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Yep, gonna be awesome. Really looking forward to seeing the extra little bits added to the Quaritch fight too. Just thinking back on the film again the other day and Quaritch is seriously one of the most badass villains I've seen on the screen in a while. I fucking love Lang's performance as Quaritch. Ultimate badass to the point where if Quaritch decimated the entire Na'vi population a part of me would be pumping my fist.
 
Saw this on in a news story about Cameron shooting back to backm sequels. :lol

never-say-never-again.jpg
 
Scullibundo said:
Yep, gonna be awesome. Really looking forward to seeing the extra little bits added to the Quaritch fight too. Just thinking back on the film again the other day and Quaritch is seriously one of the most badass villains I've seen on the screen in a while. I fucking love Lang's performance as Quaritch. Ultimate badass to the point where if Quaritch decimated the entire Na'vi population a part of me would be pumping my fist.
I'm remembering a promotional pic from the Quaritch fight, framed from in the cockpit of the AMP suit looking out at a really pissed Neytiri. I'm hoping that shot was added back in.

Edit: ^^ looks awesome!
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Bah. Don't think it is coming here either.
Do you have any IMAX theaters in your area? It will defintely be playing there, as its only playing on IMAX and 3D screens.
 
Dead said:
Do you have any IMAX theaters in your area? It will defintely be playing there, as its only playing on IMAX and 3D screens.
There is a LieMAX around the corner. Saw my first showing there, but the glasses hurt after a bit, and the 3d was better on the RealD screens. But, if it is IMAX only, I will bite.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Heh. The trailer had the shot of Neytiri and Jake making whoopie, Na'vi style. I thought that was being saved for the DVD. :lol
Cameron just confirmed its in there. Its only 20 seconds long he said, and didnt even affect the rating :lol

btw, expanded re-release list:



ARGENTINA 23 SEPTEMBER 2010
AUSTRALIA 26 AUGUST 2010
BELGIUM 8 SEPTEMBER 2010
BRAZIL 15 OCTOBER 2010
CENTRAL AMERICA 3 SEPTEMBER 2010
CHILE 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
COLOMBIA 8 OCTOBER 2010
FRANCE 1 SEPTEMBER 2010
GERMANY 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
HOLLAND 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
HONG KONG 26 AUGUST 2010
INDIA 27 AUGUST 2010
INDONESIA 27 AUGUST 2010
JAPAN 16 OCTOBER 2010
MALAYSIA 26 AUGUST 2010
MEXICO 15 OCTOBER 2010
NEW ZEALAND 26 AUGUST 2010
PHILIPPINES 27 AUGUST 2010
POLAND 27 AUGUST 2010
PUERTO RICO 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
RUSSIA 26 AUGUST 2010
SINGAPORE 26 AUGUST 2010
SOUTH AFRICA 27 AUGUST 2010
SOUTH KOREA 26 AUGUST 2010
SPAIN 24 SEPTEMBER 2010
SWITZERLAND 1 SEPTEMBER 2010
TAIWAN 27 AUGUST 2010
TURKEY 15 OCTOBER 2010
UK 27 AUGUST 2010
VENEZUELA 29 OCTOBER 2010

New Zealand and Australia get it one day first. Curse you Sculli.
 
Dead said:
Cameron just confirmed its in there. Its only 20 seconds long he said, and didnt even affect the rating :lol

btw, expanded re-release list:



ARGENTINA 23 SEPTEMBER 2010
AUSTRALIA 26 AUGUST 2010
BELGIUM 8 SEPTEMBER 2010
BRAZIL 15 OCTOBER 2010
CENTRAL AMERICA 3 SEPTEMBER 2010
CHILE 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
COLOMBIA 8 OCTOBER 2010
FRANCE 1 SEPTEMBER 2010
GERMANY 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
HOLLAND 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
HONG KONG 26 AUGUST 2010
INDIA 27 AUGUST 2010
INDONESIA 27 AUGUST 2010
JAPAN 16 OCTOBER 2010
MALAYSIA 26 AUGUST 2010
MEXICO 15 OCTOBER 2010
NEW ZEALAND 26 AUGUST 2010
PHILIPPINES 27 AUGUST 2010
POLAND 27 AUGUST 2010
PUERTO RICO 2 SEPTEMBER 2010
RUSSIA 26 AUGUST 2010
SINGAPORE 26 AUGUST 2010
SOUTH AFRICA 27 AUGUST 2010
SOUTH KOREA 26 AUGUST 2010
SPAIN 24 SEPTEMBER 2010
SWITZERLAND 1 SEPTEMBER 2010
TAIWAN 27 AUGUST 2010
TURKEY 15 OCTOBER 2010
UK 27 AUGUST 2010
VENEZUELA 29 OCTOBER 2010

New Zealand and Australia get it one day first. Curse you Sculli.


Unfortunately I'm stuck in LA till late November, so no curses necessary.
 
Wow, never knew that part of the score had been hidden. Now I really want those fucking Earth scenes back in. Pictures just aren't the same. I want to see the hologram commercials lining the sky and the bar fight. Fuck it would make the opening shot of the transport ship with its thundering bass music cue seem so much more epic.

Avatar needs its fucking Earth scenes dammit. Fellowship essentially has two openings and is the better for it.
 
Scullibundo said:
Wow, never knew that part of the score had been hidden. Now I really want those fucking Earth scenes back in. Pictures just aren't the same. I want to see the hologram commercials lining the sky and the bar fight. Fuck it would make the opening shot of the transport ship with its thundering bass music cue seem so much more epic.

Avatar needs its fucking Earth scenes dammit. Fellowship essentially has two openings and is the better for it.
Im just hoping Cameron lets us branch the additional finished deleted scenes, including Earth on the new Blu-Ray.

Heres music from the Sturmbeest hunt. Unless they changed it in the Special Edition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQF4IzBQ5So
 
Solo said:
It is. Very limited. Not coming here :(

I'd love to see a release list of the theatres picking it up. Doesn't look like any cinema near me in LA will be getting it. Which is fucked because I know back home in Sydney, that IMAX will definitely be screening it.
 
Cameron still quietly planning to do Last Train From Hiroshima.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/08/12/james-cameron-avatar-hiroshima/
The Avatar sequel is still several years away — “We’re in the early days of technical development,” James Cameron told EW during an interview last week in Santa Monica, where he was plugging the Aug. 27 3-D Avatar re-release (check out his Q&A in this week’s issue). But that’s not the only film on the director’s to-do list. Cameron is also quietly working on a serious, history-based movie that sounds like it could be his own Schindler’s List. It’s called Last Train from Hiroshima, and it’s about a Japanese man during World War II who miraculously survived the atomic blast at Hiroshima, got on a train to Nagasaki, and then survived the nuclear explosion in that city, as well.

“I met Yamaguchi, the survivor, just days before he died [earlier this year],” Cameron says. “He was in the hospital. He was sort of turning over the baton of his story to us, so I have to do it. I can’t turn away from that.”
Still, Cameron has a lot of questions to answer before he begins rolling cameras. “The issue is tonal,” he says. “Yeah, sure, I could forensically show you what it was like to be at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But you probably wouldn’t want to stay around for the back half of the movie. And then there’s the question of whether I do it in 3D. I’ve made blanket statement that all my movies are going to be in 3D from now on, but I couldn’t do this in 3D. It’d be too sensationalistic.” How long before he solves these problems and makes the movie? Is it possible it could be in theaters before Avatar’s sequel? Cameron isn’t sure. “I’d like to do it sometime before the next nuclear war,” is all he’ll commit to.


What do you think PopWatchers? What would you rather see Cameron make first, an Avatar sequel or a serious drama about nuclear war?

For more from James Cameron, read our Q&A with the Oscar-winning director in the issue of Entertainment Weekly on stands Aug. 13.

Yep, thats it. Battle Angel is never happening.
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1645624/20100812/story.jhtml

Regarding the re-release of the film and the extra nine minutes that will be added, the Oscar-winner said he'll also be adding footage to the film's eventual special edition DVD. "We're doing a longer version for the DVD that is 16 to 17 minutes longer," he said, "but you'll have the choice: You can watch [the nine-minutes-longer version] or you can watch the original if you want to."
THAT BETTER BE ALL COMPLETE FOOTAGE AND INCLUDE THE EARTH SCENE
 
I'm thinking it might be the Earth scenes (4.5 mins) and the Lang/Selfridge scene and who the fuck knows what else. Maybe they filmed Norm/Trudy shit?

Maybe it will be the patrol that Quaritch takes the fresh meat on before the Avatar sleeping house scene near the beginning.
 
I'd just like to clarify that, as far as I understand, a 750 theatre count falls under "Wide" release. The term "Limited" is actually used to refer to a much more intimate affair. But yeah, a 750 theatre count means you won't find it everywhere.

It doesn't seem to be coming to Canada, or at least most of Canada; the movie is absent from the Cineplex and Empire Theatre websites. This makes me most sad.
 
The wording is wierd. Its not specified if its 16 minutes ON TOP of the 9 minutes, or 16 minutes including the 9 minutes.

If its the latter, I think theres a chance its additional finished footage, especially due to how Cameron recently said he went back to work on additional deleted scenes.

Sculli, the trudy/norm stuff was definitely filmed, but I think theres about a 0.000000001% chance of it getting included (hell, I doubt it would even be available as deleted scenes)

Mr. Sam said:
They're really dragging this out. A 4-disc blu-ray set that isn't even definitive?
The only thing it wont have is a 3D version of the movie
 
Scullibundo said:
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/video-interview-james-cameron-talks-avatar-special-edition-10832

Great interview with Cameron at Latino Review. Says he's not really considering doing a special edition release of True Lies, let alone revisiting it. :(
Sculli, did you hear about Cameron talking about the new Aliens remaster? he says theyve removed all Grain and Noise.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=68820

Interviewer: Do you have anything to do with the new Aliens stuff they are putting out?

Cameron: I just did a complete remaster of Aliens personally, uh, with the same colorist I worked with from Avatar and it's spectacular. We went in and completely denoised and degrained it, up-rezzed it, color corrected it from end to end, every frame and it looks amazing. It looks better than it did in theaters, originally, because it was shot on a high speed negative, a new negative that didn't pan out too well and got replaced the following year so it was pretty grainy...we got rid of all the grain and it's sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it's ever looked and we did that to the long version.


Also, an another interesting Avatar interview where he talks about the future of the whole project: http://www.hitfix.com/video/watch/16737337001/558134952001
 
Dead said:
Sculli, did you hear about Cameron talking about the new Aliens remaster? he says theyve removed all Grain and Noise.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=68820




Also, an another interesting Avatar interview where he talks about the future of the whole project: http://www.hitfix.com/video/watch/16737337001/558134952001
Degraining stuff for the sake of it (hello, Predator special edition) pisses me off, but with Cameron approval on the new master...droooool.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Degraining stuff for the sake of it (hello, Predator special edition) pisses me off, but with Cameron approval on the new master...droooool.
Predator was obviously shit job done by the studio. Here Cameron is definitely involved, and theyre going through it frame by frame, dealing with the color timing, etc.

So, although I was a bit weary at first, I think it will come out looking fine. I doubt we'll be seeing any of the Wax people from Predator in this.
 
Dead said:
Predator was obviously shit job done by the studio. Here Cameron is definitely involved, and theyre going through it frame by frame, dealing with the color timing, etc.

So, although I was a bit weary at first, I think it will come out looking fine. I doubt we'll be seeing any of the Wax people from Predator in this.
I see it coming out like the Seven platinum DVD. Completely re color timed by the director and looking sexy.
 
Joe Johnston says 30% of Avatar was shot in 2D and then converted to 3D:

http://www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/captainamerica/news/?a=7530

When conversion is done right, you can't tell the difference between it and full 3D. Everyone touts Avatar as the new standard for 3D. It's beautifully done to be sure, but it wasn't entirely shot in full 3D. The filmmakers wisely chose to shoot about 30 to 35 percent of the picture in 2D and convert. I challenge anyone, myself included, to watch the picture and spot the 2D conversions.

the fug?
 
http://www.reelmovienews.com/2010/08/james-cameron-discusses-why-hes-re-releasing-avatar/

Good video interview with Cameron. I had read the stuff he said in the comingsoon interview about the re-colorization of Aliens etc, but didn't know he was asked again about Battle Angel. I think more people need to pester him about Battle Angel.

I really liked when they asked about why he was so g'd up for the Avatar sequels, as it really gives you the impression its not going to be a 'more of the same' sequel, but rather a film that will continue to explore new places and ideas in that universe. I think its great he's willing to explore that solar system somehow (fuck knows how), rather than make everything once again Pandora-centric. It could be a completely different movie set in that universe he's set up and I wouldn't mind one bit.

Also, I want to see those True Lies deleted scenes he just hinted at!

Megateto: That's old news :)
 
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/blue_man_grope_EoID010B7X7VWYsT2AAssI
When "Avatar" returns to IMAX theaters on Friday for a limited run aimed at adding to its $2.7 billion box-office bonanza, viewers will get to see yet another cinematic breakthrough: Na'vi sex.

Director James Cameron has added nine minutes of footage to his blockbuster, some of which extends the love scene between hero Jake Sully's avatar and Neytiri, his 9-foot-tall blue lover. Beneath the sacred Tree of Souls, they mingle their anemone-like braids in alien union.

"The tendrils move with a life of their own, straining to be joined," reads a leaked page of the script that describes the scene. "JAKE rocks with the direct contact between his nervous system and hers. The ultimate intimacy."


20th Century Fox
IN THE NA'VI: The 9-foot-tall lovers of "Avatar" get it on -- with sexy extra footage added by James Cameron for the IMAX re-release.
Despite the conjugal nature of the scene, Cameron told The Post that the film's PG-13 rating was never in jeopardy.

"We do see a little bit more between Jake and Neytiri on their night of romance, though it's absolutely nothing that changes the rating," Cameron said. "To be honest, there wasn't much more to show -- we're pretty much putting in every frame, and it's only an additional 20 seconds."

The other eight minutes and 40 seconds opens a Pandora's box of other moments:

* More shots of a schoolhouse run by Sigourney Weaver's Dr. Grace Augustine. "That's a very interesting set piece, about two minutes long, a rich scene with big action-adventure stuff and a hunt featuring these herd animals called Sturmbeests," Cameron said.

* Extra footage of the death of Na'vi clansman Tsu'tey, Jake's romantic rival. "You see him after the battle," Cameron said. "Jake and Neytiri come to him, and it's this incredibly powerful scene. In fact, I was practically booed out of the room when I told everybody I was going to take it out of the movie in the first place."

* A scene Cameron calls "the drums of war," which he hopes will clarify why the humans choose to wipe out the Na'vi. He compared it to America's decision to invade Iraq. "We had to provoke Saddam to do something stupid, and it's like that with the humans invading Pandora," he said. "I felt when I was writing it that the Na'vi had to counter-react and do something that is called an atrocity that gave [humans] the moral right to go in and destroy and displace them. The additional footage is pretty short, but it fulfills that purpose."

The new cut of the movie will be even longer when it arrives on DVD during the holiday season. Cameron is adding another seven minutes of goodies that film geeks will treasure as if it's unobtainium.

"It's for those that don't mind a movie that's pushed to 257 minutes," he said with a grin. "That's getting up into 'Titanic' territory, so it's strictly for hyperfans."


The special edition will feature a bonus -- lots of blue aliens, but no blue language.

"We've mixed a family version of the audio," Cameron said. "As a parent, I get into trouble with my wife because I let my 5-year-old and my 9-year-old watch a movie, and for the next week we have to stop them from saying, 'a - -hole, goddamn it and s- -t!' "

What fans are really waiting for, however, is the sequel. And they'll be waiting until at least 2014. Cameron said he's only in the "tons of notes" stage.

"Right now, the thinking is that [Parts] Two and Three are going to be done together," he said. "They'll be released separately, probably a year apart or maybe even two, but they'll be done in a bunch. I'm mapping out the story line right now, so there's a proper arc that plays out over two films but buttons nicely at the end of Two, so you don't get this horrible second-act/end-of-'The Matrix' feeling. You know, 'I've just sat through a three-hour movie and f- -k-all happened at the end!' "

So the Bluray cut will be 257 minutes long (and I'm pretty sure the Earth scenes are 4 minutes by themselves if I remember correctly). Also glad to hear him say that about the structure of the sequels.
 
Adding 7 minutes = 257 minutes?

Something doesn't add up there.

Also, at MTV, Cameron said the DVD would have a cut that is 16-17 minutes longer. So I suppose that means that INCLUDES the 9 minutes from the re-release, since 7 minutes would add up to 16 minutes.

That means the new cut will be 178 minutes. Where is 257 coming from :lol
 
jett said:
I'd really rather have two self-contained movies.
I think its perfectly possible to make 2 self contained movies that lead perfectly into each other, especially if Cameron is behind it. Im not too worried about it.

Also:

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Dead said:
I think its perfectly possible to make 2 self contained movies that lead perfectly into each other, especially if Cameron is behind it. Im not too worried about it.

Also:

http://i33.tinypic.com/34ovria.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

We'll see.

Man sucks that that the Avatar re-release isn't coming here. A buddy of mine couldn't watch it in 3D for several reasons during the first release and I told him this was his chance. Oops.
 
jett said:
We'll see.

Man sucks that that the Avatar re-release isn't coming here. A buddy of mine couldn't watch it in 3D for several reasons during the first release and I told him this was his chance. Oops.
Unfortunately, I think its REALLY limited, even here in the US.

I can barely find any theaters around me playing it next weekend, and not a single IMAX in my area is carrying it it seems :(

Guess 800 mil is out of the equation :lol

Edit: BTW, Im willing to bet that Cameron will be a bitch and even in those extra 7 minutes, we won't get the Earth scenes put back into the movie. :(
 
Well hopefully they'll at least be in the deleted scenes. All I know is that the first cut of the movie they finished editing (before rendering) was something like 4 hours 16 minutes).

Anyway, I think its perfectly reasonable to assume he can make two self-contained films within an overriding arc - which is exactly why he addresses the problem of films like the Matrix sequels and PotC. I think it will be akin to the ending of ESB - you didn't feel cheated at all, but you knew it wasn't all over yet, just like TDK.
 
I wouldn't mind them being totally self contained.

One thing I really hope the sequels don't do is bring back the humans to retake the planet. It would make no sense and end up being the same thing. Just do some nice adventures on Pandora.
 
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