it was convenience and all of the issues of the "legit" ways.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Piracy never left, lol
I mean, I wouldn't know personally.
I agree.
And of course I wouldn't either.
I wouldn't either.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
I most certainly DO NOT download movies at 4k quality which I dont wanna bother go to the cinema or are not on streaming services because of retarded licences. I certainly DO NOT do that at all.
Mistake
Member
The more these companies insist on digital libraries, the more they dig their own graves. Mostly because they keep changing what they have and insist on making the experience terrible.
Also, look what already happened to certain things like DS or 3DS. Their digital shops closed and everything on them would be gone without people who wanted to preserve it
Also, look what already happened to certain things like DS or 3DS. Their digital shops closed and everything on them would be gone without people who wanted to preserve it
StreetsofBeige
Member
Buy a streaming box, pay a site or store $10/mth, and get all the channels you can ask for, including PPV sports etc.... Fuck em. My coworkers finally convinced me to do it maybe 4 years ago. Initially I said I dont care, it'll probably be shitty quality like I'm finding free feeds on the net at low bit rates and pop up and promos ads and crap. Nope. It's like watching normal TV.
I used to be loyal subber for TV and internet service until they tried jacked my monthly bill $30-40! After trying to wheel and deal with 3 different people, they agreed to knock off a whopping $5 off the bill. I ditched them, re-signed back to my independent internet provider and did the streaming box thing. My total monthly bill dropped from $125/mth (would be $160-170-ish if I stuck with them) to $80 all in.
And for $80, I get practically every channel you can think of, movies, out of town sports and of course even.... the porn section! And I save myself about $50/mth vs from my old plan to boot.
Only problem is that it's internet based, so sometimes it goes down or the servers are hic upping. So you just got to wait it out, or sometimes power down and reconnct to their servers to fix that. While corporation TV service is always 100% good.
I used to be loyal subber for TV and internet service until they tried jacked my monthly bill $30-40! After trying to wheel and deal with 3 different people, they agreed to knock off a whopping $5 off the bill. I ditched them, re-signed back to my independent internet provider and did the streaming box thing. My total monthly bill dropped from $125/mth (would be $160-170-ish if I stuck with them) to $80 all in.
And for $80, I get practically every channel you can think of, movies, out of town sports and of course even.... the porn section! And I save myself about $50/mth vs from my old plan to boot.
Only problem is that it's internet based, so sometimes it goes down or the servers are hic upping. So you just got to wait it out, or sometimes power down and reconnct to their servers to fix that. While corporation TV service is always 100% good.
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Durin
Member
Streaming really only worked when it was condensed in a few places, because you had some assurance that the content you like to revisit would still be there...now it's either divided on different services, or the license just doesn't get renewed making X piece of content hard to find anywhere.
All these services have done is get me to buy a few more drives for my NAS, find Blu-Rays/DVDs on clearance or at thrift stores, automate converting those discs to digital files, and then just setup Jellyfin on the NAS to stream my own ever-growing library at home (or remotely).
All these services have done is get me to buy a few more drives for my NAS, find Blu-Rays/DVDs on clearance or at thrift stores, automate converting those discs to digital files, and then just setup Jellyfin on the NAS to stream my own ever-growing library at home (or remotely).
diffusionx
Gold Member
Cable was expensive but convenient and comprehensive (for the time), streaming started out by being cheap and comprehensive, now streaming is expensive, not comprehensive, and not convenient. It's basically the worst of everything. So no surprise more people are turning to piracy.
These companies built a massive shit sandwich and demandingg we all take a bite and many are not.
These companies built a massive shit sandwich and demandingg we all take a bite and many are not.
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