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[Sp3eD]

Song of the Century is the perfect vocal troll song. Force the entire band to sit :lol

 

[MrOctober]

I'm a little bummed out that mods enter this thread and ban Blu because what he said was out of context. To them it might have looked like obvious shitty trolling but everyone in here knows each other and to us that was as normal of a comment as anything. You just have to know who said what. I guess I understand since we kind of have our own club in here and it makes it unfriendly to outsiders but still.

All the cool kids go somewhere else anyway

 

[birdman]

I'm a little bummed out that mods enter this thread and ban Blu because what he said was out of context. To them it might have looked like obvious shitty trolling but everyone in here knows each other and to us that was as normal of a comment as anything. You just have to know who said what. I guess I understand since we kind of have our own club in here and it makes it unfriendly to outsiders but still.

All the cool kids go somewhere else anyway

With regards to Blu? It probably was. We just don't care when he does it.

 

[BigBlackGamer]

pika pika pikachu

 

[MrOctober]

With regards to Blu? It probably was. We just don't care when he does it.

Well it obviously was but he does that all the time to us and it's charming. Then people in here give him shit back and everyone laughs. Rules are rules but this thread operates a little differently unless you only pop in every once in a long while. A running joke out of context looks worse.

 

[TheGreatDave]

The Axe GH controller looks awesome. The other one is shitty and ugly.

 

[Archie]

pika pika pikachu

pikachu sucks psyduck 4 life dude

 

[Baker]

Well it obviously was but he does that all the time to us and it's charming. Then people in here give him shit back and everyone laughs. Rules are rules but this thread operates a little differently unless you only pop in every once in a long while. A running joke out of context looks worse.

"Rules are rules" is what irks me the most. I'm 100% behind gaf having the common human decency mindset when it comes to racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. However, when the matter comes down to "you made fun of something I like," it is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. It's half the reason the gaming side sucks because every official thread has to turn into an "omg goty" orgy.

One thing this thread has taught me is that other people can have vastly different tastes and opinions and still be friends.

 

[GoutPatrol]

The Axe GH controller looks awesome. The other one is shitty and ugly.

Its like you're playing a fucking spaceship.

 

[Space Cadet]

What do you think this statement means in the GDRB manual? I've never seen it stated this way (or maybe I have never really looked):

The Playstation Network key will allow these songs to be played with Rock Band, Rock band 2, and Rock Band 3 via the Playstation Network.

If this isn't poorly worded, does it mean we would have to be online to have access to the Green Day songs?

 

[GM Bullfrog]

The Axe GH controller looks awesome. The other one is shitty and ugly.

I'm with you on this one.

 

[Baker]

The Axe GH controller looks awesome. The other one is shitty and ugly.

I think the standard one looks shitty because it's too small. Double the size and I would prefer it over the axe.

 

[Ridley327]

What do you think this statement means in the GDRB manual? I've never seen it stated this way (or maybe I have never really looked):



If this isn't poorly worded, does it mean we would have to be online to have access to the Green Day songs?

I think it's just redundant language, as in you need PSN in order to export in the first place.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

I think the standard one looks shitty because it's too small. Double the size and I would prefer it over the axe.

It will be interesting to see what other "wings" they come out with.

 

[MrOctober]

"Rules are rules" is what irks me the most. I'm 100% behind gaf having the common human decency mindset when it comes to racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. However, when the matter comes down to "you made fun of something I like," it is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. It's half the reason the gaming side sucks because every official thread has to turn into an "omg goty" orgy.

One thing this thread has taught me is that other people can have vastly different tastes and opinions and still be friends.

I agree completely.


On another note what the fucking fuck at the exclusive rights to Clapton for that fucking piece of shit game? I can see the "because it's a real guitar blah blah blah" bullshit but they have exclusive Dave Matthews and the drummer is the dude in the band with talent. The "swing sticks in the air with no rebound like an asshole" drums are a fucking far cry from "real drums". So eat shit 74 whatever the fuck studios. I look forward to your bankruptcy.

 

[Space Cadet]

I think it's just redundant language, as in you need PSN in order to export in the first place.

That's what I thought as well, but having it after RB3 made me question it. I would hate to have to be online to play DLC in RB3. I don't see that happening but the framing was weird.

I look forward to your bankruptcy.

Or eventual HMX takeover.

 

[Baker]

It will be interesting to see what other "wings" they come out with.

I'm guessing none. Granted I never really go into Gamestop/Best Buy/etc. but since GH3 I think I've only seen one or two new face plates to buy.

I'm holding out for Amazon to hopefully get release date delivery and announce an exclusive wing set that doesn't suck.

 

[Ridley327]

I agree completely.


On another note what the fucking fuck at the exclusive rights to Clapton for that fucking piece of shit game? I can see the "because it's a real guitar blah blah blah" bullshit but they have exclusive Dave Matthews and the drummer is the dude in the band with talent. The "swing sticks in the air with no rebound like an asshole" drums are a fucking far cry from "real drums". So eat shit 74 whatever the fuck studios. I look forward to your bankruptcy.

Those are bitter tears that I can get behind. :lol :lol :lol

Not that I care too terribly much, but I wonder what Kid Rock's excuse is; I know he's been at the forefront of anti-digital music sales.

 

[Space Cadet]

Those are bitter tears that I can get behind. :lol :lol :lol

Not that I care too terribly much, but I wonder what Kid Rock's excuse is; I know he's been at the forefront of anti-digital music sales.

Kid Rock isn't on iTunes? Really?

 

[TheGreatDave]

 

[Space Cadet]

Now that looks like a guy who would play Guitar Hero.

 

[Ridley327]

Kid Rock isn't on iTunes? Really?

His argument is that he doesn't feel its fair that a new band should get the same royalty rates as an established artist; since it's typically a flat rate across the board with iTunes, he won't allow his music to be sold digitally. Strangely, his debut album from 1990 is on iTunes for strange, unexplained reasons.

 

[Baker]

His argument is that he doesn't feel its fair that a new band should get the same royalty rates as an established artist

There are so many things wrong with that statement, especially coming out of Kid Rock's mouth.

 

[Hop]

So we just (like, 20 minutes ago) got word of revised authoring standards for RBN songs.

For whatever reason, we now have to use all five guitar buttons no matter the difficulty. I'm sure there'll be other changes but that's currently the most obvious and nobody's sure why that happened.

 

[Ridley327]

Oh boy, that's sure to turn heads.

 

[MrOctober]

So we just (like, 20 minutes ago) got word of revised authoring standards for RBN songs.

For whatever reason, we now have to use all five guitar buttons no matter the difficulty. I'm sure there'll be other changes but that's currently the most obvious and nobody's sure why that happened.

That's fucking bizarre. The orange button kills people.

 

[BigBlackGamer]

sounds good. that is how they should've been doing it in the first place. I've seen so many players get so fucked up by the orange button but had that been in the picture since the day they picked up the guitar it would have made them better players.

 

[Hop]

And of course it had to go out end-of-day, so we're not going to find out any reasonings or additional details until tomorrow.

 

[Ridley327]

At this point, it has to be RB3-related.

Exciting times!

 

[Archie]

Realtar is going to be amazing.

 

[Rewrite]

Hehehehe. I think that's good news if you ask me. It'll help encourage players to move on to more difficulties and also, it won't make it as boring and easy for them.

I wonder what surprises are in store in the next few days?

 

[Wired All Wrong]

The new standards require that the gem colors (lanes) which are present in Expert are also present in all other difficulties. For most songs, this means that we will require at least one gem color for every color in Medium and Easy.

There might be rare cases where you use less than the full set of gems (or lanes) in Expert. In these cases you would be restricted to the same set of colors in the other difficulties. In other words, in Medium and Easy there should be at least one gem in each lane used in Expert level.

Easy and Medium, in general, should be no harder to play than they were before. There are specific guidelines for difficulty authoring on the individual authoring pages for guitar and drums.

Umm, doesn't most of the difficulty come from moving your hands around? Interesting changes.

 

[ChoklitReign]

So we just (like, 20 minutes ago) got word of revised authoring standards for RBN songs.

For whatever reason, we now have to use all five guitar buttons no matter the difficulty. I'm sure there'll be other changes but that's currently the most obvious and nobody's sure why that happened.

Will that affect RBN songs I've already bought like Even Rats? I love that song but it couldn't be that much more difficult with the orange button, at least on medium. I support the change - it's better to teach newcomers all the buttons now than later.

 

[Ridley327]

I doubt it'll be retroactive for the songs that have already been released. It'd be way too much of an effort to get all of the charters to go back and do everything over.

 

[DuckRacer]

Dookie on guitar... the less said about it, the better.

(I ordered the free 5-10 day shipping from gamestop.com and they overnighted it from Kentucky. <3)

 

[Archie]

Dookie ... the less said about it, the better.

I agree.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Weird decision is weird.

 

[DuckRacer]

I agree.

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[Archie]

I would never say Green Day is a better band than the Beatles, but in the context of playable Rock Band tracks, they are better suited to the game. These songs are just more fun to play than many of the Beatles tunes.

:lol :lol :lol

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Contractual obligation. I think I can change my avatar in about 2 weeks.

 

[AMUSIX]

Hehehehe. I think that's good news if you ask me. It'll help encourage players to move on to more difficulties and also, it won't make it as boring and easy for them.

I wonder what surprises are in store in the next few days?

A lot of awesome stuff...


I swear, with the GH and RB info slowly coming out, it's made so incredibly clear that they are targeting two very different demographics. HMX seems set on making a new music tool, while GH is continuing to refine itself as a toy.

 

[Ridley327]

:lol :lol :lol



Contractual obligation. I think I can change my avatar in about 2 weeks.

I'm sure he's right when it comes to drums.

 

[TheGreatDave]

A lot of awesome stuff...


I swear, with the GH and RB info slowly coming out, it's made so incredibly clear that they are targeting two very different demographics. HMX seems set on making a new music tool, while GH is continuing to refine itself as a toy.

Shame nobody wants a music tool. The entire basis for the genre is "you can play music without having to learn to play music". Harmonix wants to be everything that the audience doesn't want.

 

[Archie]

Shame nobody wants a music tool. The entire basis for the genre is "you can play music without having to learn to play music". Harmonix wants to be everything that the audience doesn't want.

Prove it.

 

[Ridley327]

We don't actually know that anyone doesn't want a music tool. Every other effort has been woefully unsupported due to not having a strong enough presence in the marketplace. Harmonix and MTV Games are entering into what are effectively uncharted waters.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Prove it.

...seriously?

We don't actually know that anyone doesn't want a music tool. Every other effort has been woefully unsupported due to not having a strong enough presence in the marketplace.

...seriously? I'm not saying there's no market for edutainment, but the thing the vast majority of people are going to be playing RB3 for is exactly the same reason why they'll be playing WoR. Regardless of the presentation of the games (and yeah, there's no question GH is trying to be even more video gamey and Harmonix want faux authenticity) the gameplay people play the games for is still identical.

 

[Archie]

We don't actually know that anyone doesn't want a music tool. Every other effort has been woefully unsupported due to not having a strong enough presence in the marketplace. Harmonix and MTV Games are entering into what are effectively uncharted waters.

Well said.

...seriously?

As Ridley said, every attempt at edutainment has been half assed. If RB3 actually delivers, then there might be an untapped audience.

 

[Natakuu]

I'm sure he's right when it comes to drums.

True that. I found TB:RB utterly boring on drums outside of a handful of tracks. It's not like they even need to be hard, I just didn't find the actual rhythms that interesting to play most of the time.

 

[Ridley327]

As Ridley said, every attempt at edutainment has been half assed. If RB3 actually delivers, then there might be an untapped audience.

I don't think they've been half-assed necessarily; the problem is they don't have the kind of support that MTV Games and EA could give them. As a result, they're doomed to be niche from the get-go.

Like I said, no one has really tried going ahead full steam ahead with a concept like this before; it is effectively a brand new idea for the genre.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I don't think they've been half-assed necessarily; the problem is they don't have the kind of support that MTV Games and EA could give them. As a result, they're doomed to be niche from the get-go.

Like I said, no one has really tried going ahead full steam ahead with a concept like this before; it is effectively a brand new idea for the genre.

The genre is based on not having to be able to play a real instrument. c/d?

 

[Hop]

And even with the last few years, that's been the defining difference in philosophy. Rock Band is music software that plays like a game, Guitar Hero is a video game that happens to use music. Once you realize that, everything from aesthetic designs to authoring styles to GHTunes vs. RBN all make sense.