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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Whoever goes for another viewing (and you will), just make sure you pay attention to the score during the scene where Jake gives Quaritch the inside info on the Home Tree. Its a simple scene but the score makes it seem like something so much more dire.
It is still his. He abandoned the big red fella as it was no longer needed.
Near said:
It is still his. He abandoned the big red fella as it was no longer needed.
FleckSplat
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Solo said:
I loved the movie, but Papyrus blows.
SCULLIBUNDO
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By the way, how awesome is the slow zoom in during the struggle to make the Ikran bond - until he finally bonds.
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Deleted member 30609
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I really hated the font, though. It was either a standard font available in MS Word with a drop-shadow applies, or it was one very similar. It distracted me. I prefer simple fonts.Solo said:
But yes, the 3D implementation was cool. Especially when it was almost between characters at times. Very cool.
The rear-view mirror mid-way through the final-fight made me smile as well. It was simple, but it caught me off-guard.
Finally got around to seeing this last night (my first ever film in 3D) and have to say it was pretty amazing, even if it didn't totally blow me away.
There were just so many amazing effects and scenes that I've never seen before, and it's all bought together by a decent storyline and mostly endearing (either for good reasons or bad) characters.
I did find the applause from the other cinema go'ers quite unnerving at the end though.
There were just so many amazing effects and scenes that I've never seen before, and it's all bought together by a decent storyline and mostly endearing (either for good reasons or bad) characters.
I did find the applause from the other cinema go'ers quite unnerving at the end though.
rockman zx
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I noticed the second time watching the movie that there is a huge jumps between video logs. I wonder if they will add some to the dvd/blu ray release.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Who is betting the next trailer for a Cameron film just say 'From James Cameron, director of AVATAR'. I'd still like some Terminator in there, but whatever.
Also, did anybody else notice that the pictures that Grace had inside her station were in 3D?
Also, did anybody else notice that the pictures that Grace had inside her station were in 3D?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Solo said:
I think it was 12 minute first person sequence and it was MARKETSAW. :lol
Metroid Killer
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Also the Navi don't seem to hesitate killing humans (jake was lucky with the seed thingy afterall). So you have toxic air, pissed-off space creatures and giant native people all trying to kill you... Yup I'd say Pandora is pretty deadly.
near
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Scullibundo said:
We don't see him abandoning the red ikran like banshee, the last scene it was apparent is were it brings Jake to the Quaritch and Neytiri fight, we don't see it beyond that point.
Also, I'm totally pissed that Tsu'Tey was killed. What a damn awesome character he was, with an awesome actor. He perfected that fictional language so well that he makes you believe the language exists a certain stages.
DeathbyVolcano
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It's probably been said in this thread before, but sound effects for the horses = raptors in Jurassic Park?
SCULLIBUNDO
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Near said:
He says it in the narration. That with the clans all unified, the Toruk Mato was no longer needed (at this point you see it flying solo into the sunset).
Metroid Killer
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Pay more attention, it was dealt with during the endingNear said:
One thing I want to comment on about the acting in the movie:
When the trailers first showed parts of Jake's big speech to the Navi edited together, I felt it looked very campy and unconvincing. I felt that he didn't really have the ability to sound convincing or to be a leader that the Navi would even follow and it seemed cheesy. In the movie however, when we see that he was essentially EXACTLY what I thought he was - a poor leader figure, no one liked him anymore, he was rejected, but then he comes back to earn their respect with the super dragon, and then actually having his speech made in a very humble way and being translated by Tsu'tay. The entire scene made sense now, and it was brilliant. I think the acting is pretty amazing, and it's a real breakthrough for CG characters to represent this closely actual performances by the cast involved.
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yeah, I thought that scene worked really well as well. it's been a while since I've had a genuine "FUCK YEAH" moment when watching a film.duckroll said:
what I find interesting is that the CG characters often 'acted' a lot more convincingly than their real-life counter-parts. I mean, in theory it's obvious, their gestures and expressions can be tweaked to perfection in post, but all the same, it surprised me.
â Narayan
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Definitely the best scene of this year, in my opinion.Jibril said:
A lot.Solo said:
near
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U K Narayan said:
The best scene had to be
when Neytiri was holding human Jake in her arms imo. It was beautiful because it was the first time the two had actually seen eachother for what they were. Such huge difference in physical scale between them, but little in the love they shared. Served with sweet dialogue... "I see you", defining the theme, it was just too overwhelming. :'(
Metroid Killer
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For some reason the audience started laughing during that scene, pulling me out of it. Goddamn it people, don't fucking interrupt my movie experience >:|Near said:
That sucks. See, I thought it was a bit odd when people applauded at the end, but to laugh over an awesome scene would just be so frustrating.
Saying that, quite a few people in the cinema did laugh at the
, but I was almost with them on that, very weird and cheesy.
Saying that, quite a few people in the cinema did laugh at the
'sex' scene
Story wise, characters wise, this movie was incredibly simple and just sort of a Pocahontas remake.
The 3D sucked, i mean what the fuck? 3D was used so lightly that at the end of the day, it was almost no different of seeing it in digital.
Spectacular visuals though, and it is a fun and feel good movie. I kinda compare it to something like Iron Man, which has a predictable story and characters, and it's all very light, but it does make you smile anyway.
The 3D sucked, i mean what the fuck? 3D was used so lightly that at the end of the day, it was almost no different of seeing it in digital.
Spectacular visuals though, and it is a fun and feel good movie. I kinda compare it to something like Iron Man, which has a predictable story and characters, and it's all very light, but it does make you smile anyway.
DeathbyVolcano
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I lol'd a few times in the movie, usually when the Na'Vi did something sexually suggestive. :lol
Metroid Killer
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Pretty much this, which I found a little bit sad, cause it means they didn't get enough attached to Neytiri.Justinian said:
Enosh
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one thing I realy didn't like was the
kiss, why again do the na'vi have the exact same way to kiss as humans do?
I also didn't like the deus ex machina at the end, I think the movies message of "colonization=bad" would be much more stronger if the na'vi would have actualy lost, to realy show THIS is what happens when you do shit like this and that's why it is bad
I also didn't like the deus ex machina at the end, I think the movies message of "colonization=bad" would be much more stronger if the na'vi would have actualy lost, to realy show THIS is what happens when you do shit like this and that's why it is bad
Justinian said:
When she said "I see you" and started getting all emotional, I did appreciate the emotional clout of the scene. But I am guilty of laughing when she first went in and held him. It was the size difference lol. Her hands just dwarfed his entire body, that and the fact that he was just a little slump compared to her elegant swift and active giant self lol...
WrikaWrek said:
Im not speaking about Avatar in particular. I cannot count how many times Ive seen movies with poignant, uncomfortable or emotional scenes that result in a few idiots snickering, not because the presentation is corny or sappy, but because they dont know how to properly react and/or need to reinforce how cool they think they are.
Just came back from seeing Avatar for the second time, and I have to say that this film just reinforces my belief that James Cameron is one of the top five directors of all time.
On the technical side of things, the CGI models are technical achievements in modern cinema, and the art direction behind them is the best of this generation. The animation itself is suspect in places, most notably in the 1 on 1 action sequences near the end of the movie, but not enough to take away from the rest of the package. Overall, If it were possible, I would like to see this movie being nominated for Best Animated Picture in addition to the numerous other Academy Awards this film will be nominated for, as well over 90% of the movie was animated.
The level of detail in the movie is astounding, yet it is never presented in a way which makes the viewer, and makes feel overwhelmed. The Nav'i's incredible culture is the prime example. Using an entirely new, unique, and functional language, we are introduced to the Nav'i not only through the characters, but through their history, traditions, and religion which are presented to us in their everyday activities through the eyes and ears of an outsider. This makes them feel all the more real and believable. Another example is the history of the Humans and the reasons they are on Pandora, the desires, and the politics and economics of their world. In the movie there is a person which are caricatures of a business mogul, who's only looking out for the bottom line of his employer; the military commander, who is there to protect the operation at all costs; and the scientist, who is tasked with studying the ecosystem of the world. However, neither of them come across as one dimensional, despite the fact that they are, because the reasons they are the way they are are well explained and grounded in the reality that we are all familiar with. While overall, the story is very straight forward and cliche, Cameron did such a good job of hiding it, that that thought never once crossed my mind while I was watching it, and that is the sign of a great director.
On the technical side of things, the CGI models are technical achievements in modern cinema, and the art direction behind them is the best of this generation. The animation itself is suspect in places, most notably in the 1 on 1 action sequences near the end of the movie, but not enough to take away from the rest of the package. Overall, If it were possible, I would like to see this movie being nominated for Best Animated Picture in addition to the numerous other Academy Awards this film will be nominated for, as well over 90% of the movie was animated.
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