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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Trust us, this gives us no joy to write, but this time the tea leaves were off and we must hereby humbly resign our seat on the board of Avatar-Bashing Incorporated.

To all our comrades in arms on the Avatar Sucks barricades. Our fight was brave. Our cause was noble. In some way, I'll figure out later, we can claim this was a moral victory. But the time has come to lay down our arms and return to our pastures and couches. It has been a honor to serve with you all and history will honor our valor and our sacrifice. But the war has ended. And we are losers.

best part of the review
 
banKai said:
FIRST THIS MESSAGE HAS TO GO OUT: THE MOVIE IS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!

more afte I edit!
Have you seen it today? Also just make a new post, this will go under. ;D


If you can get those snarky fucks at Gawker to eat crow then you're doing something right.
Read some of the obviously bitter comments from people under that article who still don't want to believe! ;D
 
Dabookerman said:
For those who have seen the Hurt Locker, could you guys tell me why it's so good?

It's a fairly unbiased movie about the soldier's experience in the Iraq War. It is also one of the most suspensful, tension-inducing action movies ever. The cast is great (Jeremy Renner deserves a Best Actor nomination, it could happen). It is shot beautifully. It's the total package, really. I would not be mad if it took home Best Picture.
 
I was a lucky winner in the so called Ö3-Premiere here in Austria, Graz. We have only one cinema able to show movies in IMAX 3D. I was seated in the second row on the right, so when I was looking straight ahead I had the rightmost quarter of the hole screen in front of me.

The 3D effect is best viewed when you are sitting in the center and relatively near to the screen. Row number 1 is nearest to the screen, so row 4 to 6 may be the best.

Before the movie we were welcomed by one of the Ö3 moderators who was giving a little history lesson about the project with saying it cost 500 mio Dollars etc. etc. He also said that if this movie makes enough money then "they", whoever they are, will bring us 3D televisions, whatever that meant xD

The projector was running at 720/60p, I was lucky enough to spot this before the presentation started. I wear glasses and the 3D glasses fit perfectly on top of my second eye pair. The only flaw I noticed with the 3D technique is that in motion it seems to kind of flicker. The movements weren't as sharp as watching a normal HD movie. In action scenes it was really hard for me to follow what happened on screen, but maybe one has to get used to it. The first 30 minutes were a little eye straining, but I got used to it so the rest was ok. It seems that there was one lady after the show who got motion sick or whatever, she couldn't watch the whole movie in 3D.

There were only 400 people today in the world who got the chance to watch Avatar before everyone else can watch it in the coming days.

We were asked to store our mobile phones with the security, because the marketing guys from America where nervous about screener One guy from the cinema was even sitting with night vision goggles to scout potential "pirates" :P

You have to know that I am easily impressed with movie and take them for what they are. Example: Transformers and Transformers 2 are both fucking great movies, because I like Transformers and action, and both were awesome :) So, if you are put off by this, then stop reading ;)

When watching this movie, just forget every feeling you have, be open minded and be one with the world of Pandora. Let the movie guide you from start to end.

This is the first time I watched a movie in 3D and I couldn't help myself but grin like every minutes in the first half when witnessing the 3D effect. The flora and fauna are incredibley astonishing. Everything you will see is so believable and well animated that it's simply put a beauty to behold. The emotions the Naavi show are so true to real life, I can't even find words for it.

The action is pretty slick and there were even some moments where my eyes got a little moist ;)

All in all I can only recommend watching this movie if you have the chance to!

Any questions?
 
stuburns said:
I want to know more about 720p/60fps, seems odd, I would have though 4k/120Hz

well, this could have also been the setting the beamer was in before they switched to your setting, I don't know :) It was just what I spotted
 
I have a question. Why would you possibly recommend anybody sit in the closest rows to the screen for IMAX, let alone 3D? That is the cause of much (not saying all) of your blurriness.

:lol
 
Scullibundo said:
I have a question. Why would you possibly recommend anybody sit in the closest rows to the screen for IMAX, let alone 3D? That is the cause of much (not saying all) of your blurriness.

:lol

well, I only repeat what the cinema guys told me, as I couldn't check the 3D from further behind :) they said that the closer you sit, the better the 3D effect gets.

I will watch this movie again on Thursday with my friends where I will be sitting in row 8 :)
 
banKai said:
well, I only repeat what the cinema guys told me, as I couldn't check the 3D from further behind :) they said that the closer you sit, the better the 3D effect gets.

I will watch this movie again on Thursday with my friends where I will be sitting in row 8 :)

The same cinema guys that said it cost $500m? The guys running your cinema sound like fucking morons. You NEVER sit close to the screen in a 3D film, ESPECIALLY not an IMAX 3D film.

Think about how you perceive depth. You see the edges of an object because you have two eyes, so instead of seeing an object as a flat plane, the other eye acts to show AROUND the object. This becomes harder when this is applied to a 3D image on a flat screen, this hurdle is magnified when you sit so close to the screen that you can't possibly see around it (unless the object in question is tiny on the screen) because it takes up more than your entire field of view. So on an IMAX screen, sitting close to the screen is retarded, especially for 3D.
 
DieNgamers said:
Have you seen it today? Also just make a new post, this will go under. ;D



Read some of the obviously bitter comments from people under that article who still don't want to believe! ;D
The comments don't show up when I view the site on my iPhone.
 
Scullibundo said:
The same cinema guys that said it cost $500m? The guys running your cinema sound like fucking morons. You NEVER sit close to the screen in a 3D film, ESPECIALLY not an IMAX 3D film.

Think about how you perceive depth. You see the edges of an object because you have two eyes, so instead of seeing an object as a flat plane, the other eye acts to show AROUND the object. This becomes harder when this is applied to a 3D image on a flat screen, this hurdle is magnified when you sit so close to the screen that you can't possibly see around it (unless the object in question is tiny on the screen) because it takes up more than your entire field of view. So on an IMAX screen, sitting close to the screen is retarded, especially for 3D.

yeah, that's what I thought too, was just repeating xD which is not every time a good thing ;)

edit: but imax and 3d is relatively new in my town, so give them some time ;)
 
banKai said:
yeah, that's what I thought too, was just repeating xD which is not every time a good thing ;)

edit: but imax and 3d is relatively new in my town, so give them some time ;)

You listen to me. Next time you're down at that IMAX, you slap them. YOU SLAP THEM IN THE FACE!

CENOBITE said:
Dang. I posted in the wrong Avatar thread. Jeez! How many are there?!

I think there's something like 4 all up.
 
http://www.hollywoodwiretap.com/?module=news&action=story&id=43407

Internet buzz and advance-ticket demand for "Avatar" has heated up dramatically as the Thursday midnight debut of James Cameron's otherworldly adventure approaches.

This morning's Golden Globes nomination for best picture drama can't hurt, either, as studio marketers adjust their advertising campaigns for nominated movies and performances.

"Avatar" is way out in front of all other movies for online vendors MovieTickets.com and Fandango.com. Fandango reported 76% of sales were for the sci-fi tale set on a distant planet, and MovieTickets had recorded 68% as of 11 a.m. Eastern time.

MovieTickets also reported 188 screenings had already sold out in markets across the U.S, and dozens more were sold out at theaters served by Fandango.

A quick check by HollywoodWiretap on the web site for the Arclight in Hollywood, one of L.A.'s busiest theater complexes, Thursday midnight 3D screenings and Friday evening reserved seat showings were nearly sold out, according to seating charts that showed 20 or fewer remaining seats in multiple auditoriums.

AMC Loews Universal City's midnight Thursday Imax screening was sold out, as was Friday's 8:45 p.m showing.

Premium-priced seats ($22-$29) at high-posh-factor Gold Class Cinemas' Pasadena, Calif., and Redmond, Wash., venues were already sold out for individual screenings on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Theaters equipped for 3D presentations represent the bulk of "Avatar" bookings, with 2,100 locations scheduled for digital 3D showings and 1,200 for 2D.

The exact number of 3D screens is difficult to determine because some theaters have multiple 3D auditoriums but many do not. Some multiplexes also have Imax 3D as well as regular digital 3D formats.

Imax reported 178 venues domestically are booked for "Avatar: An Imax 3D Experience" and another 83 locations abroad in the company's widest theatrical release yet. Imax has recorded 90 sellouts so far worldwide.

Another 3D movie, "Disney's A Christmas Carol," was running a distant second on MovieTickets with 6% of all sales. Interestingly, Disney's classic-style hand-drawn animated "The Princess and the Frog" was in second place with 5% of sales on Fandango, where Fox's "Alvin and the Chipmunks 2: The Squeakquel" also has registered on moviegoers' radar with 4% of advance sales, in third.
 
Just came back from the theater. I LOVED the movie. Seriously. And it looks so freakin amazing

i will watch it again, this week end but in 3D for sure !!
 
stuburns said:
I want to know more about 720p/60fps, seems odd, I would have though 4k/120Hz
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's full of shit in regards to this. If he was in a real IMAX theater it would be projected on film, and the movie was shot at 24fps. 720p would look like garbage on such a big screen. Even on an IMAX digital screen they'd have at least a 2K projector.
 
polyh3dron said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's full of shit in regards to this. If he was in a real IMAX theater it would be projected on film, and the movie was shot at 24fps. 720p would look like garbage on such a big screen. Even on an IMAX digital screen they'd have at least a 2K projector.

wow, keep cool man :) I will ask them on Thursday. And it is a real IMAX theatre, whatever an unreal one may be.

edit: and yeah, it would look like garbage given the size

edit2: for what it's worth: the 720/60p was projected onto the screen. it most certainly could come from a different projector than they used for the movie, because all of you are talking about 2K to 4K res
 
mckmas8808 said:
Nope the news just came out this morning. It got 3 other noms too.
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banKai said:
wow, keep cool man :) I will ask them on Thursday. And it is a real IMAX theatre, whatever an unreal one may be.

edit: and yeah, it would look like garbage given the size
An "unreal" IMAX theater is one with a smaller screen than the real ones and digital projection.
 
polyh3dron said:
An "unreal" IMAX theater is one with a smaller screen than the real ones and digital projection.

I see. If I had to compare it to this, then our imax theater is unreal.

Byakuya769 said:
Sans the opinion of the "2-d only" crowd, can I get some input on which format I should look to watch this in?

go for 3D. Although I sat in the wrong row etc. it still blew my mind :) So sit as far back as you can and enjoy 3D
 
polyh3dron said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's full of shit in regards to this. If he was in a real IMAX theater it would be projected on film, and the movie was shot at 24fps. 720p would look like garbage on such a big screen. Even on an IMAX digital screen they'd have at least a 2K projector.

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Byakuya769 said:
I mean realD vs. Imax etc?

well, as it seems that our movie theater is "shit" I can only say that the movie was said to be in IMAX 3D :D

so you guys seem to be far ahead with the latest cinema technique :)
 
Either IMAX is better than Real D based on my experience.

Fake IMAX has better glasses, better sound and the image seemed even better, even though both fake IMAX and Real D and digitally projected.

True IMAX trumps both in terms of sound (no comparison at ALL) and the screen is literally something like 10x bigger - a completely immersing experience. The only thing is that it is not projected digitally, so in scenes with fast pans, it is more prone to blurriness.

IMO true IMAX is the best way to experience this film first.
 
Scullibundo said:
Either IMAX is better than Real D based on my experience.

Fake IMAX has better glasses, better sound and the image seemed even better, even though both fake IMAX and Real D and digitally projected.

True IMAX trumps both in terms of sound (no comparison at ALL) and the screen is literally something like 10x bigger - a completely immersing experience. The only thing is that it is not projected digitally, so in scenes with fast pans, it is more prone to blurriness.

IMO true IMAX is the best way to experience this film first.

Man, I am wondering if I should see this first on my True Imax now... I saw Christmas Carol with a friend and he said the blurriness was bothersome (didn't really bother me), but then I watched it on RealD and the blurriness wasn't there as much... but the sound/picture size definitely is a loss in some ways....

fuck
 
Do iiiiit!

Book for IMAX this weekend. Fuck I'm going to be trying to get more IMAX tickets for this weekend I just know it.

Also, I thought you disappeared from the thread. :lol
 
Just back from the theater :

It was awesome. It reminded me Terminator 2 for some reason ( maybe the same director ; ) ) . The script is very simple, yet very well written. The characters are also not very complex, but hey not everybody is Hamlet.

I can't wait to see it again in 3D.

I had the impression it was quite blurry though, maybe an artifact of the 3D -> 2D?
 
Damn, 3 tickets to IMAX was 51 dollars. :o
Should be worth it though!
 
ClosingADoor said:
Can't really pick one thing that makes the movie that great. Just watch it and you'll see for yourself :P

stuburns said:
Fucking Kate from Lost is in it.

It's actually just an excellent film, it's surprisingly nonjudgmental for a war film, it has a very interesting non-3 act form, it's well written, the acting is amazing. It's pretty intense.

polyh3dron said:
It's a badass war movie about Badass soldiers doing badass things. It's more focused on tension than all out action though. I honestly don't know why it didn't get a larger marketing push because it could have easily appealed to the mainstream.

Sounds like I need to watch it.
 
Raxus said:
3-D impressions? Better in IMAX or am I not missing much if I see it in a regular theater?

A few posts above yours it is explained. It is explained on like every page in this thread.

My own fault I suppose for not writing it in the OP - but then nobody would ever look back to the OP and I would have to keep posting 'Look in the OP!'.
 
Dabookerman said:
For those who have seen the Hurt Locker, could you guys tell me why it's so good?

Tension you could cut with a knife.

Great characters,and no music ruining scenes, i wish more films didn't feel the need to have overbearing music to help along a scene. A man in his bomb suit with some cutters and the soft blowing sound of the wind is more than enough.

But yeah see it. Don't expect an action film it's slow and it works for that,if you're one of those people who have film ADD i'd give it a pass.
 
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