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I was planning on holding out for the special edition, but I caved in and got this version to hold me over. I need a good Blu-Ray to show off my new TV, anyway.
 
Aaron said:
If it's not R-rated, he just shouldn't bother. The violence in the manga is an inherent part of the characters. PG13 would be like making a WWII with puppies and rainbows instead of Nazis and bullets.
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Considering on how big budgets Cameron uses by now you can pretty much forget an R-rating. No studio would finance a 300 Mill. Dollar R-rated film. Not even for James Cameron.
 
red shoe paul said:
Watched it last night..

Visuals and editing was done really well, but just about everything else was pretty bad. Damn sheeple hyping this up for no reason was beyond true from the start.
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shoulda seen it in 3d.

sheeple?
:lol
 
TheExorzist said:
Considering on how big budgets Cameron uses by now you can pretty much forget an R-rating. No studio would finance a 300 Mill. Dollar R-rated film. Not even for James Cameron.
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But, you have to admit... if they did... he would be the one.
 
brandonh83 said:
But, you have to admit... if they did... he would be the one.
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Probably, yes. However it doesn't change that he will never do it. It's sad, but I understand why big budget R-rated action films aren't made any more. It became way to expensive - without even saying that the risk is way to high. Good ol' 80s and 90s. Miss them... :(
 
TheExorzist said:
Considering on how big budgets Cameron uses by now you can pretty much forget an R-rating. No studio would finance a 300 Mill. Dollar R-rated film. Not even for James Cameron.
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Then there's no way he can do Battle Angel. It will have no hope of approaching the source material. He should produce instead, and give it to Neill Blomkamp to direct.
 
Aaron said:
Then there's no way he can do Battle Angel. It will have no hope of approaching the source material. He should produce instead, and give it to Neill Blomkamp to direct.
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Why does he have to be that faithful to the original? To satisfy the handful of geeks who know it? I don't think so.

I'm not familiar with the Anime but due to the announcement I've read the story summary on wiki and I think it sure is doable without gore.
 
TheExorzist said:
Why does he have to be that faithful to the original? To satisfy the handful of geeks who know it? I don't think so.

I'm not familiar with the Anime but due to the announcement I've read the story summary on wiki and I think it sure is doable without gore.
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Why not just come up with an original property if you're unwilling to treat the source material in the fashion that it deserves? I can't understand that mentality. Like I said, the level of violence in the Battle Angel manga is an intrinsic part of the world and the way the characters develop. It has to be raw to the level an R rating would require or it's just a bit of fluff. It would be like making a PG rated moving out of Saving Private Ryan. Or maybe they should turn Event Horizon into a kid's movie.

I'm not a fan of excessive gore. I find most slasher flicks boring, but this is one property that needs its blood. Otherwise, it'll just be bland and sanitized.
 
Aaron said:
Why not just come up with an original property if you're unwilling to treat the source material in the fashion that it deserves? I can't understand that mentality. Like I said, the level of violence in the Battle Angel manga is an intrinsic part of the world and the way the characters develop. It has to be raw to the level an R rating would require or it's just a bit of fluff. It would be like making a PG rated moving out of Saving Private Ryan. Or maybe they should turn Event Horizon into a kid's movie.

I'm not a fan of excessive gore. I find most slasher flicks boring, but this is one property that needs its blood. Otherwise, it'll just be bland and sanitized.
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Mangas/Anime are a very special topic in this regard if you ask me. Because if you want to make a live action movie you can't do it exactly as it is in the original. We've seen what turns out when they do this in the Dragonball movie. There is way to many stuff that may work in the manga/anime but sure does not in a live action movie. So you really have to go a different way here.

Why not leave it and do something else? Well, I also think that the basic story is very interesting and deserves to be told on big screen.
 
You guys are nuts, if James Cameron wants to make an R rated Battle Angel film, James Cameron will make an R rated Battle Angel film. The only thing I can see skewing that rating decision is his own monetry greed. Basically, since he takes a significant backend amount, whether he wants it to be Avatar-sized or a heckuva lot smaller will weigh his judgement.

That said, if Watchmen can be made for 130m+ and make profit, you can bet your ass that Cameron, with the promise of an Avatar sequel afterward helmed by him, will be the man to receive the key to FOX's caste iron underpants.

So ultimately Battle Angel will only be PG13 if Cameron has become accustomed to using the large hadron collider to microwave his burritos just right every lunch break.
 
TheExorzist said:
Considering on how big budgets Cameron uses by now you can pretty much forget an R-rating. No studio would finance a 300 Mill. Dollar R-rated film. Not even for James Cameron.
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Well, the combined total of the Matrix sequels was $300 million, and that was 2003. Today that would be well over $200 each. It is unlikely someone would finance such a huge budget R rated film, but when your last two films each grossed over $1.5 billion globally, that changes things.
 
brandonh83 said:
The six bonus tracks are terrible. They're like synth versions. I'm not sure whose idea it was to release an "extended" soundtrack which is actually just the same as the regular version but with a small selection of unreleased tracks in Playstation 1 era quality but they shouldn't be allowed to make any kind of decisions ever again, for anyone else or themselves.
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Man this shit is inexplicable, they do sound like ass. I don't get it really. There's a "complete score" floating around the intarwebs, and the music is all properly recorded.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Well, the combined total of the Matrix sequels was $300 million, and that was 2003. Today that would be well over $200 each. It is unlikely someone would finance such a huge budget R rated film, but when your last two films each grossed over $1.5 billion globally, that changes things.
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Matrix was r-rated? Didn't know that. Well, guess our ratings in Germany/Austria are way more different then yours in this case. I thought the r-rated movies are only the sort of "harder" ones like T2 or something.
 
Finally, someone screencapped this

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Now if only someone could screencap Jake with the "datass" expression after he gets off the Helicopter :lol
 
Dead said:
Finally, someone screencapped this

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Now if only someone could screencap Jake with the "datass" expression after he gets off the Helicopter :lol[/QUOTE]
Would.

[spoiler]seriously[/spoiler]
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TheExorzist said:
Matrix was r-rated? Didn't know that. Well, guess our ratings in Germany/Austria are way more different then yours in this case. I thought the r-rated movies are only the sort of "harder" ones like T2 or something.
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Matrix and its sequels were very tame R's. Avatar was a very hard PG-13...I remember when PG-13 meant that you could only use the word "shit" once. Avatar used it a lot.

And Battle Angel will likely be PG-13...there is an old quote from Cameron where he says that it would be PG-13, and that there would be lots of blood in the movie, but it is all blue.

As long as we see brains, then it's all good. Yukito Kishiro had a full-on brain fetish judging by all the brains in the manga.

And the violence in the manga is highly stylized and often exaggerated...and therefore was not "realistic" or disturbing. I think Cameron will be able to get away with a lot more than you expect with a PG-13.
 
Updated: 'Dark Knight' Blu-ray sales stay ahead of 'Avatar'
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Turns out "Avatar" hasn't quite beat "The Dark Knight" yet.

After 20th Century Fox bragged on Sunday that "Avatar" had broken the all-time Blu-ray sales record in just four days with 2.7 million units, Warner Bros. countered on Monday that "The Dark Knight" has in fact sold 2.9 million high-definition Blu-ray discs in the U.S. and Canada since it launched in December 2008.

The last sales figure Warner provided for "The Dark Knight" on Blu-ray had been 2.5 million.

But while "Avatar" hasn't quite taken the crown yet, it's certain to in the coming months, given that it has sold almost as much in four days as "The Dark Knight" has in 16 months.
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Warner Brother's couldn't let it go, even though it'll be surpassed by tomorrow :lol
 
Medalion said:
The blu-ray hasn't even been out for a week yet
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I know, that's why it's so hilarious that WB would bother to correct it when the sales for the week are going to show it comfortably ahead of TDK. Hell, by the time they released the correction it had probably already achieved that feat.
 
Got the Blu-Ray today. As others have mentioned, the image quality is absolutely stunning. I sat there and watched the menu screen trailer on loop for about 10 minutes. :lol
 
They shouldn't even have bothered to put out that update, it changes practically nothing :lol

I've seen a lot people mention that Avatar is for Blu-Ray what Matrix was for DVD

If that is indeed the case (and it looks like it is), then Avatars home video success is a success for pretty much every studio and blu-ray in general.
 
Dead said:
They shouldn't even have bothered to put out that update, it changes practically nothing :lol

I've seen a lot people mention that Avatar is for Blu-Ray what Matrix was for DVD

If that is indeed the case (and it looks like it is), then Avatars home video success is a success for pretty much every studio and blu-ray in general.
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Pretty much... it is a landmark film. No question.
 
Won't be watching it till tomorrow night unfortunately (maybe even Thursday night). Stupid friends and their birthdays *shuts his hermit cave curtain*.
 
Scullibundo said:
Yeah picked it up from JB today. $25 with the Survival Guide.
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Wait, isn't this out on Thursday?? I was going to preorder today but had a mess at NSW Dept of Births Deaths & Marriages to sort out. Fuckers.

Also how did you get it for $25? Price match with Big W?
 
Am I the only one that is still perplexed as to how Cameron managed to literally do the near impossible?

Dethroning Titanic. Over 2.6 BILLION. Insane 3D, with even crazier visuals AND Oscar nominations?
Just..damn.
 
Veidt said:
Am I the only one that is still perplexed as to how Cameron managed to literally do the near impossible?

Dethroning Titanic. Over 2.6 BILLION. Insane 3D, with even crazier visuals AND Oscar nominations?
Just..damn.
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You sure are not the only one. I kind of still can't believe it. Only one year ago I thought that the record Titanic pulled will remain forever. I mean, even Lord of the Ring 3 didn't make it near that success.
 
TheExorzist said:
You sure are not the only one. I kind of still can't believe it. Only one year ago I thought that the record Titanic pulled will remain forever. I mean, even Lord of the Ring 3 didn't make it near that success.
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3D ticket premium, LOL.

(Remember when people were all "bu bu but 3D means less peole actually watched it!"?)
 
hirokazu said:
3D ticket premium, LOL.

(Remember when people were all "bu bu but 3D means less peole actually watched it!"?)
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Yeah, true. But come on, it made 1 Billion $ more than Titanic.... One BILLION! And as we've seen the 3D ticket premium can't be the only reason for this success as Alice made like 2 Billion less than Avatar.
 
As I was watching AVATAR the other night I realized that the big feat of the film is that it creates such a lush 'natural' world with nothing but artificiality. Quite an accomplishment, right on par with the performance capture.
 
The fact that every corner of the world lives and breathes...insects flying around, countless types of weird plants in every corner (all with fully thought-out biologies by the way), and explanations behind ever single thing...it's just a monumental accomplishment.
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...kies-virgin-blue/story-e6frg8zx-1225859648884

VIRGIN Blue will be taking James Cameron's blockbuster Avatar to the skies today as part of the massive advertising blitz accompanying the film's release on DVD and Blu-ray.
A cross-promotional deal between 20th Century Fox and the airline will see an Avatar logo plastered across a Boeing 737, as well as an in-flight advertising campaign on the airline's planes and boarding passes, and promotions in airports and lounges. The deal will also see $50 Virgin Blue Holidays vouchers inside the packaging of each movie.

The jet will make its debut today when it flies from Brisbane to Sydney with crew members and passengers made up as Na'vi, the blue creatures at the centre of the sc-fi movie, as part of the official launch of the home entertainment formats.

The blitz by Fox is its biggest to date and also includes a tie-in with the Nine Network and outfitting the Bulldogs rugby league team with a one-off jersey.

Avatar is the biggest-grossing film of all time, with worldwide receipts of $US2.5 billion ($2.72bn).

The release of the home discs in the US last week saw 4 million copies sold on DVD, and a further 2.7 million sold on Blu-ray in the first four days.

Fox is a unit of News Corporation, publisher of The Australian.
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http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/james_cameron_convinces_nasa_t.html
James Cameron Convinces NASA to Shoot Footage for Him
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Well, maybe not for him. The Pasadena Star News is reporting that after a one-on-one meeting, James Cameron, a longtime Mars obsessive, has successfully lobbied NASA into tricking out the latest Mars rover, Curiosity, with a 3-D camera that can film ten frames per second. A non–3-D camera, for the rover's mast, was ready to go, and it's unclear whether a 3-D camera will be ready in time for the 2011 launch. Cameron claims just to be interested in NASA getting awesome footage of Mars for the good of humanity, but he probably thinks the James Cameron documentary about Mars would benefit mankind
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Can't say I see the use of 3D at 10fps, but whatever.
 
The jet will make its debut today when it flies from Brisbane to Sydney with crew members and passengers made up as Na'vi, the blue creatures at the centre of the sc-fi movie
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Poor bastards.
 
Scullibundo said:
Can't say I see the use of 3D at 10fps, but whatever.
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Just because it's recorded at 10Hz, doesn't mean it has to be played back at that rate. And of course, for science, even a single frame is useful for determining the precise range, and thus size, of objects near the rover.

Also, the Rover camera has "always" been 3D. The only thing in doubt is whether it'll have the capability to zoom as well. A 2D camera has never even been considered.
 
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