Shadow2222
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Wow, Rooster Teeth. Haven't seen them mentioned in a while. I used to be a huge fan of Red vs Blue when I was younger. I didn't even realize they were still making it.
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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...
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Clairvoyance
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Exactly. I'm a huge fan, but I avoid their opinions on most games like the plague.
Messofanego
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Still a threat.
There seems to be a bit of crying over their comments though. Seems some overreaction from both sides
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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This type of bullshit drama is a big of why I turned my nose up at professional reviews for games. Seeing people firm cliques over numbers and encoraging the 7-9 scale is just the most cringe inducing nonsense.
"Look at that snug bitch saying something was 80% good instead of 90, we've got a rebel here" - Are you serious?
"Look at that snug bitch saying something was 80% good instead of 90, we've got a rebel here" - Are you serious?
JumpCancel
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Agreed.
They lost touch when they tried to do any and everything. Stick to what you're good at, not what's popular. That way you get to keep your soul.
Funhaus is actually part of Rooster Teeth and they were part of Machinima before that.
Well I'll be damned.
Hilarious. On the bombcast this week Jeff and Brad have a great discussion about how standards change over time. Fallout 4 may be a great game (I haven't played it) but for it to exist with as many janky bugs and techincal problems as it apparently has, that just doesn't scream 4/5 or 5/5 to me at this point.
DICKS AHOY
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Unless I'm missing your point it shouldn't be particularly surprising Giant Bomb has a significantly bigger fanbase and benefit of the doubt than Kotaku.
You'd think people would be fine with reviewers properly splitting up their reviews between versions for a Bethesda game of all things after what happened with the PS3 version of Skyrim.
Alex
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Nothing says genuine and "from the heart" like the manufactured hype train stupidity that permeates this hobby. People get off on that shit and really take poorly to any form of derailing.
That goes deep into the culture though, that's an everywhere thing including this site and our consistent review thread embarrassments.
chaobreaker
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I really didn't want to chime in on this whole dumb debacle, but after seeing this...
Man, what an asshole. How dumb do you have to be to think "journalists sometimes give low scores for attention" is a salient point? How old is this guy holy shit.
Even the RT community savaged them over it. Here's Ryan's response in their subreddit where he doubles-down (check the downvotes)
Man, what an asshole. How dumb do you have to be to think "journalists sometimes give low scores for attention" is a salient point? How old is this guy holy shit.
FrontalMonk
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When a bunch of people sit around a table wearing their pip-boys bitching about "why isn't fallout 4 reviewed EVEN HIGHER" I can't even begin to take them seriously.
Maiden Voyage
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Wow. Rooster Teeth look real bad here.
I don't understand how invested people are with review scores. Who cares what someone else thinks of a game? It doesn't make it any less or more enjoyable.
I don't understand how invested people are with review scores. Who cares what someone else thinks of a game? It doesn't make it any less or more enjoyable.
Haunted
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Sounds like you're too deep into it. Take a step back, look at the business realities and reevaluate your stance.
Youtube media company personalities being paid by publishers to have a certain opinion, being tasked to spread this to their followers and "speaking from the heart" are pretty much mutually exclusive.
People calling out Jeff Gerstmann on review scores cracks me up. The dude is the straightest shooter in the industry and seems to be one of the few people on the planet who is completely immune to hype. He calls it how it is and doesn't overlook flaws in games just because he is excited to play something.
The reaction those Rooster Teeth people had to Gerstmann's review was pretty damn lame, especially considering their close relationship to the game's marketing, but so is this really weird TMZ-style thread and OP.
what's the purpose of stirring shit further. Gerstmann's response should have been the end of things.
what's the purpose of stirring shit further. Gerstmann's response should have been the end of things.
They're making moves recently that suggest they're getting restless with their current structure, so fans were expecting some kind of acquisition since ScrewAttack got absorbed (I think). Instead they went Patreon, which hasn't hit their preferred mark of $7000.
They're warranted when we don't see numbers below 7/10 being used.
That a game gets an 8 or a 9 tells me nothing about how good it is with games, and that's unfortunate. I don't feel most games warrant an 'excellent' or higher rating, and that's what we mostly get now from the big journo outfits.
Messofanego
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Still one of the best GFW bits.
https://youtu.be/N0JPn7KK6TA
Whenever people get incensed about review scores, I watch that segment and Adam Sessler Killzone 2 mailbag.
Do you have a concussion dog? You seem to be very confused at what is going on here
Nestunt
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I love how that spirit has been influencing Dan Ryckert
I find his reviews in GB way stronger than the ones on Game Informer
Anton Sugar
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Lost it at "arugula eating dirt bag." Not sure why, but cheers.
In other news, all these games journalism threads today have just made me want to support GB and Kotaku more.
JinjoUnchained
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I meant contrast between Rooster Teeth and Kotaku. The implication here being that RT is shilling for Bethesda while Kotaku reported unfavorable news about them and lost access to review copies.
Agree to disagree. I find him I have the most honest opinion about games. That's why I love the giant bomb crew. They don't gush about everything. Other podcasts are a bunch of guys stroking their joysticks saying, "omg this game looks soooo gooooooooooood."
DICKS AHOY
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If Red Letter Media (not to shit on them, I just figured they were smaller than Mega64 views-wise) can get over $13,000 through Patreon, I'm surprised Mega64 haven't managed to raise that much through the service. I would've figured their fanbase was still pretty huge.
Same, helps that they don't really put themselves in a position where their opinions on games and movies or anything is demanding attention or has any clout. They don't do reviews or anything, and they've talked about why they stopped doing reviews in the past. A creator got pissed about a negative review they gave and posted on of the RT (technically pre RT) employee's information online and started threatening him. And then later once they started making their own content realized how reviews affect creators and decided not to do it anymore.
When they give their opinions on games and stuff I usually treat it like a coworker or something talking about what they've been playing. I may be interested, or I may just be happy for them that they found something they enjoy, but generally I know what I want to play and will get to it when I please.
SlasherJPC
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I don't think anyone should be berating anyone review work ideally, but I've seen Giantbomb do the same to smaller sites before too. Sucks.
I didn't know who rooster teeth was before this. Lol I guess
Piston Hyundai
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To be fair, I missed a post from the guy I quoted saying he didn't realize that there were two different scores.
You can't be serious. "Speak from the heart"? I know practically nothing about RT, but how could you not tell what's going on by just watching that video? It's blatantly obvious.
petethepanda
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Whether it's games, movies or pretty much any media, the "if you don't like something popular as much as I do it must be because you're trying to be different" thing is just frigging obnoxious.
opticalmace
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I didn't know who they were before this giant bomb thing. It happens.
Yeah, it's not like Jeff is known for getting in trouble because he speaks from the heart.
Wait
BulletBees
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Jeff doesn't give a fuck. The dude likes what he likes and isn't afraid to say it. Yeah okay, sure, I'll take the opinion of Rooster Teeth on Fallout 4 after I'm sure they got paid by Bethesda to do all those videos. Bah.
I liked Fallout 4 a lot more than Jeff but I respect his opinion.
Giantbomb all day, son!
I liked Fallout 4 a lot more than Jeff but I respect his opinion.
Giantbomb all day, son!
Nestunt
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that is a well constructed statement =)
Haunted
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Game Informer has very different goals than giantbomb.
It's not a surprise that Ryckert would adjust his writing accordingly - or maybe it's more apt to say, to not adjust his writing anymore.
Psychoward
Banned
lol
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Funny, Rooster Teeth now owns Funhaus.
I LOOOOOVE Rooster Teeth on an entertainment level. I don't really care about their games coverage beyond just hearing about computer games I wouldn't know about.
3rdamention
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Interesting. THere have been sites/reviewers giving games low scores, that overall received high scores, for YEARS. Yet Rooster Teeth never says anything about those reviewers.
But when its Fallout 4, they make a big deal out of it. Yeah, VERY interesting.
But when its Fallout 4, they make a big deal out of it. Yeah, VERY interesting.
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