SCULLIBUNDO
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You mean where Jake first sees his avatar? I actually thought it looked rather good. I liked that set. But yeah, the avatar link-up room. Lulz.
We gonna get some Na'vi submersibles in the next film or what?
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You mean where Jake first sees his avatar? I actually thought it looked rather good. I liked that set. But yeah, the avatar link-up room. Lulz.
We gonna get some Na'vi submersibles in the next film or what?
No, I mean the bit when he wakes up? A fifth of tequila and an ass kicking.
TheChewyWaffles
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Like he said, all the lines are shit.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Oh man, I love the cryo-vault. Nooo! I think it looks pretty great.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Cryovault is boss.
I really like the composition of those shots, but I've never liked the texture, and that strange diffused, but extremely bright lighting.
To weigh in on the Dances with Wolves thing, the white man savior is an old concept, lots of films and other media have used, but Cameron does choose to use the diary as the narrative driving device, and source of voice overs too, so it certainly has a lot in common. I see a lot of The New World in it too, although logically that's not likely, or possible really.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I kinda hope Cameron ditches the ongoing narration for the next film. But I know he won't. It's used so sparingly in his other films. It's like running commentary throughout Avatar.
Stuburns- I know what you mean , I think it's that people like us see so many movies these days that abuse CG , our eyes have just become overly aware of it.
For me the first huge offense was in indy4, obviously a Lucas lead decision to use CG gophers in the opening scenes but man. It's like, ever since then I can't help but "notice" CG all the time, good /bad/ugly.
That picture you posted- is it from the Life of Pi ? See the first thing I saw for that was an entire scene from the film where hundreds of fish are flying all over and the kid and the tiger are fighting to grab some of them. I thought it was a low budget student art film at the time and then I find out it's actually a big budget hollywood film later on and went "huh?"
Many people this week were complaining about pacific rim and ... I get the feeling in that case the monsters in particular are going for a "man in a rubber suit" look. Which... is a bit odd given that a man in a rubber suit would cost a helluva lot less then spending time and money to make CG look intentionally poor...
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Given that this is the avatar thread- is it odd to admit that I only ever saw it once ? Went opening night , saw it in 3d - loved it! and then bought the 2d barebones bluray that came out a few months later and never did bother to sit through it. Last week I got a 55 inch 3dtv and I'm wondering if I should just turf that copy off and grab the 3d version... Part of the reason why I never watched the 2D bluray is that I figured it would tarnish my opinion of the movie.
For me the first huge offense was in indy4, obviously a Lucas lead decision to use CG gophers in the opening scenes but man. It's like, ever since then I can't help but "notice" CG all the time, good /bad/ugly.
That picture you posted- is it from the Life of Pi ? See the first thing I saw for that was an entire scene from the film where hundreds of fish are flying all over and the kid and the tiger are fighting to grab some of them. I thought it was a low budget student art film at the time and then I find out it's actually a big budget hollywood film later on and went "huh?"
Many people this week were complaining about pacific rim and ... I get the feeling in that case the monsters in particular are going for a "man in a rubber suit" look. Which... is a bit odd given that a man in a rubber suit would cost a helluva lot less then spending time and money to make CG look intentionally poor...
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Given that this is the avatar thread- is it odd to admit that I only ever saw it once ? Went opening night , saw it in 3d - loved it! and then bought the 2d barebones bluray that came out a few months later and never did bother to sit through it. Last week I got a 55 inch 3dtv and I'm wondering if I should just turf that copy off and grab the 3d version... Part of the reason why I never watched the 2D bluray is that I figured it would tarnish my opinion of the movie.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Thanks for those Life of Pi spoilers.
No kidding. One of the best scenes in the film too.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Le sigh. I was so looking forward to it as well.
It would be unusual given Jake won't logically be making diary entries. I could imagine it more like Titanic, with it spotted throughout in the context of an actual storyteller, or he'll just drop it entirely. There was so much sci-fi in Avatar that he had to very clearly convey, to even the simplest of audience members, that he had to be a little didactic about it I think.
It is, indeed. I was considering going to see it next week, just go without seeing a trailer, I'm very glad I checked it out first.
I think the 3D is nicer, it's just a bit dirtier, but it certainly looks beautiful flat too. I actually never could get used to fades in 3D, it's almost as if they should fade to flat too.
As for the spoiler talk, it's my fault really, I shouldn't have posted a screen, even if it's from a trailer, I know some people like to go in completely blind.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It wasn't the trailer grab that annoyed me, though I admit I hadn't noticed that before. It was the other poster who just spoiled a pretty big scene without any thought to at least using tags.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah don't worry about it. As I keep explaining in the other thread, my creating it is mainly motivated by The Hobbit stuff this week.
But anyway yes, I don't see many films coming close to Avatar in the CG department for a good while. I'm excited to see Gollum in The Hobbit though.
But anyway yes, I don't see many films coming close to Avatar in the CG department for a good while. I'm excited to see Gollum in The Hobbit though.
It's going to be 60 fps.
SCULLIBUNDO
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They will be in either 48fps or 60fps.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Those IMAX laser projection systems can't come soon enough.
That .. that was a spoiler ?
I mean sheesh sorry I guess ? it was seriously played as a trailer in front of Prometheus . I haven't seen the film itself so I have no idea where in the film that bit was taken from but some studio head felt it was okay to make that the first way I learned of the films existence.
If this is to do with the question I posed about stu's picture well, again, I've since seen the actual trailer for life of pi and gathered the general plot , so I don't think that picture really means anything unless you put on a blindfold and earplugs during the trailer.
Shit, I didn't even know until very recently that life of pi was based on a book.
I mean sheesh sorry I guess ? it was seriously played as a trailer in front of Prometheus . I haven't seen the film itself so I have no idea where in the film that bit was taken from but some studio head felt it was okay to make that the first way I learned of the films existence.
If this is to do with the question I posed about stu's picture well, again, I've since seen the actual trailer for life of pi and gathered the general plot , so I don't think that picture really means anything unless you put on a blindfold and earplugs during the trailer.
Shit, I didn't even know until very recently that life of pi was based on a book.
What can I say.
In all honesty I'm not a fan of Avatar but I'm curious to see where the narrative goes. I wouldn't imagine they'd tell the same story twice (and the ocean stuff sounds kind of cool).
SCULLIBUNDO
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Cameron was a camera operator on the Cirque du Soleil film
I swear it's like he's doing everything there is to do in the world that isn't making the sequels. :lol
I swear it's like he's doing everything there is to do in the world that isn't making the sequels. :lol
SCULLIBUNDO
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http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/blogs/new-zealands-beauty-may-delay-avatar-sequels
Ah well, I suppose it's better than phoning the scripts in while writing in a trailer home.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Spending a couple months on a script, then pulling it out of a drawer and revising it ten years later doesn't equal ten years of writing.
LOL, I never said that he spent ten years writing it. I know that's what happened with Avatar's script, but I want to know how much time he actually spent writing or rewriting it. Also, I could never see Cameron nailing down a script exactly as he wants it. He's a perfectionist, I don't know if he could ever be happy about something without looking for ways to improve it.
SCULLIBUNDO
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He was pretty damn happy with his Aliens script. He's said he doesn't think he'll ever write a better script.
PhoncipleBone
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And he still hasn't.
SCULLIBUNDO
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From a structure/plotting/pacing pov I agree. The Abyss has his best written characters though.
But yes, overall Aliens is his best script.
PhoncipleBone
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Agreed.
He's is in a strange place, he wants to build the most technically advanced films he can, the biggest in scope, and that requires very large sums of money. You could make an R-rated three hundred million dollar film, and Cameron is more likely to get the green light for that than literally anyone else, but it's just going to make it harder to make back that money.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Hey guys, remember this? :lol
Poimandres
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I agree with this completely. Growing up in the 90's I've enjoyed the progression of CG. From early mind blowers like Terminator 2 and Jurrasic Park, through Independence Day, Titanic etc. It seemed like every 2 years or so (if not every year) there was something that would raise the bar. But it's been 3 years since Avatar, and I don't think anything has come close to touching it. Maybe some of the subtle uses of CG that are indistinguishable from reality, but in terms of a CG spectacle I've been sorely disappointed that nothing has stepped up to challenge Avatar.
3 years is an eternity in CG. What's going to overthrow it?!
Honestly I was more wowed by the visuals of Adventures of Tintin and some of the HFR scenes in The Hobbit than Avatar.
All of them are from Weta though.
Poimandres
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Tintin was fantastic, but still doesn't quite touch Avatar.
I can't wait to see how the real-time feed on the virtual cam looks in the BTS videos for the Avatar sequels.
I can't wait to see how the real-time feed on the virtual cam looks in the BTS videos for the Avatar sequels.
shira
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2020 can't come soon enough
TacticalFox88
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No love for Rango? 
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