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I didn't realize this was out, thought sherlock holmes was the same week for some reason. When I realized, I saw there was a showing in 10 minutes at my local theater, checked that it was RealD (it is), then went. Just got back.
Random thoughts as I collect myself, then I'll read the thread.
The opening 15 minutes were, well, pretty bad. Caricature after caricature as they set things up with the military guys and the scientists, who are both annoying and dumb while making fun of each other as annoying and dumb. I shouldn't be surprised, since James Cameron is not a great writer and he lives off this sort of stuff (see: Aliens in particular).
After it settled in (and it sure settled in with that 3 hour running time) they toned down the annoying bits and found new slightly less annoying bits. So, if you've ever seen those made-for-3d IMAX short films they're usually about hitting you over the head with how cool you're supposed to think they are. Actually, I saw James Cameron's deep sea 3d imax spectacle, and there were more reaction shots of the people being amazed at what they're seeing than what they're actually seeing. This can be a problem in the IMAX short films, and there's some carryover here. Not in reaction shots, but in the director being a little overeager with "AWESOME" playing really loudly in his head as he's designing these sequences. You're supposed to be swept up in the wonder of it all and be amazed over and over again, and that it's merely cool makes it fall flatter than it would've if they just played it straight. If you get my meaning there. But it's not a huge problem; Cameron doesn't go overboard. More of a niggle in the background here and there.
Pandora. Not necessarily living up to its full potential. I mean, I was in Kauai a couple weeks ago and it's about equal with Pandora visually, so they should've tried a little harder for something unique and stunning with their limitless magic CG powers. The art direction grew on me a little over the course of the film, but it's pretty generic, from the environments (as mentioned, been there done that crossed with like Final Fantasy X) to the space cat people and space panthers and space birds. Now they were of course going for a level of familiarity that the audience could connect to, but there was just nothing of interest there aesthetically.
The CG in general...well, it's good. It's good enough that I wasn't distracted by things feeling out of place or disconnected or artificial, good enough that I could get into what was going on and the scenes with human Sam Worthington were where I felt disconnected. I think they leveraged that pretty well with the paralysis vs freedom of the main character.
The 3d...Avatar doesn't change my mind about it. Just like the last one I saw, Up, it starts out feeling really awkward and a little impressed for the first 45-60 minutes, then I forget it's even there and I'm not sure that it conveys anything more so than 2d film. It's cool, but it's a gimmick in its current form. Motion resolution seems to be a problem, with those running towards the camera scenes or any sort of fast movement with significant depth not seeming to have much resolution going on. It just looks weird. It also lends itself to feeling uneven, with some scenes trying for a lot of pop and some staying mostly flat. The transition can be a little jarring. As far as the jarring transition of going into the 3d mode of the film itself, I don't think that'll really go away entirely until the technology improves, maybe until no glasses are required for the effect and the depth feels more real. We'll see.
Back to the story and all that. It gets the basics down pretty well, like I said after the story settles in it's fine and a fun ride to the conclusion. There's also zero quick cut shaky cam thank you James Cameron for not being a moron unlike 99% of hollywood. You could argue CG movie in this case, but it's also his general style. So, yeah, some props for that, and the action, what there is in terms of proper stuff, is pretty good. There isn't all that much of it, though, aside from the final set piece. The rest is more "oh shit adventure" sort of fare as blue Sam Worthington learns the ropes, which is fine and suits the film and keeps it flowing.
The romance angle. Hum. It's pretty...brief? I mean, when it comes down to it his relationship with blue cat girl is really the thing that ties him to the Na'avi and Pandora and everything, it's what brings him to the other side and makes him fight for them. But the relationship-related stuff is about five minutes long, in a three hour film. Maybe it didn't focus test well, because when blue cat girl pushes the little bit of cloth aside and jumps on blue Sam Worthington's dick right there on camera in the forest and they get at it (PG-13, sheesh!) my audience broke out in very loud awkward laughter. Or maybe the CG related to them touching each other realistically was too expensive, I don't know; they did a hell of a job with that in the scenes where it was present, totally seamless with some sick close-up shots for good measure. But yeah, it takes a back seat to blue Sam Worthington exploring Pandora and hitting you over the head with as much cg as they could muster. That's fine, but maybe a more developed angle here would've made the film stronger in the long-term, when the "zomg cg zomg 3d" effect on Avatar's audience is long gone. Just a thought.
Okay, so blue Sam Worthington finds his spunky blue cat girl and they mate and become life partners in...three months, even though she knows he's just in a remote control body (...) and human Sam Worthington is really small in comparison and probably wouldn't be able to make her happy in bed (maybe with his leg...oh wait, paralyzed!). But we'll play that off as her knowing that somehow the Great Internet Tree would just be able to give him a permanent upload if it came to that. Sure, why not.
Great Tree Internet of Ghosts and Fiber Optic Cables. Okay. I kinda took issue with concept this when they introduced it, having the feeling of, "so murdering sentient aliens on their own planet and chopping down their lush rainforest home for space gold is sort of wrong, but that might not be enough for our Republican audience who probably have stock in Burn the Amazon Rainforest Ltd. They'll probably laugh at the forest deity, too, since there is obviously only Jesus our lord and savior and these stupid blue cat people should abandon their silly tree and go to church and use their constitutional rights to get some AR-15s." So instead of the Na'avi just having typical tribal spirituality stuff going on, they have the GREAT TREE INTERNET which totally legitimizes their faith and makes the evil space gold corporation even more evil for dismissing it. Yeah.
But that facilitates the perma-upload at the end, which brings us to another point. Sam Worthington's character is, for all intents, a WoW addict. He lets his real body atrophy, barely cares about eating, and plays the Blue Sam Worthington on the Cool Planet game all day long. The bad men want to cancel his subscription and he gets violent; he had an in-game wedding, after all, and has to go be with his Night Elf bride. Let's just leave it at that.
So to them, this alien guy in a remote controlled fleshpuppet becomes one of them in a whole three months, then five minutes later is a traitor, then he tames a really big bird and they lower their gazes in reverence. Kay. Speaking of, while they're bombarding us with lush full cg scene after cg scene, they could've done something with the big bird taming sequence. As in showing it, being that it's a pivotal moment for Sam Worthington's character. No excuses about there already being one, since it's under vastly different circumstances. Minor annoyance though, I'll accept that as an excuse, it's just that this is a spectacle flick.
While I'm nitpicking a little, I was a little underwhelmed with blue Sam Worthington's fight with blue warrior guy for alpha manliness cred. Considering warrior guy beats like 10 armed marines in close quarters in slow motion later on before biting quite a few bullets, blue Sam Worthington does a little three hit combo and takes care of him easily in their duel. Lame! Had he used some sick modern CQC moves to show him up it could've been a badass scene, but instead it's nothing in particular and doesn't convey the sense that warrior guy is worthwhile in the least, just an angry native who's full of himself.
Some more nitpicking: the big battle. One thing I really don't care for is how movie battle set pieces can often only seem to operate with one side completely winning 100% at any given time. So it starts out and the Na'avi kick ass and are totally fine and no Na'avi are dying, and then it instantly shifts and it's *just* Na'avi dying while the military guys unload on them, and then all the animals come out and it shifts back 100% in the other direction. You can see it in the LotR movies, too. I don't care for it, do a better job conveying the momentum of a battle, k?
So lots of people and People die and we get to the real battle, blue Sam Worthington vs Colonel Evil. He's in full caricature mode from the time things go hot on Pandora, and he gets in his mech and does his final boss thing here at the end. They establish blue Sam Worthington being able to survive this epic fall earlier in the film, and ends up working fairly well if a little predictably, just with a cool roll and hop at the end in a moment of badassery.
The badassery continues as blue Sam Worthington duels Colonel Evil's mech in hand to robot combat....but, despite this being a cool scene overall, I was pretty miffed at how he was parrying and blocking these attacks from the mech's melee weapon head on. I'm sorry, but it's a MECH, and with the hard time blue cat girl had with carrying blue Sam Worthington when he logged off WoW in front of the bulldozer, the Na'avi aren't extraordinarily physically strong. It's a mech. You can't "lock swords" with a damn MECH if you're relatively person-powered. Took me out of the scene somewhat.
And then it ends. The evil space gold corporation goes to the rainforest concentration camp and then gets booted back to future dystopiearth where they're stuck with computer internet instead of space tree internet. Their loss! And Sam Worthington dies, oh, except he saw 2001: A Space Odyssey effects (just like in the remote control bed!) so his soul was transferred through the tree fiber optics and there are no lingering philosophical questions, I guess. Hrmph!
Well then. I certainly don't usually spend two hours typing up movie impressions when I get back from the theater, so Avatar has probably succeeded. It doesn't do everything right by any stretch, it uses a lot of annoying tropes and it's somewhat unbalanced and the extremely one dimensional characters very much take a back seat to the attempt at mesmerizing us with the full potential of CG, but there's nothing there that's quite enough to seriously harm the experience aspect of it. Yeah, I liked it. It's not anywhere near film of the year (Inglourious), but it's comfortable on the top 10 for what it brings to the table (not writing, that's for sure). Cameron may be senile but he's still capable of a good flick.
Hope you made it through the poorly written two hours of stream of consciousness impressions with your brain intact, but I like doing this sort of thing sometimes when the experience is fresh and before I get too analytical about it, done in the vein of a casual conversation. If I'm hitting on things that everyone else is, oh well, since I haven't read the thread at all yet (will do so now).
I didn't realize this was out, thought sherlock holmes was the same week for some reason. When I realized, I saw there was a showing in 10 minutes at my local theater, checked that it was RealD (it is), then went. Just got back.
Random thoughts as I collect myself, then I'll read the thread.
The opening 15 minutes were, well, pretty bad. Caricature after caricature as they set things up with the military guys and the scientists, who are both annoying and dumb while making fun of each other as annoying and dumb. I shouldn't be surprised, since James Cameron is not a great writer and he lives off this sort of stuff (see: Aliens in particular).
After it settled in (and it sure settled in with that 3 hour running time) they toned down the annoying bits and found new slightly less annoying bits. So, if you've ever seen those made-for-3d IMAX short films they're usually about hitting you over the head with how cool you're supposed to think they are. Actually, I saw James Cameron's deep sea 3d imax spectacle, and there were more reaction shots of the people being amazed at what they're seeing than what they're actually seeing. This can be a problem in the IMAX short films, and there's some carryover here. Not in reaction shots, but in the director being a little overeager with "AWESOME" playing really loudly in his head as he's designing these sequences. You're supposed to be swept up in the wonder of it all and be amazed over and over again, and that it's merely cool makes it fall flatter than it would've if they just played it straight. If you get my meaning there. But it's not a huge problem; Cameron doesn't go overboard. More of a niggle in the background here and there.
Pandora. Not necessarily living up to its full potential. I mean, I was in Kauai a couple weeks ago and it's about equal with Pandora visually, so they should've tried a little harder for something unique and stunning with their limitless magic CG powers. The art direction grew on me a little over the course of the film, but it's pretty generic, from the environments (as mentioned, been there done that crossed with like Final Fantasy X) to the space cat people and space panthers and space birds. Now they were of course going for a level of familiarity that the audience could connect to, but there was just nothing of interest there aesthetically.
The CG in general...well, it's good. It's good enough that I wasn't distracted by things feeling out of place or disconnected or artificial, good enough that I could get into what was going on and the scenes with human Sam Worthington were where I felt disconnected. I think they leveraged that pretty well with the paralysis vs freedom of the main character.
The 3d...Avatar doesn't change my mind about it. Just like the last one I saw, Up, it starts out feeling really awkward and a little impressed for the first 45-60 minutes, then I forget it's even there and I'm not sure that it conveys anything more so than 2d film. It's cool, but it's a gimmick in its current form. Motion resolution seems to be a problem, with those running towards the camera scenes or any sort of fast movement with significant depth not seeming to have much resolution going on. It just looks weird. It also lends itself to feeling uneven, with some scenes trying for a lot of pop and some staying mostly flat. The transition can be a little jarring. As far as the jarring transition of going into the 3d mode of the film itself, I don't think that'll really go away entirely until the technology improves, maybe until no glasses are required for the effect and the depth feels more real. We'll see.
Back to the story and all that. It gets the basics down pretty well, like I said after the story settles in it's fine and a fun ride to the conclusion. There's also zero quick cut shaky cam thank you James Cameron for not being a moron unlike 99% of hollywood. You could argue CG movie in this case, but it's also his general style. So, yeah, some props for that, and the action, what there is in terms of proper stuff, is pretty good. There isn't all that much of it, though, aside from the final set piece. The rest is more "oh shit adventure" sort of fare as blue Sam Worthington learns the ropes, which is fine and suits the film and keeps it flowing.
The romance angle. Hum. It's pretty...brief? I mean, when it comes down to it his relationship with blue cat girl is really the thing that ties him to the Na'avi and Pandora and everything, it's what brings him to the other side and makes him fight for them. But the relationship-related stuff is about five minutes long, in a three hour film. Maybe it didn't focus test well, because when blue cat girl pushes the little bit of cloth aside and jumps on blue Sam Worthington's dick right there on camera in the forest and they get at it (PG-13, sheesh!) my audience broke out in very loud awkward laughter. Or maybe the CG related to them touching each other realistically was too expensive, I don't know; they did a hell of a job with that in the scenes where it was present, totally seamless with some sick close-up shots for good measure. But yeah, it takes a back seat to blue Sam Worthington exploring Pandora and hitting you over the head with as much cg as they could muster. That's fine, but maybe a more developed angle here would've made the film stronger in the long-term, when the "zomg cg zomg 3d" effect on Avatar's audience is long gone. Just a thought.
Okay, so blue Sam Worthington finds his spunky blue cat girl and they mate and become life partners in...three months, even though she knows he's just in a remote control body (...) and human Sam Worthington is really small in comparison and probably wouldn't be able to make her happy in bed (maybe with his leg...oh wait, paralyzed!). But we'll play that off as her knowing that somehow the Great Internet Tree would just be able to give him a permanent upload if it came to that. Sure, why not.
Great Tree Internet of Ghosts and Fiber Optic Cables. Okay. I kinda took issue with concept this when they introduced it, having the feeling of, "so murdering sentient aliens on their own planet and chopping down their lush rainforest home for space gold is sort of wrong, but that might not be enough for our Republican audience who probably have stock in Burn the Amazon Rainforest Ltd. They'll probably laugh at the forest deity, too, since there is obviously only Jesus our lord and savior and these stupid blue cat people should abandon their silly tree and go to church and use their constitutional rights to get some AR-15s." So instead of the Na'avi just having typical tribal spirituality stuff going on, they have the GREAT TREE INTERNET which totally legitimizes their faith and makes the evil space gold corporation even more evil for dismissing it. Yeah.
But that facilitates the perma-upload at the end, which brings us to another point. Sam Worthington's character is, for all intents, a WoW addict. He lets his real body atrophy, barely cares about eating, and plays the Blue Sam Worthington on the Cool Planet game all day long. The bad men want to cancel his subscription and he gets violent; he had an in-game wedding, after all, and has to go be with his Night Elf bride. Let's just leave it at that.
So to them, this alien guy in a remote controlled fleshpuppet becomes one of them in a whole three months, then five minutes later is a traitor, then he tames a really big bird and they lower their gazes in reverence. Kay. Speaking of, while they're bombarding us with lush full cg scene after cg scene, they could've done something with the big bird taming sequence. As in showing it, being that it's a pivotal moment for Sam Worthington's character. No excuses about there already being one, since it's under vastly different circumstances. Minor annoyance though, I'll accept that as an excuse, it's just that this is a spectacle flick.
While I'm nitpicking a little, I was a little underwhelmed with blue Sam Worthington's fight with blue warrior guy for alpha manliness cred. Considering warrior guy beats like 10 armed marines in close quarters in slow motion later on before biting quite a few bullets, blue Sam Worthington does a little three hit combo and takes care of him easily in their duel. Lame! Had he used some sick modern CQC moves to show him up it could've been a badass scene, but instead it's nothing in particular and doesn't convey the sense that warrior guy is worthwhile in the least, just an angry native who's full of himself.
Some more nitpicking: the big battle. One thing I really don't care for is how movie battle set pieces can often only seem to operate with one side completely winning 100% at any given time. So it starts out and the Na'avi kick ass and are totally fine and no Na'avi are dying, and then it instantly shifts and it's *just* Na'avi dying while the military guys unload on them, and then all the animals come out and it shifts back 100% in the other direction. You can see it in the LotR movies, too. I don't care for it, do a better job conveying the momentum of a battle, k?
So lots of people and People die and we get to the real battle, blue Sam Worthington vs Colonel Evil. He's in full caricature mode from the time things go hot on Pandora, and he gets in his mech and does his final boss thing here at the end. They establish blue Sam Worthington being able to survive this epic fall earlier in the film, and ends up working fairly well if a little predictably, just with a cool roll and hop at the end in a moment of badassery.
The badassery continues as blue Sam Worthington duels Colonel Evil's mech in hand to robot combat....but, despite this being a cool scene overall, I was pretty miffed at how he was parrying and blocking these attacks from the mech's melee weapon head on. I'm sorry, but it's a MECH, and with the hard time blue cat girl had with carrying blue Sam Worthington when he logged off WoW in front of the bulldozer, the Na'avi aren't extraordinarily physically strong. It's a mech. You can't "lock swords" with a damn MECH if you're relatively person-powered. Took me out of the scene somewhat.
And then it ends. The evil space gold corporation goes to the rainforest concentration camp and then gets booted back to future dystopiearth where they're stuck with computer internet instead of space tree internet. Their loss! And Sam Worthington dies, oh, except he saw 2001: A Space Odyssey effects (just like in the remote control bed!) so his soul was transferred through the tree fiber optics and there are no lingering philosophical questions, I guess. Hrmph!
Well then. I certainly don't usually spend two hours typing up movie impressions when I get back from the theater, so Avatar has probably succeeded. It doesn't do everything right by any stretch, it uses a lot of annoying tropes and it's somewhat unbalanced and the extremely one dimensional characters very much take a back seat to the attempt at mesmerizing us with the full potential of CG, but there's nothing there that's quite enough to seriously harm the experience aspect of it. Yeah, I liked it. It's not anywhere near film of the year (Inglourious), but it's comfortable on the top 10 for what it brings to the table (not writing, that's for sure). Cameron may be senile but he's still capable of a good flick.
Hope you made it through the poorly written two hours of stream of consciousness impressions with your brain intact, but I like doing this sort of thing sometimes when the experience is fresh and before I get too analytical about it, done in the vein of a casual conversation. If I'm hitting on things that everyone else is, oh well, since I haven't read the thread at all yet (will do so now).
SCULLIBUNDO
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legend166 said:
I loved her character even more on rewatch. Before I saw the film I actually thought all the super-nerds would start geeking out about Neytiri as an interesting character, whilst to me she looked disappointing when compared to the Ripley, Sarah Connor, Mrs. Hickman etc. After two viewings I can say that whilst she isn't as fleshed out, I am in love with her character. Of course she still doesn't touch Ripley, but then nobody does. I sure as hell like Neytiri more than Sarah Connor.
Auron_Kale
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Just saw AVATAR with my friends, and I'd give the movie a solid B.
Story was very formulatic and the characters were cookie-cutterish, but the presentation was very well-done.
The 3D tech was amazing though. Absolutely amazed at the shots, but then again, James Cameron has always had a good eye for sweeping enviromental shots.
Not sure if I'll see it again, but I did enjoy it better than I thought it'd be.
Story was very formulatic and the characters were cookie-cutterish, but the presentation was very well-done.
The 3D tech was amazing though. Absolutely amazed at the shots, but then again, James Cameron has always had a good eye for sweeping enviromental shots.
Not sure if I'll see it again, but I did enjoy it better than I thought it'd be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_of_Mars_(film)
OK. Andrew Stanton is supposedly being bullied into making this 3D. An Avatar success will presumably make that pressure even greater.
Right ?
(I'm still exceedingly hyped if it's not 3D).
OK. Andrew Stanton is supposedly being bullied into making this 3D. An Avatar success will presumably make that pressure even greater.
Right ?
(I'm still exceedingly hyped if it's not 3D).
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I gave Fox $35 in viewings (not including the food which is probably more) over a 2 day period. And will probably see it 1 more time before the long wait to DVD/BD. But got damn do I feel dirty spending so much money at the movies.
I wish there was more of the love story as well. It was shockingly brief, and every scene between Jake and Neytiri was fantastic, especially those scenes towards the beginning when he's doing his initiation thing. Their relationship hit a chord with me and I really wish it would've been developed much further and been a more significant part the core of the storyline and character motivations.
One thing I noticed was Michelle Rodriguez. She was surprisingly good here. She also had some excellent scenes. I entirely forgot that this was Rodriguez during the entire film. Its the best character she got and somehow, was a lot more feminine than her usual characters, even though she's a one man army at one point in the film.
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So I just saw a movie that apparently was made in the year 2025. Holy mother of fuck.
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Gary Whitta said:
Wrath2X said:
As soon as he confirms it as his next project. I think it will be embraced a lot earlier than AVATAR was.
stuburns said:
Yeah but it didn't feel developed enough to have reached that point. She basically
saves him and he falls in love with her.
And I really can't say enough about the visuals. I finished Avatar a couple hours ago and I'm still in complete disbelief at the quality of the CGI.
I mean that shit was absolutely mind-blowing. I think I did lots of blinking.
Watching this movie in 3D has me thinking what other implications we could use the 3D technology for. I dunno if such a thing exist or is in the works, but I think it would make sense for the technology to venture off into cameras. Snap a shot, upload it to a 3D projector (maybe future 3D tvs), and there you have your 3D images.
Karma Kramer
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Avatar was like a strange dream. As soon as its over you kind of freeze mentally, still trying to process everything. And its overwhelming. But as the hours pass by you begin to recall the details of Pandora, you remember it more as a character then as a place. It has emotion. Remembering
. Maybe sounds a little ridiculous, but Avatar was an experience unlike anything else. I hope we see sequels, because there is definitely more meat left on this bone.
the mother tree burn to the ground, was like remembering a terrible memory in your own life, its so visually striking, your brain confuses it with reality
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Zeliard said:
The entire plot course of AVATAR has been done before. You can compare it to Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, the smurfs, Ferngully, any movie with a love theme thats shadowed by indigenous vs Empire etc.
jillytot said:Is it just me or was there a lot of similarities between this movie and...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-SVpZrnF34
Avatar was absolutely amazing though.
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jillytot said:
It's not just you. The plots are very similar.
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jillytot said:Is it just me or was there a lot of similarities between this movie and...
Really? I don't see the similarities. Frankly I thought it was more akin to City of G-d and Irreversible.
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Karma Kramer said:
Glad to see you liked it.
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Scullibundo said:Glad to see you liked it.
Now I can finally watch that making of a scene video haha
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Zeliard said:
Let me talk to you about details. One of the little things I appreciated in this film was Cameron's attention to the environment the character was acting within.
In any other film, Quaritch would get straight into his mech at the start and show it off for the camera asap. In Cameron's film, before starting it up, he yells behind him 'CLEAR!' and off-screen you hear mechanic or something shout 'Clear' back. Just little things like safety precautions in a factory environment make me happy.
Edit: Jibril has great timing, showing the scene I'm talking about.
I'm going to watch it today, again.
My initial impressions were mixed. I need to give this one more shot to see whether in this viewing the positives outweigh the faults. In any case, as I had said earlier, this is a very well directed action film, regardless of any way you look at it.
My initial impressions were mixed. I need to give this one more shot to see whether in this viewing the positives outweigh the faults. In any case, as I had said earlier, this is a very well directed action film, regardless of any way you look at it.
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Zeliard said:
Seen it twice and will see it again within the next week.
Scullibundo said:
Also, if you pay attention. Before Jake and the team fly off toward the hallelujah mountains. You can hear the crew discussing data-back up procedures. I just love that about Cameron, the detail is immense.
polyh3dron
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So, the insiders' weekend BO predictions have fallen back from $85 to $80 million due to the snowstorms out east but apparently WOM is crazy and so this movie will have AMP suit-powered legs.
Ollie Pooch
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I LOVE that shot. i was trying to describe it in an earlier post then deleted the lot - it reminds me of the wide shots of the Sulaco hangar in Aliens - all the smokey blue lighting and industrial look.Jibril said:
This stunned me, I just love this right here.
saw it on IMAX 3D
incredible movie. so much fun. cant say definitively that it was my favourite movie of 2009, but it WAS the best cinematic experience i've ever had. GORGEOUS. never stopped.
simple analysis:
+ the effects
+ the artistic design of Pandora, and even the base and lab
+ the imaginative creatures
+ the story! (i really enjoyed it - simple, but tied together very well and almost perfectly executed)
+ the final 30-45 minutes (balls to the wall)
+ the 3D (jarring at first, but once i got used to it i began to think i couldnt see it any other way)
- the dialogue at times (many, many lines that demanded rewrites)
- ham-fisted anti-intervention rhetoric (i agree with it! but it brought me out of the experience)
- the indigenous being so human-indigenous. i don't know what else cameron could have done with them, but i found their nature disruptive at times.
incredible movie. so much fun. cant say definitively that it was my favourite movie of 2009, but it WAS the best cinematic experience i've ever had. GORGEOUS. never stopped.
simple analysis:
+ the effects
+ the artistic design of Pandora, and even the base and lab
+ the imaginative creatures
+ the story! (i really enjoyed it - simple, but tied together very well and almost perfectly executed)
+ the final 30-45 minutes (balls to the wall)
+ the 3D (jarring at first, but once i got used to it i began to think i couldnt see it any other way)
- the dialogue at times (many, many lines that demanded rewrites)
- ham-fisted anti-intervention rhetoric (i agree with it! but it brought me out of the experience)
- the indigenous being so human-indigenous. i don't know what else cameron could have done with them, but i found their nature disruptive at times.
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Salazar said:
Honestly.. if he doesn't want to make it 3D.. i hope they don't force him into it.. that would be quite shitty.
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Scullibundo said:
Saw it thrice. 1 imax3d viewing and 2 regular 2D viewings. Don't know if my imaginary/reality threshold can take another viewing without me wanting to move to africa or some shit.
I like how they portrayed Jake being addicted to coming back to his avatar form and pandora...to the point where we see him decay
Its like his original life didn't matter anymore and he's finally found true happiness in this other world.
(skinny legs, just wants to sleep when he wakes up)
Its like his original life didn't matter anymore and he's finally found true happiness in this other world.
Loved the film.
1st half was like watching an iMAX tour film and was pretty so-so. The 1st half was basically all about the 3D and the CG. But then the 2nd half (or what I would call the 2nd half) which was when
and everything after that. After that it was like :O wtf am I watching??
It also made me think back and actually enjoy the way they did the 1st half of the movie.
Some ppl need to stop over-analyzing every single detail in the movie. (EvilLore)
Loved the "subtle" usage of the 3D. It wasnt even subtle though. It was pretty apparent in pretty much every scene but they did have some scenes where it was flatter than usual and I appreciated that because it allowed me to see the scale better. The 3d in the iMAX wasnt as "OMFG this is a big ass screen"-ish as other movies. It was more like I was a cameraman with a new 3D camera and all of these events were happening right in front of me. If you cant notice the 3D in this movie then you need your eyes checked or you need to go to a better theater.
This is all I'm willing to type though.
Really enjoyed the whole experience.
1st half was like watching an iMAX tour film and was pretty so-so. The 1st half was basically all about the 3D and the CG. But then the 2nd half (or what I would call the 2nd half) which was when
the tree blew up
It also made me think back and actually enjoy the way they did the 1st half of the movie.
Some ppl need to stop over-analyzing every single detail in the movie. (EvilLore)
Loved the "subtle" usage of the 3D. It wasnt even subtle though. It was pretty apparent in pretty much every scene but they did have some scenes where it was flatter than usual and I appreciated that because it allowed me to see the scale better. The 3d in the iMAX wasnt as "OMFG this is a big ass screen"-ish as other movies. It was more like I was a cameraman with a new 3D camera and all of these events were happening right in front of me. If you cant notice the 3D in this movie then you need your eyes checked or you need to go to a better theater.
This is all I'm willing to type though.
Really enjoyed the whole experience.
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