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I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to play hard guitar now. There are only two, I repeat, TWO, songs that I can hit 90%+ of the notes: Today (thanks to the sparing use of orange) and In Bloom. All the other Tier 0 songs are 70-80%: a passing grade in real-life but not in Rock Band - it's stupid. The speed isn't the problem (I've played well on medium with hyperspeed but I don't prefer it) but basically everything else is: the number of notes, required alt-strumming, mindfucking chord changes. These charts make zero sense for a beginner. I use the GHWT guitar and, goddamn, the buttons are horrible for sliding. Their tiny-ass sizes and huge gaps between them make me wonder how the fuck the pros prefer it.

I'm sick of neutered medium charts (read: every single solo) and HMX treating players like me as second-class citizens with RB3's rumored Pro difficulty instead of bridging the huge gap between medium and hard. I want a new difficulty with the orange note but the speed and note density of medium - intermediate if you will. Why doesn't HMX give a fuck?

Hurrr, practice more, you'll say. Well for how long? How many songs is it gonna take? How many times do I have to play each song? Is it worth it? I just want to have fun and play with other people my age. I thought RB was a learning process, but maybe it is entirely about skill, which I mostly lack.
 
A few questions; Can you hold a beat on your own? As in if the notes were strictly green could you shut your eyes and play them correctly? Also how do you have your fingers on the keys? If the orange notes are killing you you should try always having your pinky on orange and using your pointer finger for both green and red. Generally it moves faster.

Are you having fun trying to move up? If not it's not worth it really. Why play a video game if it's not fun? If you are having fun it doesn't matter how long it takes. And eventually it will just click and you'll wonder what you ever found hard in the first place. All of us have hit walls and gone "Yeah I'll never be able to do that." and now most of that shit is easy as hell.
 
MrOctober said:
A few questions; Can you hold a beat on your own? As in if the notes were strictly green could you shut your eyes and play them correctly? Also how do you have your fingers on the keys? If the orange notes are killing you you should try always having your pinky on orange and using your pointer finger for both green and red. Generally it moves faster.

Are you having fun trying to move up? If not it's not worth it really. Why play a video game if it's not fun? If you are having fun it doesn't matter how long it takes. And eventually it will just click and you'll wonder what you ever found hard in the first place. All of us have hit walls and gone "Yeah I'll never be able to do that." and now most of that shit is easy as hell.
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Agree with that, pinky on orange... I started playing GH3 on easy and only transitionned to medium when RB2 came out.
After being able to 90% most of the songs on medium I transitionned to HArd and was being killed on nearly every song (except in bloom loll).

After a month of trying on and off I reverted back to medium but praticed with playing with only 3 finger, index on red. AS soon as I was able to do that on 4-5* song with ease I reverted back to hard and it clicked right away.

I still mostly play drums and play play guitar about once a month so it is not like I have much training but even with that much training I still progress, yesterday I was able to complete 4 out of 5 songs on hard devilish tier (metallica, kansas, ....) And I'm able to play most of the songs on expert up to tier 3/4 . So even with no training it does not go away it just improves. I'm pretty confident to be able to start playing expert guitar only on RB3 (As I do with drums and bass, vox I won't ever be able to do that).

Edit: I also use a GHWT guitar
 
Transitioning from medium to hard takes just a little bit of time to get used to. I'm kinda in the same boat now when it comes from going to expert from hard. I can pass like 75% of songs on expert (from the regular RB2 setlist) but when the harder songs start getting solo heavy I'm toast.

Only advice I can give is to learn to anchor on green or red depending on what is coming and be able to switch between then quickly and often. I find that much easier than trying to hit the orange with my pinky while my index is on green. And maybe try headphones to see if that makes it any easier to pick up on beats/offbeats. I can't even hear myself when playing with a GH controller due to the loud ass clicking, and do horribly. When I switch back to my RB2 guitar things go much better.
 
Play the GH3 setlist from the start and concentrate more on adjusting to the new tempo/extra chords and only worry about oranges once you're comfortable with the new speed. I assume you can do the same thing with the RB1 setlist, but I wouldn't know :lol
 
Nisa65 said:
Season 5 one wasn't all that great tbh.
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I love all of them. I can't pick a favorite.

also Wire spoilerz
What the fucking fuck at Omar's death. I just watched that episode and fuck I'm pretty pissed about it although I understand that he can't single handedly do all of the police work in Baltimore and the show aims for realism so realistically a dude like that winds up dead but fuck I wanted a happy ending for him so bad. And not to get taken out by a little kid. Fuck.
 
DuckRacer said:
Until you get to Woman.
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Woman will kick your ass, but the bulk of the notes are three colors and there are only two different patterns you need to play to pass the song. It's not overwhelming, so the more you practice the better you will get.
 
MrOctober said:
I love all of them. I can't pick a favorite.

also Wire spoilerz
What the fucking fuck at Omar's death. I just watched that episode and fuck I'm pretty pissed about it although I understand that he can't single handedly do all of the police work in Baltimore and the show aims for realism so realistically a dude like that winds up dead but fuck I wanted a happy ending for him so bad. And not to get taken out by a little kid. Fuck.
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Yea kinda sucks how that went down, so unexpected.
 
MrOctober said:
I love all of them. I can't pick a favorite.

also Wire spoilerz
What the fucking fuck at Omar's death. I just watched that episode and fuck I'm pretty pissed about it although I understand that he can't single handedly do all of the police work in Baltimore and the show aims for realism so realistically a dude like that winds up dead but fuck I wanted a happy ending for him so bad. And not to get taken out by a little kid. Fuck.
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Omar was easily my favourite character, badly wanted to see him fuck up Marlo and was shocked when the kid shot him. Michael pretty much becomes the next Omar once he leaves Marlo's crew.
 
Nisa65 said:
Omar was easily my favourite character, badly wanted to see him fuck up Marlo and was shocked when the kid shot him. Michael pretty much becomes the next Omar once he leaves Marlo's crew.
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Yep, They were supposed to have Omar finished with by Season 1, but fans liked him so they kept him around. I love Brother Mouzone though.
 
I spent an entire summer on GH1 going from Easy, to Medium, to Hard, and then Expert. Of course, I was going to school full-time and didn't have a kid yet so it was easy to do.

Best summer since I was little.

The GHII Achievements annoy me because it's been so long since I've had to play Easy, Medium, or Hard.
 
GH2 actually has difficulty progression though. Early tier feels like early tier, mid tier feels like mid tier and high tier feels like high tier. In RB1 everything except the last two tiers feels like early tier.
 
corkscrewblow said:
yea, no

GH2 or GH3. I learned on GH2 so that's my choice.
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No, he's right. The setlist was a great way in teaching how to play every instrument in harder difficulties the more you progressed. I already knew how to play Expert due to Guitar Hero III and to some extent Guitar Hero II, but I think we have to look at it in the eyes of new players. For the new players, it's an excellent way of getting to know how to play Expert guitar in Rock Band 1.

All it takes is practice so practice up, ChoklitReign! If you really want to move from Medium to Hard (which is 100x better in my opinion and I know everyone will agree with this transition), you should play Guitar Hero III. Honestly, play Medium in GH III, master it...and you'll see that Hard isn't that bad in Rock Band. I think that's the best way in learning how to move the difficulty curve.
 
ravien56 said:
Yep, They were supposed to have Omar finished with by Season 1, but fans liked him so they kept him around. I love Brother Mouzone though.
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I don't think Mouzone was fleshed out enough really.
and I like the idea of Micheal being the new Omar. Man I really wanted to see Omar handle his business.
 
corkscrewblow said:
GH2 actually has difficulty progression though. Early tier feels like early tier, mid tier feels like mid tier and high tier feels like high tier. In RB1 everything except the last two tiers feels like early tier.
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So does RB1. You were just already at expert by that point, so you thought the early tiers were garbage, and the higher tiers were garbage too.
 
ChoklitReign said:
I'm sick of neutered medium charts (read: every single solo) and HMX treating players like me as second-class citizens with RB3's rumored Pro difficulty instead of bridging the huge gap between medium and hard. I want a new difficulty with the orange note but the speed and note density of medium - intermediate if you will. Why doesn't HMX give a fuck?
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Son of a gun you read my mind. It's like I need an intermediate step between the difficulties. Give me charts that don't need spread two note and three note chords, give me charts that introduce me to the orange note!
 
Rewrite said:
No, he's right. The setlist was a great way in teaching how to play every instrument in harder difficulties the more you progressed. I already knew how to play Expert due to Guitar Hero III and to some extent Guitar Hero II, but I think we have to look at it in the eyes of new players. For the new players, it's an excellent way of getting to know how to play Expert guitar in Rock Band 1.

All it takes is practice so practice up, ChoklitReign! If you really want to move from Medium to Hard (which is 100x better in my opinion and I know everyone will agree with this transition), you should play Guitar Hero III. Honestly, play Medium in GH III, master it...and you'll see that Hard isn't that bad in Rock Band. I think that's the best way in learning how to move the difficulty curve.
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I've also found that by playing a higher tier on Bass allows you to play lower tier on guitar more easily. For instance, play expert on bass in RB and hard on guitar will be much simpler. Bass expert isn't as hard as it sounds since the chord changes aren't usually as drastic. You get used to the higher speed and the note combinations are easier than on expert guitar. At least that's how I moved up to hard guitar.
 
aristotle said:
I've also found that by playing a higher tier on Bass allows you to play lower tier on guitar more easily. For instance, play expert on bass in RB and hard on guitar will be much simpler. Bass expert isn't as hard as it sounds since the chord changes aren't usually as drastic. You get used to the higher speed and the note combinations are easier than on expert guitar. At least that's how I moved up to hard guitar.
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Good tips.
 
Alright, so I'm gonna try these tips:
-The 3-finger method
-Play sections w/ my eyes closed
-Buy GH2

I don't really wanto to play RB1. I have like a fifth of all songs deleted because I hated their charts, but I'll give it a shot if it really has a better learning curve. I'm going to take a break anyway; my tour band lost 200K fans during a London concert because of a dumb tour challenge.
 
I wasn't telling you to play with your eyes closed :lol. I was just wondering if it was a rhythm problem.

I'm not trying to be mean but a certain timing is needed to play.
 
MrOctober said:
I wasn't telling you to play with your eyes closed :lol. I was just wondering if it was a rhythm problem.

I'm not trying to be mean but a certain timing is needed to play.
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I can't even keep a steady rhythm with my eyes open. I'll always screw up on long sections of the same note, depending on the speed.
 
XShagrath said:
So does RB1. You were just already at expert by that point, so you thought the early tiers were garbage, and the higher tiers were garbage too.
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not really because I still find early GH2 tiers fun, albeit super easy. There's only a couple of songs I just refuse to play (hello, Heart Shaped Box)
 
aristotle said:
Would, but I can only play on hard if I'm lucky.
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^no prob I play on hard as welll
PSN is Porkepik, send me an invite

Or what is your PSN, I can play Hard/expert guitar, expert bass or drums but i don't mind at all if you want to play on medium/hard, just want to play a bunch of song before going to bed
 
anybody who will play drums for the first time should buy RB1, its progression is just perfect...to the point that Wont Get Fooled Again feels like the "graduation" song.

aristotle said:
I've also found that by playing a higher tier on Bass allows you to play lower tier on guitar more easily. For instance, play expert on bass in RB and hard on guitar will be much simpler. Bass expert isn't as hard as it sounds since the chord changes aren't usually as drastic. You get used to the higher speed and the note combinations are easier than on expert guitar. At least that's how I moved up to hard guitar.
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now that is a smart tip.

I really tried to get better on guitar...but I reached a level where I felt I didnt get any better despite how much I played...

Somebody who can play and at least 5 star the Rust in Peace songs should feel like the king of the world.
 
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