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[∀ Narayan]

I saw The Dark Knight twice and there wasn't any fucking clapping.

The reason for this is due to the amount of awesome in The Dark Knight. Humans aren't used to having their mind fucking blown on such a level, so, naturally - they're left speechless. There aren't enough words to properly portray how good that film is after seeing it for the first time or, Hell, even the second or third time. I re-watched it on BluRay not too long ago, and all I could say was "... Damn." :lol

 

[Solo]

The reason for this is due to the amount of awesome in The Dark Knight.

No, the reason for this is because TDK isnt a crowd pleaser. Its a great movie, but not one that ends with thunderous applause. For the record, Ive only experienced clapping 3 times in 20 some years of moviegoing. Jurassic Park, Spider-Man 2, and Inglourious Basterds. Odd mix, but they are all crowd pleasers.

 

[cory]

I did this from memory, but I was not happy when this ugliness popped up on screen.

 

[∀ Narayan]

No, the reason for this is because TDK isnt a crowd pleaser.

Disagree. I saw The Dark Knight three times while it was in theaters and there was clapping at the end of every showing.

 

[DMczaf]

I clap at the end of TDK everytime I see it.

 

[shintoki]

Disagree. I saw The Dark Knight three times while it was in theaters and there was clapping at the end of every showing.

Fuckers by me just seem to enjoy clapping. Almost for every Blockbuster. Yes...Transformers 2 probably had the loudest all year. :lol

 

[Solo]

Disagree. I saw The Dark Knight three times while it was in theaters and there was clapping at the end of every showing.

TDK is basically the anti crowd pleaser. Its a downer ending, not an uplifting one.

 

[Memles]

No, the reason for this is because TDK isnt a crowd pleaser. Its a great movie, but not one that ends with thunderous applause. For the record, Ive only experienced clapping 3 times in 20 some years of moviegoing. Jurassic Park, Spider-Man 2, and Inglourious Basterds. Odd mix, but they are all crowd pleasers.

People clapped for Avatar in my screening, although it was only a small group. You never know what will inspire people to take their hands and push them together with some amount of course - might be involuntary.

 

[∀ Narayan]

TDK is basically the anti crowd pleaser. Its a downer ending, not an uplifting one.

But the film is fucking fantastic. That alone is enough justification to clap at the end of the show.

The crowd was definitely pleased when I saw it.

 

[user_nat]

I don't think I have ever seen clapping at a movie.

Even when I've been there on the first day.

 

[Solo]

But the film is fucking fantastic. That alone is enough justification to clap at the end of the show.

Again, yes, the movie is great, Im not arguing otherwise

Spoiler

until I want to get DM, jett or any of the GAF Bats crew going

. Im just saying that my experience is that the movies that illicit a response of thunderous applause and generally ones that end on an emotional high.

 

[mrkgoo]

No one knows. But he could make the next one surprisingly fast once he has a script. The tech is done, the casting is in place, all he needs to do is shoot it and then theres the months of post.

Ill venture a guess of SUMMER 2012.

You forget that just because the tech is in place doesn't mean they shouldn't innovate. In fact, there's probably more pressure for them to one-up the first. Even tech-wise.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

People clapped for Avatar in my screening, although it was only a small group. You never know what will inspire people to take their hands and push them together with some amount of course - might be involuntary.

Yea, we only had 4-5 people clapping which died down when nobody else joined in I guess.

I could see a lot of people around me were impatiently waiting for the end, which everybody was expecting to deliver big time with the tech being used for the movie.

But the film is fucking fantastic. That alone is enough justification to clap at the end of the show.

The crowd was definitely pleased when I saw it.

Same here. And it wasn't just the clapping, but just overhearing comments on the movie was awesome.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

I saw this for the second time last night and it was definitely a much more enjoyable experience than the first. I saw it at 9:30pm and the cinema was pretty much packed. They even had to delay it 15 minutes for latecomers (yay for allocated seating!)

It might have been because I knew exactly what to expect or I had a better idea/wasn’t so focused on the 3D (the 3D impressed me more this time by the way!) but I just appreciated the movie so much more, and instead of weaknesses showing through, I thought its strengths came out more for my second viewing. Things that I enjoyed more this time was the score (when Jake follows Neytiri when they first meet = <3 – the score went from good to outstanding overall), the stories execution, Jake and Neytiri’s interactions, and the pacing - near perfection (I just wish that the

Spoiler

destruction of the home-tree

was a part of the last battle – which in my opinion the

Spoiler

destruction of the home-tree

is one of the most spectacular, well shot/emotional pieces of cinema I have ever seen!)

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

The entire crowd went nuts at the end of my AVATAR screening. The last movie for that to happen was Inglourious Basterds, however I chalk that up to Tarantino being there with the cast (was the Sydney red carpet Premiere).

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Yeah, you have to love that for all of Emmerich's work and effects destroying THE WORLD, the destruction of a fucking tree was more epic when coming from Cameron.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Things to see in a sequel:

1) Winter.

2) Under the planet surface.

3) Espionage

4) Inter tribal war

5) Under water

6) Other sentient creatures

7) Plants sent to earth

8) The planet producing weapons

7) Hometree, Death Star 2 version

 

[AnkitT]

Two tickets booked for tonight, one in 2D and one in 3D! Gonna watch it alone this time, so it should be better.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

I know that the humans will be back in the sequel because I know Fox will want them there. I don't know how they'll do it, though; clearly, since this is a franchise movie, they'll want the same characters back (Jake and Neytiri, at the very least), but if the 12 year time skip happens, those characters would maybe be a bit past their prime, age-wise. I guess they'll just have to write around the time skip somehow.

 

[Solo]

Things to see in a sequel:

1) Winter.


5) Under water

These are my 2 must haves.

 

[BowieZ]

Spoiler

In the beginning of the movie they say the navi are incredibly hard to kill. They seem to go down pretty easy with a couple bullets. Least Tsutey goes down quickly. Found that a bit odd.

I thought that just meant one man vs. one Navi was certain death for the man... but an army of Navi vs. a fucking human artillery is a bit more evenly matched.

 

[crazy monkey]

Things to see in a sequel:

1) Winter.

2) Under the planet surface.

3) Espionage

4) Inter tribal war

5) Under water

6) Other sentient creatures

7) Plants sent to earth

8) The planet producing weapons

7) Hometree, Death Star 2 version

better more imaginative creature design.
no more shiny dogs.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

"Battle Angel" does not start with "T" or "A". Cannot be a Cameron movie.

Spoiler

he'll just call it Alita:lol

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

These are my 2 must haves.

Oh you just know Cameron can't wait to get into the marine life of Pandora. :lol

 

[BowieZ]

I thought the message was primarily about terrorism. The main tree being the Twin Towers.

no.

Yes.

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no.

I don't think you actually saw the movie, then.

"Fight terrorism with terrorism"? "Shock-and-awe campaign"? Blowing up the tall "tree" where everyone lived and seeing them crying in shock after? For the purposes of the Americans profiting from natural obtainium deposits?

Pretty sure that beyond the superficial nature theme that the message was all about getting us to leave our bodies and be empathetic with those whose lives we destroy for profit, and getting us to think twice about how we call their 1:1 retalliation "terrorism".

 

[Combine]

I thought that just meant one man vs. one Navi was certain death for the man... but an army of Navi vs. a fucking human artillery is a bit more evenly matched.

That's pretty much it. The size difference alone is enough to render any melee fight between a human and a Na'vi completely mismatched. Without the guns, humans wouldn't stand a chance. Hell, a long-ranged fight is also bad for the humans without a good weapon since the Na'vi arrows are practically one-shot kills.

 

[Solo]

5200+ posts. TDK aside, this might be the biggest Rottenwatch I can recall at GAF.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

"Fight terrorism with terrorism"? "Shock-and-awe campaign"? Blowing up the tall "tree" where everyone lived and seeing them crying in shock after? For the purposes of the Americans profiting from natural obtainium deposits?

Pretty sure that beyond the superficial nature theme that the message was all about getting us to leave our bodies and be empathetic with those whose lives we destroy for profit, and getting us to think twice about how we call their 1:1 retalliation "terrorism".

You thought the Home Tree was representative of the two towers. :lol

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

5200+ posts. TDK aside, this might be the biggest Rottenwatch I can recall at GAF.

It is bigger than TDK Rottenwatch.

 

[StuBurns]

People keep saying the two towers, is it meant to be the twin towers or are you actually talking about LotR?

 

[Stinkles]

Was OK. I had mixed results with the 3D and the preachiness. Definitely recommended though and my theater's crowd LOVED it.

 

[BowieZ]

You thought the Home Tree was representative of the two towers. :lol

Yes I did :lol and I still do! :lol :lol

 

[Solo]

How awesome is Zoe Saldana by the way? Not only is she gorgeous and talented, but her agent does a great job of landing her in these major movies. Between Avatar and Star Trek, she has had a hell of a year.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

People keep saying the two towers, is it meant to be the twin towers or are you actually talking about LotR?

He means twin towers, but its funnier that he said two towers.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

How awesome is Zoe Saldana by the way? Not only is she gorgeous and talented, but her agent does a great job of landing her in these major movies. Between Avatar and Star Trek, she has had a hell of a year.

Its Cameron man, willing to give the unknowns a shot. Saldana was only cast in Trek because Cameron had cast her, just like Worthington got the role in T4.

 

[StuBurns]

He means twin towers, but its funnier that he said two towers.

In that case, maybe you can confirm Sculli, but is home tree in the original scriptment? If so it's the strongest evidence yet that the US government were behind it all, with Cameron's NASA connections, he forewarned us all.

How awesome is Zoe Saldana by the way? Not only is she gorgeous and talented, but her agent does a great job of landing her in these major movies. Between Avatar and Star Trek, she has had a hell of a year.

She was incredible in Avatar, not quite as memorable in ST.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

In that case, maybe you can confirm Sculli, but is home tree in the original scriptment? If so it's the strongest evidence yet that the US government were behind it all, with Cameron's NASA connections, he forewarned us all.

It is, but I don't think its called the Home Tree.

Edit - Actually, just checking back through it, it might not be there. Doesn't look like it, but then I'm just looking through the whole thing by ctrl+f "tree".

 

[gdt]

How awesome is Zoe Saldana by the way? Not only is she gorgeous and talented, but her agent does a great job of landing her in these major movies. Between Avatar and Star Trek, she has had a hell of a year.

Seriously. Wasn't she doing some shitty shit before Star Trek? I think so, total career resurgence.

She was also really good in Avatar. Total surprise.

Did she shoot Avatar before Star Trek? I think so, Cameron casted both Saldana and Worthington when they were nobodies, and released the movie when they're getting real heat (ST, T4, CotT, etc).

Edit: Yes she/he did.

 

[Combine]

She was incredible in Avatar, not quite as memorable in ST.

Quite so. Her performance in Avatar makes her ST performance look like a pedantic audition (not saying it was bad, just in comparison). She's simply amazing in this role.

 

[Solo]

She was incredible in Avatar, not quite as memorable in ST.

She was more or less eye candy in ST. Best of both worlds - we got to marvel at her performance in Avatar, and we got to marvel at her in Star Trek :lol :lol

I was shocked a few months back when I watched the first Pirates movie for the first time since probably 2004 and she popped up. Total unknown at that time.

 

[guise]

Had nothing to do today, and I couldnt wait till my IMAX booking on wednesday so i went to a 2D showing.

Just as i expected, I was blown away by the visuals - definitely the most visually impressive thing i have seen, although i think the CG does have its flaws in some places. Some of the cinematography was just flat out incredible and for the most part all the environments looked real. While the performance capture was really fucking good, not all the living creatures being seemed "real"

While Neytiri was consistently rendered realistically, Jake's avatar was really inconstant - he seemed to look different from scene to scene. And with the wildlife, the dinosaur type animals looked spot on, but others like the horses and wolves looked blatantly CG. The animation on the horses definitely didnt look natural all the time - at one point it did actually look bad, detracting from the scene, especially knowing everything around them was also CG

The plot might not have been great but the way it was told was done really well. The pacing and set pieces were great.

I thought the message was primarily about terrorism. The main tree being the Twin Towers.

Weirdly that scene did remind me of the WTC attacks - carnage and destruction on an epic scale. The way the scene changed from a lush green forrest full of life, to dark and raining ash with the dead/injured being carried off.

Can't wait to go and see it again in 3D and catch all the detail i missed. There was always so much stuff going on at once.

 

[BowieZ]

He means twin towers, but its funnier that he said two towers.

No, I mean Twin Towers and I said Twin Towers. You said Two Towers and you're a bit confused. Perhaps post less frequently... fewer double-posts?

But yeah, I'm surprised people are happily dismissing the fairly apparent terrorism theme.

EDIT:

Weirdly that scene did remind me of the WTC attacks - carnage and destruction on an epic scale. The way the scene changed from a lush green forrest full of life, to dark and raining ash with the dead/injured being carried off.

Exactly. I thought any more terrorism references and it would be insulting to our intelligences.

 

[Solo]

Seriously. Wasn't she doing some shitty shit before Star Trek? I think so, total career resurgence.

She was also really good in Avatar. Total surprise.

Did she shoot Avatar before Star Trek? I think so, Cameron casted both Saldana and Worthington when they were nobodies, and released the movie when they're getting real heat (ST, T4, CotT, etc).

Edit: Yes she/he did.

I dont think she was necessarily doing shit so much as she just hadnt broken out yet in any meaningful way. Yup, Avatar was shot earlier. 2007 and early 2008, I believe, and then Star Trek in later 2008.

2009 was really her breakout year. She wont go unnoticed any more. She'll be around for a long time.

 

[StuBurns]

Did she shoot Avatar before Star Trek? I think so, Cameron casted both Saldana and Worthington when they were nobodies, and released the movie when they're getting real heat (ST, T4, CotT, etc).

Edit: Yes she/he did.

Saldana was in Pirates before Avatar, but she wasn't high profile yeah. I bet Cameron was happy with them in terms of cash too, after both of them having hit films this year, their fees would be notably higher I'd imagine.

Sam was solid, but Zoe was the stand out performance of the movie and well worthy of the Oscar.

Wrong way round, dude.

But yeah, I'm surprised people are happily dismissing the fairly apparent terrorism theme.

The film was written in the mid-nineties, WAY before the twin towers were attacked. Get it?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Wrong way round, dude.

But yeah, I'm surprised people are happily dismissing the fairly apparent terrorism theme.

EDIT:

Exactly. I thought any more terrorism references and it would be insulting to our intelligences.

Its because it is just a staple of any human bid for resources. The scriptment was written in 95-97, before the Iraq war. The 'shock and awe' campaign is more fitting with the Vietnam war imo.

 

[Dragon]

Anddddddddddd chalk up another one who's eating crow on this movie. Just saw it in Real3d and I was stunned.

 

[Thai]

just saw it...blown away by the CG/world of pandora. i am sad to see that there wasn't much more to the plot than was shown by the first trailer.

Overall though...watch out hack directors, cameron's gonna kick your ass all over the place over the next few years.

 

[BowieZ]

The film was written in the mid-nineties, WAY before the twin towers were attacked. Get it?

And you guys have read the original scriptment? :lol Okay, my bad. I'll happily concede that to you guys. :lol

EDIT:

It is, but I don't think its called the Home Tree.

Edit - Actually, just checking back through it, it might not be there. Doesn't look like it, but then I'm just looking through the whole thing by ctrl+f "tree".

Well it's either a pretty amazing coincidence and rather prescient on Cameron's part, or it is as I said.

 

[Count Dookkake]

The film was written in the mid-nineties, WAY before the twin towers were attacked. Get it?

However, the film was made years after 9/11 which means the imagery could be inspired by news footage. Get it?

 

[Stinkles]

The film was written in the mid-nineties, WAY before the twin towers were attacked. Get it?

Yes, but it was put together, filmed and edited long after 9/11.

Anyway, I thought the preachy themes were a bit broader than that. It was about US imperialism, if anything.


And it was better than Batman. Even with his ridiculous "American" accent.