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[SCULLIBUNDO]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0810982862/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Scroll down to the customer video review, he flips through the book so you can get a feel for it.

Not sure if that was for the benefit of everyone else or myself, but I think you and I are probably on par as far as being Cameron fans go, so um, yeah. I know.

Did you know I have a signed picture of him and his oscars

Spoiler

that I purchased off Ebay when I was 16.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Did you know I have a signed picture of him and his oscars

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that I purchased off Ebay when I was 16.

:lol

I have a bootleg copy of the original annotated Titanic script!

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That a friend got from somewhere she refused to disclose.

The guy from the Amazon review put up some pictures of the art book on his blog. The face and body sketches are the ones from Cameron I mentioned:

One of the environment paintings:

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Cool.

 

[Dead]

speaking of book, has anyone found the new Cinefex in stores yet?

Here is an image from the mag:

For anyone who has seen the 2D feature, was it this colorful?

 

[Fox Mulder]

Why are you guys even talking about the already obsolete 3dTVs that are coming out next years? Glasses are so old tech when there's these beauties.

3D without glasses
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/magnetic-unveils-a-clutch-of-glasses-free-3d-displays/

phillips talked about a 2160p autostereoscopic 3d tv they made, but it's like $25k. So obviously it'll take a few years to get down to us lowly peasants.

 

[GhaleonEB]

speaking of book, has anyone found the new Cinefex in stores yet?

Nope, but you can order it from the Cinefex site. Not that I would ever do such a thing.

 

[StoOgE]

If it hits 1.3B this weekend.. it seems all but assured of sinking Titanic worldwide.. and maybe by a very very large margin.

 

[Krev]

so i just saw the movie on Sunday night. It was actually better than I was expecting going in. Oddly enough the 3D is what threw me off. It was obviously a gorgeous movie, and the 3D as an effect worked, but it kind of made the movie seem faded and blurry.

My advice: try a different theatre. Some haven't used the appropriate projection equipment for 3D and vibrancy ends up being significantly reduced.

 

[_Isaac]

Yes, on a plane trip with Stan Winston, Stan was talking to him about how he should design it and Cameron expressed that he always wanted to see a monster with mandibles on the front of its face. Stan liked the idea so much that he started with that and worked backwards on the Predator. Then Bungie, loving Cameron's cock so much and running out of juice from Aliens, decided to put mandibles on the Elites.

Cameron is like the Forrest Gump of cinema. It's like he was involved in everything.

 

[Raistlin]

Why are you guys even talking about the already obsolete 3dTVs that are coming out next years? Glasses are so old tech when there's these beauties.

3D without glasses
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/magnetic-unveils-a-clutch-of-glasses-free-3d-displays/

We should probably wait until they are demoed. The majority of auto-stereoscopic screens that have been prototyped have very limited viewing angles. That could work fine for a monitor, but obviously has issues if used in a normal TV. Plus, we don't know the actual performance of it in other regards.

Cautious optimism is the name of the game.

 

[Raistlin]

Nope, but you can order it from the Cinefex site. Not that I would ever do such a thing.

I haven't looked for it, but Borders carries Cinefex (or at least some do). Probably B&N too.

I've thumbed through a few issues when stuck in Schaumburg, Il.

God dammit, If I'm understanding the above posts correctly, it looks like we won't be getting 1080p60 3D.

FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I suspect you are misunderstanding the implications. Mind explain where you see a problem?

 

[Krev]

Cameron is like the Forrest Gump of cinema. It's like he was involved in everything.

In the early 90s Cameron met Guillermo del Toro and let him stay in his guest house when he was having difficulty finding accommodation. Years later, he helped track down the hostage negotiators and put up the ransom money when del Toro's father was kidnapped by a gang in Mexico.

 

[LeMaximilian]

Got my Avatar Cinefex from a Barnes & Noble the other day.

 

[GrandTheftAero]

speaking of book, has anyone found the new Cinefex in stores yet?

Nope, but you can order it from the Cinefex site. Not that I would ever do such a thing.

I'd love to get my hands on this issue... does anybody outside the US ever ordered through the Cinefex website?

 

[Raistlin]

I actually wouldn't mind a subscription.


I'm torn between getting the print version of the digital. It would be nice if they gave you the digital for free along with the paper.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Serious question - how soon can one expect This Is Not AVATAR: The XXX Parody?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I think AVATAR will be the film to parody come MTV movie awards night.

 

[Extollere]

Just saw this in 3D. Late the party I know.

Good movie, bad graphics.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Just saw this in 3D. Late the party I know.

mediocre movie, bad graphics.

Other way around bucko.

 

[Mik2121]

:lol

I have a bootleg copy of the original annotated Titanic script!

Spoiler

That a friend got from somewhere she refused to disclose.

The guy from the Amazon review put up some pictures of the art book on his blog. The face and body sketches are the ones from Cameron I mentioned:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4164970001_c013984518.jpg[IMG]

One of the environment paintings:

[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4164973979_db547e6a1b.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

FUCK. I'm buying that book tomorrow. They have it on a bookstore near my house.

 

[Gui_PT]

Just saw this in 3D. Late the party I know.

Great movie, even better graphics.

There we go

 

[Mik2121]

Just saw this in 3D. Late the party I know.

Good movie, bad graphics.

You're blind? :/

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Other way around bucko.

The faces weren't very good in this. Probably just because the proportions of the faces in the eye and nose regions is so fucking awful when you have the actor's expressions pasted onto them. It really didn't feel like they got better results than if they just used make-up like star trek or planet of the apes. I mean, the CG was of course impressive in parts like during the action scenes (which there weren't enough of unfortunately).

 

[Gui_PT]

The faces weren't very good in this. Probably just because the proportions of the faces and the eyes and everything looks so fucking awful. It really didn't feel like they got better results than just using make-up. The action scenes were when the CG impressed me though.

Holy crap!!! :lol :lol

I really hope that's a joke post though

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

oh I'm completely serious. I was about to laugh every time a Navi or an Avatar made a serious facial expression because it looked so wooden and awkward. Never felt that way about Worf.

 

[ChryZ]

I've watched it last night, in 3D and all. Story was a bit predictable, but not offensively bad. Very pretty pictures. I enjoyed this movie a lot.

 

[Dead]

oh I'm completely serious. I was about to laugh every time a Navi or an Avatar made a serious facial expression because it looked so wooden and awkward. Never felt that way about Worf.

*boggle*

 

[TAJ]

One of the environment paintings:

I know that's not his work, but it reminds me that Cameron has done matte painting work for film, too.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Just saw this in 3D. Late the party I know.

Good movie, bad graphics.

That's quite possibly the single dumbest thing I've read today.....

The faces weren't very good in this. Probably just because the proportions of the faces in the eye and nose regions is so fucking awful when you have the actor's expressions pasted onto them. It really didn't feel like they got better results than if they just used make-up like star trek or planet of the apes. I mean, the CG was of course impressive in parts like during the action scenes (which there weren't enough of unfortunately).

oh I'm completely serious. I was about to laugh every time a Navi or an Avatar made a serious facial expression because it looked so wooden and awkward. Never felt that way about Worf.

.....no wait, I take that back, this is! Seriously what the hell? :lol

 

[Gui_PT]

oh I'm completely serious. I was about to laugh every time a Navi or an Avatar made a serious facial expression because it looked so wooden and awkward. Never felt that way about Worf.

Are you sure you're in the right thread? This thread isn't about Alvin and the Chipmunks

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

okay if you guys liked the faces, then you liked the faces. what can I say? Personally, I thought the Navi were like Cindy Crawford's mole. I don't like moles, but they make everything else about her look prettier.

 

[Gui_PT]

okay if you guys liked the faces, then you liked the faces. what can I say? Personally, I thought the Navi were like Cindy Crawford's mole. I don't like moles, but they make everything else about her look prettier.

My problem with your posts is that they... well they don't make sense.

The faces in this movie are not cgi. The faces you see are actually from the actors.
So what you said in your posts is that the actual human actors have faces that don't look real

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

The faces of the Navi? How would those eye proportions even be possible? If it's all just make-up, then the acting is just bad I guess.

 

[Gui_PT]

The faces of the Navi? How would those eye proportions even be possible? If it's all just make-up, then the acting is just bad I guess.

:lol
It's not makeup. Their faces were filmed and then tweaked a bit.(obviously)

You can't possibly be saying they can't use their faces

 

[tabsina]

okay if you guys liked the faces, then you liked the faces. what can I say? Personally, I thought the Navi were like Cindy Crawford's mole. I don't like moles, but they make everything else about her look prettier.

i would reply to all of your posts with the gif of neytiri's facial expressions from about 10 pages back, but the photobucket account that was hosting that has expired - anyone save a copy?

 

[Dabanton]

wow i hope people don't rise to such obvious bait. :lol

 

[John Dunbar]

Too lazy to go through 123 pages, but has anyone posted a link to this forum?

http://avatar-forums.com/showthread.php?t=43

These guys give the Digimon forum a run for their money.

Some quotes from the thread:

Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible. I recently read on the Avatar TypePad Blog, that people are becoming depressed because of the movie. People are realizing that the dream can't actually come true. I was trying to start a thread where people gave ideas on how to cope with it, as in reading Avatar stuff, Writing ( about avatar of course), painting, or whatever. Just give me some ideas and I'll try and help them out. Maybe people reading might even get some good ideas that'll help.

After I watched Avatar at the first time, I trully felt depressed as I "wake" up in this world again.
So after few days, I went to cinema and watched it again for the second time to relieve the depression and hopeless feeling.
Now I listen to the soundtrack and share my views in this forum. It really helps.

The first time after I woke up the next day after watching it I "had" to see it again. I have seen it four times now, and soon to be a fifth. I think watching it takes away that depression, because when I am watching it, i dont know how to describe how I feel, but it feels good. I want to just forget about it all sometimes, take down my avatar wallpaper, stop reading about it and what not, but I just cant.
I have to use a quote from the movie sometimes I guess "Sooner or later though, you always have to wake up."
I heard writing a sequel helps, but I just cant compete with what has been laid out.

I dont know if theres any WoW addicts out there, but after seeign Avatar I have lost all desire to play (and trust me thats like being addicted to any drug)
I'm just hoping it will pass over time, but if anybody has any recommendations how to cope I would love to hear them.

do you guys also get the thoughts of sucidal? i dont mean to sound creepy or emo but i kinda felt that humans are pathetic and my life don't mean anything anymore after checking out how good the Na'vi lives are.

 

[Gui_PT]

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

:lol
It's not makeup. Their faces were filmed and then tweaked a bit.(obviously)

You can't possibly be saying they can't use their faces

So you mean that they used motion-capture to put the actor's expressions onto a CG Navi model and afterwards, an artist makes small tweaks to make the proportions fit in right? That's what I assumed but it doesn't look good to me.

 

[Gui_PT]

So you mean that they used motion-capture to put the actor's expressions onto a CG Navi model and afterwards, an artist makes small tweaks to make the proportions fit in right? That's what I assumed but it doesn't look good to me.

Can it be called motion capture? I don't know, it was a new technology

Anyway, I shouldn't let joke posts get to me like this :lol

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Hey the CGI tech is good. I'm not knocking weta's work but the technique they apparently used to transplant the actor's expressions right onto the model just didn't work that well. I think they should have filmed the actors acting those scenes out and had the animators make the expressions themselves.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Hey the CGI tech is good. I'm not knocking weta's work but the technique they apparently used to transplant the actor's expressions right onto the model just didn't work that well. I think they should have filmed the actors acting those scenes out and had the animators make the expressions themselves.

you mean like they've always done it?

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

I can't remember any other examples of CG aliens having motion-captured facial expressions. The problem is probably with the fact that Navi don't have human proportions.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Why are people feeding the very obviously stupid troll?

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Dude, if somebody wanted to troll for a reaction in a 245 page Avatar thread, they would bring up the weakest parts of the movie (story/characterization) and not the fucking CGI.:lol

I'm just mentioning a minor visual gripe I had because it may explain what another person said about not liking the graphics for whatever reason.

 

[universalmind]

The faces of the Navi? How would those eye proportions even be possible? If it's all just make-up, then the acting is just bad I guess.

 

[Solo]

Why are you guys even talking about the already obsolete 3dTVs that are coming out next years? Glasses are so old tech when there's these beauties.

Yup. 3DTVs arent something Im going to be an earlier adopter on. Im quite happy with my Panny plasma right now, and have no intentions of going 3D until a) autostereoscopic sets are the norm (there is no fucking way Im wearing glasses watching TV; wearing them for 2 hours in a theatre is one thing, but wearing them for something you'll spend thousands of hours using is another thing altogether) and b) autostereoscopic sets hit the sub $3000 range.

In other words, probably 5-6 years.

 

[cvxfreak]

Just reserved tickets for the Friday 8PM showing in the same theater the official Japan Debut was held in. Three screens showing the 3D version with another dedicated to a few showings of the 2D version. James Cameron went to this same theater (Virgin Toho Cinema in Roppongi, Tokyo). So did all The Dark Knight people in 2008 and so forth.

1/3rd of the seats were already pre-booked! And my student discount ticket was ¥1800 each which is about $20.

This will be my fourth viewing and I'm downgrading from the IMAX viewing (I went 2D -> 3D -> IMAX 3D).

 

[nib95]

 

[cvxfreak]

http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0021623

Avatar exceeds ¥3 Billion ($32 Million) in Japan in its first 11 days (Dec 23 - Jan 2).

Titanic grossed around $200 Million in Japan and was that movie's second highest country after the U.S.