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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Mr. Sam said:
Levelheadedness = extreme negativity, apparently.
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Well, interpreting all those mostly positive reviews in a way that makes the story shit and the movie a failure at living up to the hype may count as negativity. ;D
 
rhino4evr said:
WOW..WTF?

you haven't even seen this yet, and you are already calling it a massive failure?

EDIT..I would say that the majority of the reviews mention that the film DOES live up to the hype. Do some readin before you do your hatin.
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Why the fuck do people on this forum do this?

Re-read my post. I said that "in context of its build up, it will be seen as a failure"

If you want to disagree with me then fine, but don't paraphrase and try to twist and manipulate statements to discredit people and promote your own views.

I made a post and then you took out one word (failure) and took it completely out of context.

EDIT: To the people that disagree with what I said and at least try to back it up and do not twist peoples words, then fine, that's your opinion. I just have a problem with dumb posts like this.
 
Haunted said:
Is a review saying "mediocre/run-of-the-mill" considered negative or positive?

It seems like this black and white methodology ignores the (rather large) middle ground? Oh well, whatever.
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Ive seen it go both ways. Hell, a lot of "fresh" reviews seem pretty negative, and vice versa. Its a very flawed system that should never be used as any real sort of metric.
 
It's an odd prediction to make.

The only reaction we have to the movie so far has been unexpectedly enthusiastic. Mainstream critics are loving it. The enthusiast press is loving it. There's Oscar buzz. We still don't have any kind of box office results in.

Saying it will disappoint relative to this nebulous "context of its build up" is a cop out. If the movie gets near-universal praise, is a box office success, and does well in the awards, is it still a failure "in the context of its build up"? Because so far that's the track it's on. You're establishing this unmeasurable threshold that you can reconcile any realty against. No matter what happens, you can - and likely will - make the same argument.
 
liquid_gears said:
Why the fuck do people on this forum do this?

Re-read my post. I said that "in context of its build up, it will be seen as a failure"

If you want to disagree with me then fine, but don't paraphrase and try to twist and manipulate statements to discredit people and promote your own views.

I made a post and then you took out one word (failure) and took it completely out of context.

EDIT: To the people that disagree with what I said and at least try to back it up and do not twist peoples words, then fine, that's your opinion. I just have a problem with dumb posts like this.
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I guess that Build-Up is what we disagree on, becuase I wasn't for this film at ALL until a day ago. I don't see how you can already say this film will be considered a disappointment. Not everyone had the same expectations. If you know Cameron's films, you know that he makes "blockbuster type" films, not art house pictures. If you were hyping this to be the next Kubrick film, you had your heart in the wrong place to begin with.
 
Solo said:
Ive seen it go both ways. Hell, a lot of "fresh" reviews seem pretty negative, and vice versa. Its a very flawed system that should never be used as any real sort of metric.
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The percentage is one aspect, average rating is another. Most people enjoy the movie, so it gets a very high percentage. Overall opinion is that it's fun, but has some flaws in the story and some dialogue so the average rating is a bit lower at 7.7/10.
 
GhaleonEB said:
It's an odd prediction to make.

The only reaction we have to the movie so far has been unexpectedly enthusiastic. Mainstream critics are loving it. The enthusiast press is loving it. There's Oscar buzz. We still don't have any kind of box office results in.

Saying it will disappoint relative to this nebulous "context of its build up" is a cop out. If the movie gets near-universal praise, is a box office success, and does well in the awards, is it still a failure "in the context of its build up"? Because so far that's the track it's on. You're establishing this unmeasurable threshold that you can reconcile any realty against. No matter what happens, you can - and likely will - make the same argument.
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Exactly. How would one measure the "build up hype" number? We have thing to compare the reality (box office, critic's scores, etc) to the hype meter number because there isn't any hype meter score.
 
Paid $50 for 3 tickets for the IMAX 3D screening. My hype meter was high at first, then brought down when I saw the sneak peak, but is back up after all of these reviews. JC haven't disappointed yet!
 
Yeah me and a bunch of nerd pals are booking tickets for the Thursday midnight show. The initial positive review buzz has tipped me from "I'll eventually see it" to "I'll see it ASAP."
 
Gary Whitta said:
Yeah me and a bunch of nerd pals are booking tickets for the Thursday midnight show. The initial positive review buzz has tipped me from "I'll eventually see it" to "I'll see it ASAP."
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Saw it at the Burbank 3d IMAX for Avatar day, and booked tickets last month for the same theater. I refused to see it at any other 3d theater, since what I saw from Avatar day in the same place was so damn amazing. After the word got out, nearly every person I know is going to the same showing. Gonna have between 20-30 people waiting in like at 8pm for a 10:10pm Friday night show. It's gonna be so grandiose, I can't wait. :D
 
I really want to see this now after all the reviews but my local is booked for the first 5 days

That'll teach me to sit on the fence.
 
In for insane effects, ass-rocking action sequences, James Horner score which is incredible, etc. It's a Cameron film, and I've never really liked any of his films because of storyline. T2 had a cool story. Aliens has a story that is only there to lead to the action. Titanic had a pretty good story but it wasn't anything incredibly deep, just a good love story, whatever. Story isn't at the forefront of my expectations for this film. It's obviously centered around the technology and experience. Who gives a fuck if the plot isn't incredibly deep or mindblowing, it's still probably a really fun story. It looks like Cameron delivered on the promise of technical breakthroughs, as many reviewers have stated repeatedly, I don't ever recall him trying to pimp out the plot :lol

I largely consider this an experimental film, and if he doesn't get everything right the first time, no big deal. Seems like he's broken some ground with this film and I'm sure he'll give it another go. I just feel that whatever the story lacks, it will be made up for with cool characters, technical aspects and everything else this film will rock at.
 
Blader5489 said:
I'll be seeing it in liemax.
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Me too. The theater next door is a LieMAX, but the tickets were only $.50 more than their Real D screens. $.50 for booking specific seats so I dont have to get there super early for good seating, and also a brighter screen and better sound system. Although their LieMAX screen itself is slightly smaller than their main 3d screen, but that is dependent on what showtime you go to.
 
LCfiner said:
here's a good quote from the review

"Avatar is not the future of storytelling or the reinvention of the wheel. It's pulp, but pulp done with the best toolbox Hollywood can offer and pulp created by someone who knows and loves pulp like very few others."
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That sounds about what I was expecting.
 
Booked for me and my friends. I'm glad I made the decision to have AVATAR be my first 3D experience. We'll be seeing it in Digital 3D. How's that gonna work with glasses by the way?
Us near sighted people (well, I'm not that near sighted, but still). I'm gonna have to wear them over my 3D glasses isn't it?
 
Just bought my ticket. There are some nice perks to living in the DC area - some pretty decent availability for stuff like IMAX, as well as easy access to theaters in either DC, Maryland or VA due to the Beltway.
 
And I have to say, as someone who's never gone to see either an IMAX film or a 3D film (much less both at the same time), I was expecting the ticket to cost more than $15. That's barely above typical 2D, shitty screen prices these days.
 
I'm excited. Haven't experienced anything 3D since probably Kings Dominion back sometime in the mid-90s, and I've never experienced IMAX at all. I'm fairly certain I picked the perfect fucking movie to pop those dual cherries.
 
Jibril said:
Booked for me and my friends. I'm glad I made the decision to have AVATAR be my first 3D experience. We'll be seeing it in Digital 3D. How's that gonna work with glasses by the way?
Us near sighted people (well, I'm not that near sighted, but still). I'm gonna have to wear them over my 3D glasses isn't it?
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You will wear your 3D glasses over your regular ones. It's far from ideal but that's what us speccies have to deal with.
 
Zeliard said:
Just bought my ticket. There are some nice perks to living in the DC area - some pretty decent availability for stuff like IMAX, as well as easy access to theaters in either DC, Maryland or VA due to the Beltway.
 
And I have to say, as someone who's never gone to see either an IMAX film or a 3D film (much less both at the same time), I was expecting the ticket to cost more than $15. That's barely above typical 2D, shitty screen prices these days.
 
I'm excited. Haven't experienced anything 3D since probably Kings Dominion back sometime in the mid-90s, and I've never experienced IMAX at all. I'm fairly certain I picked the perfect fucking movie to pop those dual cherries.
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The Imax near me is $17 a ticket plus a $2 fee if you pre order + Tax...

$20 a ticket..is it really worth it?

EDIt..the 3D glasses are usually big enough to fit over your frames..I ve never had a problem.
 
Zeliard said:
Just bought my ticket. There are some nice perks to living in the DC area - some pretty decent availability for stuff like IMAX, as well as easy access to theaters in either DC, Maryland or VA due to the Beltway.
 
And I have to say, as someone who's never gone to see either an IMAX film or a 3D film (much less both at the same time), I was expecting the ticket to cost more than $15. That's barely above typical 2D, shitty screen prices these days.
 
I'm excited. Haven't experienced anything 3D since probably Kings Dominion back sometime in the mid-90s, and I've never experienced IMAX at all. I'm fairly certain I picked the perfect fucking movie to pop those dual cherries.
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You won't get the full IMAX experience from this movie since none of it was shot on IMAX film, the movie you should have popped that cherry with was The Dark Knight. It had amazing IMAX scenes. But it will look really cool with a screen that big, no doubt. This movie just won't utilize the whole surface of it, that's all.

I am going across town to see this at an IMAX myself though, and yes it is worth it, especially for a 3D movie.
 
rhino4evr said:
The Imax near me is $17 a ticket plus a $2 fee if you pre order + Tax...

$20 a ticket..is it really worth it?

EDIt..the 3D glasses are usually big enough to fit over your frames..I ve never had a problem.
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In my experience with the right movie IMAX is well worth the hefty premium. This seems like the right movie.
 
To celebrate the release of this momentous film, I have finally created myself an AVATAR to use on GAF!

Oh happy day.

Can't wait to see this, high 5's all round.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
joblo.com give it a 7/10

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=29953

In the end, AVATAR is not the kick-ass, mind-blowing James Cameron movie I was hoping for, but it's a perfectly serviceable sci-fi adventure that's well worth seeing, despite it's flaws. While I doubt this will catch on like TITANIC, it's still good to have James Cameron back directing movies, and I hope we don't have to wait another twelve years for his next film.

RATING: 7/10
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I have no idea who this critic is, but my expectations going into the movie are in line with this.
I'm expecting to go and see a decent sci-fi film but I'm mainly excited because Jim is back! I just hope he gets on a new film straight away and doesn't take too long of a break.
 
B-B-Bomba! said:
To celebrate the release of this momentous film, I have finally created myself an AVATAR to use on GAF!

Oh happy day.

Can't wait to see this, high 5's all round.
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that's like the worst Avatar ever. it doesnt live up to the hype. :lol
 
Gary Whitta said:
You will wear your 3D glasses over your regular ones. It's far from ideal but that's what us speccies have to deal with.
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Have to live it it I guess. :lol
 
yea wearing them over my glasses has never been a problem. it would be cool if they could make like a sunglass clip on thing for people with glasses though instead of balancing the arms over your other glasses. but i got bigger glasses so i have a wider field of view to work with.
 
Dead said:
where did you see that?

Edit: Fuck, I thought you meant Armond White :lol
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That was totally what I meant :)

Edit - ah, but not the film, sry ...

DieNgamers said:
I like it ;D
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Thanks :)

In reply to the un-asked question, it's Bambi Mask, a level-owner from Pen-Pen Tricelon.

When the DC launched, about the most fun we had with it was listening to this guy talk - it's also where my 'name' comes from.

"Bam-bom, bing-bong, biddly-bom, b-b-bomba!"

Alors, le film ...
 
Scullibundo said:
Just woke up. See thread title change. Check score. 95%.

What gives!
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:lol you didnt REALLY expect 100% praise right?

LOL at the Jo BLo Reviewer that thinks the average between 10 and 4 is 6....

where do these writers go to school?
 
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