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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Onix said:
I don't know the numbers, though in reality I don't think it's that high. This is simply due to the limited availability of 3D theaters versus the number of seats sold. That said, the reports I've read have shown a higher average number of seats sold for 3D viewings versus 2D.
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I haven't seen an updated figure, but this is from opening weekend, when it was that high. Considering how similar the earnings and theater count are to the first week, the mix right now is probably quite similar.

Exhibitors have been racing the clock all year to get 3D screens installed in time for Avatar's opening and the new hardware, which allows for extra high ticket prices, paid off. 3D was available on 59% of the screens but they accounted for 71% of the gross. 2,032 theaters offered at least one extra-dimensional screen for a total of 3,124 3D screens including 178 in IMAX where consumers pay even more.
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http://www.boxofficeguru.com/122109.htm
 
Onix said:
I don't know the numbers, though in reality I don't think it's that high. This is simply due to the limited availability of 3D theaters versus the number of seats sold. That said, the reports I've read have shown a higher average number of seats sold for 3D viewings versus 2D.

What people don't seem to realize though is that this has generally been true of all movies released in 2009. When available, more people go to 3D showings than 2D for most movies.

Whether this will translate to the home market obviously remains to be seen. However, those trying to argue that people simply don't want 3D have no ground to stand on.
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I have heard a number bandied around in the 70%s. Read it in some movie blog/article or something last week. The majority of the showings around here (San Francisco area) are in 3D. I mean there's 3x as many 3D showings as in 2D around here.
 
hirokazu said:
"AVATAR'S LEFTIST DOGMA" was the attraction title on SMH's front page :lol
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Yeah I saw Neytiri picture on the front of the paper and briefly browsed the article. I don't know how these people get paid. The article itself is completely nonsensical. She even insists it had a $500m production budget.
 
DanielPlainview said:
Avatar is projected to hit $341M domestically in it's 17 days at the box office.

17 DAYS!

It took Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (#1 of '09) 114 days to hit $402M

That's insane and WW is even crazier. I really didn't think it would be this strong.
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Only difference? TF2 sucked, Avatar was great.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I haven't seen an updated figure, but this is from opening weekend, when it was that high. Considering how similar the earnings and theater count are to the first week, the mix right now is probably quite similar.


http://www.boxofficeguru.com/122109.htm
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Giolon said:
I have heard a number bandied around in the 70%s. Read it in some movie blog/article or something last week. The majority of the showings around here (San Francisco area) are in 3D. I mean there's 3x as many 3D showings as in 2D around here.
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Ahh, that makes more sense then. I was completely unaware they managed to pull off 59% of screens for this release.
 
TAJ said:
Shallow depth of field does not cause headaches in 2D, otherwise I'd hate Panavision.
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It was about it causing headaches from people trying to force their eyes to focus the out of focus areas in 3D, not about shallow DoF itself causing headaches. I think it was linked from Gizmodo. I'm too lazy to go back and search for it.
 
Scullibundo said:
So once the new updated figure comes in for the B.O.....did AVATAR just take down Star Wars? :O
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The figure at BOM does not include international earnings for Thursday, which have been averaging over $35m this week; they typically get added on Monday in the weekend figures. So add at least $70m for international on Thursday and Friday to the $24m domestic on Friday.

That puts Avatar over $900m right now and at #13 behind Jurassic Park. When Saturday and Sunday hits, it will be over $1b and #3, just ahead of TDK.
Onix said:
Ahh, that makes more sense then. I was completely unaware they managed to pull off 59% of screens for this release.
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Which actually reinforces your point even further. 3D will keep expanding until it's an option on nearly all screens in just another couple years.
 
Scullibundo said:
So once the new updated figure comes in for the B.O.....did AVATAR just take down Star Wars? :O
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Yep (actually, higher)



I still can't believe that all of the Harry Potter movies are within the top 24 (soon to be top 25) ... with 3 in the top 10. Holy fucking hell it prints money :lol
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
is Quaritch 180 years old? there's no way in hell he would know what jujubes are in 2150
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Haven't you heard. Weyland-Yutani was bought out by Wal Mart and subsidized the Jujubes candy market into a monopoly.
 
JayDub said:
Did you get in free and only pay for the small soda? :lol

I demand an explanation
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Ah yeah sorry about that, it was actually $7.75, forgot to add tax. How much did you paid?

I live in Puerto Rico and that's the most money I have paid to see a movie in my life lol.
 
JayDub said:
Did you get in free and only pay for the small soda? :lol

I demand an explanation
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There's a theatre near where I live that has regular showings before noon for $4, and the 3D are $7. I'd imagine he went somewhere similar.

shintoki said:
Haven't you heard. Weyland-Yutani was bought out by Wal Mart and subsidized the Jujubes candy market into a monopoly.
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I'm actually a little disappointed Weyland-Yutani wasn't the corporation in Avatar.
 
fireside said:
I'm actually a little disappointed Weyland-Yutani wasn't the corporation in Avatar.
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On that note, I think there were at least two direct Alien (the first one) references in Avatar. The first is Selfridges's first name (Parker), and the second is
the last line of dialogue in the move, with Jake "signing off" into a video log. In Alien it's Ripley signing off into an audio log.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
is Quaritch 180 years old? there's no way in hell he would know what jujubes are in 2150
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Forget jujubes (they're an actual fruit, not just the nasty candy), how about Grace calling him Ranger Rick?
 
icarus-daedelus said:
You, sir, have a fantastic avatar/username combo. I think we could get along.
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:D

icarus-daedelus said:
The local theater here will give you a decent discount for seeing the first showing of the day (which is around 9 or 10, the bastards! It used to be at 11) which amounted to about 15 bucks for two tickets.
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It was the last showing but they do the same over here with the first showing, don't know how much less it is tho.
 
Saw it today.

Great movie but I'm pretty certain that I'm done with theaters now. People just can't sit in one place for a few hours and be considerate to others.
 
Watched it again last night for the second time in IMAX 3d. Actually enjoyed it more this time around. The cheesy lines of script and some minor plot grievances
why the fuck aren't the humans wearing masks at the very end?; how'd he get the big bird so easily; etc
didn't bother me nearly as much as the first time around. I also feel like this vieweing made me appreciate the best performance in the film - Zoe Saldana as Neytiri deserves an Oscar nom. She really is the heart of the film. So yeah, I was down on this a little bit a few weeks again but next to Hurt Locker, it's the best film of the year. Cameron and his ex win come Oscar season!
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
why the fuck aren't the humans wearing masks at the very end?
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They are wearing masks at the end. I've seen it four times, the most recent one today. Every single person being paraded out to the shuttle was wearing a mask, as well as Norm and Max standing to the side amongst the Na'vi and Avatars.

DevelopmentArrested said:
how'd he get the big bird so easily;
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You have no idea how hard or easy it was for him to bond with toruk. They didn't show it :-p He could have been within an inch of his life for all we know. Likely though, from what we saw, he landed on its back right near the USB ports and got a cheap bond. Really though, how many Na'vi do you think are crazy enough to try a stunt like that?
 
Giolon said:
They are wearing masks at the end. I've seen it four times, the most recent one today. Every single person being paraded out to the shuttle was wearing a mask, as well as Norm and Max standing to the side amongst the Na'vi and Avatars.
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Seconded! I specifically looked for it on my third go around cause I heard people mentioning it. Your definitely right.
 
Salazar said:
Another feather in Avatar's stuffed cap: Miranda Devine, a no-good Australian right-wing op-ed writer, hates it.
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Miranda Devine thought Schappelle Corby was innocent (and spent time with her defence team during the trial) and that Muhamed Haneef was guilty. Miranda Devine was Australia's biggest Sarah Palin fanatic. Miranda Devine ended today's article with the assertion that Juno and Knocked Up would save cinema, and like a petty internet troll, focused on largely insignificant detail that Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel made more money over the Christmas weekend in Britain in order to portray the film as less of a success.

Really, I couldn't have been more pleased to hear that someone hated the film than I was reading her column today.
 
Krev said:
Miranda Devine thought Schappelle Corby was innocent (and spent time with her defence team during the trial) and that Muhamed Haneef was guilty. Miranda Devine was Australia's biggest Sarah Palin fanatic. Miranda Devine ended today's article with the assertion that Juno and Knocked Up would save cinema, and like a petty internet troll, focused on largely insignificant detail that Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel made more money over the Christmas weekend in Britain in order to portray the film as less of a success.

Really, I couldn't have been more pleased to hear that someone hated the film than I was reading her column today.
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I never bother to read her stuff after reading their titles.

Obviously written to provoke controversy and generate clicks for SMH's website.
 
Well, her late and largely unlamented Daddy passed on the gene for cranking out preposterous bullshit.

I really can't believe she would recommend those films above 'Avatar' based almost entirely on her cooked-up ideological objections to it. It's like a mirror image of Pravda's film review supplement.
 
FINALLY saw it tonight, and it was about as awesome as I expected. Unfortunately I have an eye condition that I wont get into, so couldn't appreciate the 3D to the fullest. I will say that the first hour and a half or so was a lot slower than I expected. So much story, I can easily see why someone might not like the movie.

Will watch many more times.
 
StoOgE said:
There were several shots where foreground images that were "popping" out of the screen were out of focus and the focus of the shots were behind these 3d objects.

I think it was a somewhat poor decision because peoples natural tendency is going to be to try and focus on what is on the foreground.

You also get this weird sensation where the viewer is focusing on something that is out of focus while not focusing on something that is in focus. Having stuff pop out of the screen draws attention to it.. while you are simultaneously "focusing" on something in the background.

Seemed like contradictory camera work.

99% of the 3d worked well. I just didn't care for that particular trick that they used a few times.
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I noticed this as well and it's my major (technical) complaint about the movie. I too believe it happened more at the beginning... so I was probably just more used to how I was "supposed" to be viewing, after about ~30 minutes or so.

I still stand by my opinion that it's a weird choice to have 3D elements rendered out of focus. Since it's 3D the eye is naturally drawn to those elements. Then when your eyes see they're out of focus, your brain automatically tries to focus them. But you obviously can't, since the blur is hard-coded on screen :lol

No wonder people have headaches (including my wife and I). We've been trained our whole lives to do specific things with our eyes when we see fuzzy images. Then Avatar comes along and fucks with our eyeballs. No matter how hard our eyes work, those images are gonna remain fuzzy :lol
 
It was especially weird with the arrow sticking out of the screen, but out of focus. Why? Would've been much more awesome in focus.

And also putting the golf ball in the beginning really didn't work.
 
just got back from a 3d showing and all i can say is i NEED to see this in 3d on an imax screen :D

also looks like it'll be a pain in the ass to get imax tix since when we saw that the all the imax shows but the 1am show were sold out i overheard that the next days imax shows were sold out as well :O
 
xrich said:
oh, i forgot to mention how let down i was that this movie didnt take up the whole IMAX screen. such a shame...
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No film not filmed in IMAX fills up the whole screen. For one thing, you'd have to make huge changes to the aspect ratio to do that, and that'd just mean cropping a film that's already low resolution (by IMAX standards).

I'd like to see this in IMAX just once, but I'd need to find someone willing to come to Sydney's nortoriously large screen, and I'd need to find a session that doesn't have the back rows booked out.
 
hirokazu said:
No film not filmed in IMAX fills up the whole screen. For one thing, you'd have to make huge changes to the aspect ratio to do that, and that'd just mean cropping a film that's already low resolution (by IMAX standards).

I'd like to see this in IMAX just once, but I'd need to find someone willing to come to Sydney's nortoriously large screen, and I'd need to find a session that doesn't have the back rows booked out.
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i know that, i was under the impression (the wrong one obviously) that his new camera tech supported imax sizes. the movie was especially small at my IMAX for some reason though. it had black bars on all sides, which obviously meant it could have been bigger. never seen that in a movie at this theater before.
 
Somnia said:
Early Friday estimates just landed with 24m for Friday and they estimate a 58ish weekend. I think they are lowballing it with a 2.4 multiplier personally and I think it'll 65ish. We shall see.
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Probably, but New Year's Day is a big movie going day so it's conceivable it will do less than you'd expect on Saturday. Monday's numbers should be the most interesting ones yet.
 
Saw Avatar in 3D yesterday, being my second time after seeing the regular version last week. 3D is indeed awesome, though I can tell the technology can definitely go even farther than today.

Watching it the second time allowed me to make the connection between certain pieces of dialogue and plot developments. Can definitely remember the same occurring with Titanic.

Reserved my tickets for the IMAX version at the Metreon in San Francisco for this Sunday! Apparently there isn't a true IMAX showing in Tokyo, so I'm catching it the day before I go back.
 
I went to a cinema in Wood Green London and the queues for this movie were insane, still think it's overated though. It's an OK movie, but it is not like the greatest film of all time.
 
Bleepey said:
I went to a cinema in Wood Green London and the queues for this movie were insane, still think it's overated though. It's an OK movie, but it is not like the greatest film of all time.
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I don't think anyone has been making the claim :lol

Btw, is Wood Green still a shit hole?
 
darkwings said:
Avatar is currently hovering around 8-30 best movie of all time. I dont think it should even be in the top100.
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oh noes!

who cares about the imdb voting thing? I don't understand what is the Shawshank Redemption doing at #1, and how in the fuck is Return of the King the highest rated LOTR movie, and a bunch of other rankings.

Even if some people truly think Avatar is the greatest thing ever(and I've seen some youtube comments declaring just that :P) just leave them with their opinion.
 
jett said:
oh noes!

who cares about the imdb voting thing? I don't understand what is the Shawshank Redemption doing at #1, and how in the fuck is Return of the King the highest rated LOTR movie, and a bunch of other rankings.
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Aaaah, you see, the thing is Shawshank actually IS the best movie of all time. No disputes there! ;) It's been my favorite film since it was released and robbed at the Oscars, and I thought it was kind of just my opinion and a few others' that it was so good. I was actually surprised when eventually I saw it so high at the top250. It wasn't always #1 and I saw it trade places with Godfather a few times, but it seems to have been on top for some time now. Of course... it's just an opinion, and especially after being on GAF for a few years boy do I know opinions differ. :lol

Regarding the latest box-office results, for the past few days deadline.com has been the sole source of more up-to-date worldwide info. Are they trustworthy? I'm kinda waiting for boxofficemojo to update their international figures as a few days ago their numbers and deadline's had a certain disparity (when they should have been the same I think).
 
Blader5489 said:
If I saw T2 when I was like 5 years old, I might have loved it. But watching it now, all I see is outdated effects, shitty actors, and fucking CHEESE.
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I hope you're saying this whack ass shit about TDK in 10 years.

sm(motherfucking)h

jett said:
Why would they? Fox doesn't have the rights to it. :P
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Whoops, my bad. Still, Id be less than shocked if WB hadnt picked up the phone :lol
 
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