Another victory for Jeff "eight point eight" Gertsmann
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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...
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This frightens me
Toejam2501
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Didnt know Meg Turney was a "gaming personality". Thought she was some sort of "nerd underwear model" if thats a thing
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Another situation that could have been just nullified if somebody from RT said something like "Yeah, we realise our critic was poorly worded blablabla every right to give the game whatever blablabla sorry 
"
And nobody would care. Instead of......this
"And nobody would care. Instead of......this
Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.
Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)
Sun Bather
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I think they are brave and not afraid of anything. Not afraid to stand up to negative reviews. Not afraid to wear their pipboys and talk positively about Bethesda. They might be afraid of eating cheese, but we all got out negative sides.
They seem to not like www.gamebomb.ru
No surprise seeing as Jeff Gerstmann ripped off gamebomb, and on top of that, gamebomb have their reviews out months, sometimes full years, before giantbomb and the rest of the press.
They seem to not like www.gamebomb.ru
No surprise seeing as Jeff Gerstmann ripped off gamebomb, and on top of that, gamebomb have their reviews out months, sometimes full years, before giantbomb and the rest of the press.
Fried Food
Banned
I watched the rooster teeth video and it's not nearly as bad as I was expecting, not even close, in terms of their comments on Jeff. The guy would made the wine and cheese remark pretty much redeemed himself to me with his following remarks.
Now GB superfans have got Jeff going on tumblr almost making more of this then it deserves.
Now GB superfans have got Jeff going on tumblr almost making more of this then it deserves.
MrJoobJoob
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Another victory for Jeff "eight point eight" Gertsmann
Agh!
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Didn't Rooster Teeth host the YouTube stage at E3 this year? Not like they are some unknown company...
They are a production company now and bigger than they have ever been. I love them to death but they need to shhhhh on this one.
They are a production company now and bigger than they have ever been. I love them to death but they need to shhhhh on this one.
Another victory for Jeff "eight point eight" Gertsmann
Love it! 10/10!
EdibleExplosives
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Love RT but yeah, rolled my eyes during this section, even though I barely ever agree with GB/Jeff.
OverBlood 3
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Another victory for Jeff "eight point eight" Gertsmann
Disturbing.
Greg is a top guy, never copped a dolla from corporations.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Typical. Put another person's name in your mouth to get pub.
The Rooster Teeth guys (sans a few) are hired entirely based on their humour and personalities. I'm not sure I would go as far to call them "gaming journalists" - unless their site's content has changed since last time I checked.
Jeff said he heard about shady shit going on with the European press in the 90s.
Continue not showing any proof though.
You do realise Jeff doesn't even hate Yoshi right. He just sees Yoshi as a utility you can freely discard. His supposed hate for the character is just a joke. Jesus Christ man.
Now about the topic at hand. There is no problem with disagreeing with a review, even when decked out in sponsored gear.
The problem here is that they implied a reviewer's integrity was questionable just because they didn't agree with the grade he gave it. Worst of all, they then reaffirmed it!
I really hope GBWest will have wine and cheese on deck for UPF.
Karak
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Here is the very sad thing. Many reviewers have no clue what someone else is going to rate something. They just don't have the time or desire to find out by seeking someone out prior to the embargo and many times after an embargo move to another game.
It is so odd to pretend that many of these guys have esp and know what exact score something else will rate a title at. And even if they just assume a game will get high ratings, for years we have seen that isn't always the case.
In the majority of cases this comes across as people uneducated in differing opinions that fall back on 3rd grader arguments because they can't foot a proper and well thought out response. That is of course, if a response or comment is even needed.
It is so odd to pretend that many of these guys have esp and know what exact score something else will rate a title at. And even if they just assume a game will get high ratings, for years we have seen that isn't always the case.
In the majority of cases this comes across as people uneducated in differing opinions that fall back on 3rd grader arguments because they can't foot a proper and well thought out response. That is of course, if a response or comment is even needed.
They actually had Jeff on as a guest which makes it all the more puzzling that they would say they don't know him.
Miami Danger
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Oh shit I forgot about Gamebomb isn't that Drew's side project?
FranXico
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As someone who doesn't even like GiantBomb, I actually thought Gerstmann's opinion on Fallout 4 much far more honest than that from most journalists.
EdibleExplosives
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Lol? I disagree with what they said but I don't think Jeff is gonna give RT any substantial publicity. They're pretty fucking huge compared to GB.
matrixman92
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yikes, that was embarrassing to watch.
Probably gonna get beaten to the punch, but that's the PC review. The console review was 3/5. In any case, Jeff gave valid reasons for the lower score (technical performance is REALLY important in games, is it not?), so RT is more or less just embarrassing themselves at this point.
What's the point of this post? You think Jeff is a killjoy, but that has NOTHING to do with his complaints of Fallout 4's performance on consoles. Don't just use this thread as a dumping ground for how much you dislike/hate Jeff.
Haunted
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Have you seen GB's bomb? It's not that large. Certainly wouldn't call it giant.
false advertising all around
The Blackrose
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Another victory for Jeff "eight point eight" Gertsmann
Damn. Daimon slimmed down.
Watching the RT video felt two steps away from another round of Gears of War 2 being almost too good.
Metalingus5150
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As much as I like roosterteeth. I don't take their reviews or anything like this serious because they are really uninformed on a lot of things within gaming. They're solely entertainment for me.
Trojita
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Probably worth mentioning the founder of RT seems to have a lot of respect for Gerstmann, and they've been on each other's panels. This looks like an uninformed cosplayer said something dumb, and the other guys went with it.
Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)
I find the fact that he states he didn't know who Jeff was a little suspect. If you were anywhere near video game journalism or websites you heard about the Kane & Lynch II fiasco.
That's more of a joke than anything else.
robertlebrone
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I don't care about reviews one way or the other but if this guy wants to give Fallout 4 a 3/5 for technical issues I can't really blame him. I can't even use terminals without my game locking up unless I force my framerate through a 3rd party program. That's ridiculous.
Are you serious? They are sitting decked out in F4 paraphernalia. Having made Fallout 4 advertisement videos. Waxing lyrical about how awesome they think the game is.
They are literally -
*snip*
paid shills.
And I dont even like Giantbomb.
Rooster Teeth are not shills. They may be liars, pigs, idiots, shills... but they are NOT porn stars.
Mr. Nice_Guy
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Nice response from Jeff. I don't always agree with him, but at least he doesn't sound like a complete shill. I liked RT back in the day, but stopped following them years ago. Didn't know they ended up like this. Sounds way different from how the Drunk Tank used to be.
Yep, really bizzare
I used to listened to the patch but dropped off. boy did it get bad quick.
Miami Danger
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How dare you call Drew's side project a joke.
RT were absolutely wrong about this. I generally enjoy their podcasts, but Fallout 4 deserves to be shit on for it's technical failings. Fuck the Bethesda apologists too who seem to think this is acceptable time and time again.
Then again, they are notorious Microsoft apologists, and I doubt their overlords in Seattle would be happy with them having anything bad to say about a game MS had a marketing deal for. They had nothing to say about Polygon's TLOU review for example.
That being said, GAF hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in this thread either. The hypocrisy is incredible from some in here.
Then again, they are notorious Microsoft apologists, and I doubt their overlords in Seattle would be happy with them having anything bad to say about a game MS had a marketing deal for. They had nothing to say about Polygon's TLOU review for example.
That being said, GAF hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in this thread either. The hypocrisy is incredible from some in here.
Haunted
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In terms of parent companies, Rooster Teeth certainly has Giantbomb beat.
AT&T is much bigger than CBS Corporation.
OverBlood 3
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His follow up comment is worse than anything said in the video in question.
Which as a private eye leads me to believe this guy is a real dum dum.
Which as a private eye leads me to believe this guy is a real dum dum.
Chinese Cartoons
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I love/loved fallout 4 it did a lot of good things but it also has faults and last time I checked people had opinions and points were subjective? attacking people over it is childish.
Miami Danger
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Fallout 4 is a great game but my god it deserves criticism on its performance. I have a decent rig and it still runs like shit in some towns.
Also when did 4/5 stars become a bad score?
Also when did 4/5 stars become a bad score?
matrixman92
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I didnt really know who she was, so I googled her. Literally right on top of the page on google are only pictures of her in underwear. The term used is "internet personality" I guess.
elvisaintdead
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This just serves as a reminder that Rooster Teeth is about as relevant to real video game discussion as internet commenters.
Well, its important that Bethesda games have really bad technical performance, its what makes them great games.... at least, that's the type of shit I've been reading all week.
Hahaha.
Got to say, as a fan of both GB and RT, this is hilarious. Back during E3, it was awesome to see Jeff and Burnie interact with each other's shows. And this hubbub is amazing.
Honestly, we'll probably forget about it after a few days, probably when game of the year stuff starts to roll around. It's just that meaningless.
Got to say, as a fan of both GB and RT, this is hilarious. Back during E3, it was awesome to see Jeff and Burnie interact with each other's shows. And this hubbub is amazing.
Honestly, we'll probably forget about it after a few days, probably when game of the year stuff starts to roll around. It's just that meaningless.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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And Jeff had Bernie on their stage! And they seemed to have a ton of mutual respect for one another, even saying it was amazing they had never met but they always respected one another as industry vets, even if its slightly diffferent industries.
This right here is a bummer. I wish I could hear Bernie talk on it. I have a shit load of respect.
Drunk Tank lives on, it's just the general Rooster Teeth podcast now, this is from another podcast under one of their other channels.
I think Rooster Teeth as a company is big enough that it's not unreasonable that they'd have employees who don't know who Jeff Gerstmann is. I don't even think Ryan was at E3 to have met him, and he certainly wouldn't have been one of the people on Giant Bombs content.
Ranger Taffles
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This is just a hot mess. I mean the fact they tried to justify over those silly comments makes it far worse. Pretty much badly misinformed. Also the wearing those pip-boys .... ugh.
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