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RTTP: Live Free or Die Hard (2007) is a damn fine action movie.

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AkuMifune

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No, that movie was bad. Old John Mcclain wrestles an F-16 to the ground. Get the fuck out of here.

The car into the helicopter was cool, the rest is pretty shit.

Just that the last one was so terrible it makes this one seem less bad.

I mean, Kevin Smith people.
 
The only moment in the film when McClane felt like McClane was when he was mouthing off to himself in the tunnel as he made his way to the car to launch at the chopper. He was finally back, and then it was undone by him doing something as ridiculous as launching a car at a chopper.
 
I wasn't too impressed when i saw it, but the latest one makes it look pretty good in comparison. McClane throwing cars at everything and the hacking is still less ridiculous than what happens in that movie.

Anecdote about "A Good Day to Die Hard":
A friends girlfriend absolutely wanted to see it, and for some reason me and a few others came along. After the movie was over she was literally ecstastic and praising it as a true work of art. That's when i realized she's a nutcase. They broke up sometime after. He wasn't sad about it and neither was anyone else.
 
I enjoyed it, and the last one. Just turned my brain off and settled in for some Bruce Willis badassdom.

Neither one is a great movie, but they're fun.

Plus, yes, Mary Elizabeth Winstead is hot.
 

JdFoX187

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It didn't deserve the hate that it got. And A Good Day to Die Hard didn't get enough hate.

Still pissed Fox won't put out the unrated cut on blu ray.
 

J Jizzle

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First time I saw Maggie Q was in this film. What a fittie! The film was alright but not even close to the original die hard in my action film tier list.
 
It was a serviceable action movie, nothing really offensive but it wasn't groundbreaking either. I enjoyed it for what it was unlike that piece of dogshit fifth movie.

It doesn't deserve the Die Hard name though.
 
My expectations were so low for the last one that that's likely why I enjoyed it more than most. I expected it to be shit, but it wasn't as bad as I thought.
 
My rating, but yeah it's a farly good action movie and at least a decent Die Hard

1>3>>>4>>>>>>>>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5

yep yep. Jeez, that 5th one was bad.
 

elyetis

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My rating, but yeah it's a farly good action movie and at least a decent Die Hard

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Seems spot on with what I think too. Thought I would probably tweak it to a 1 = 3.
 

ElTopo

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As a PG-13 action flick it's okay, merely passable. As a sequel to a great old school action franchise it's shit. But what's the point of watching a PG-13 action flick? When you watch an action film you want to see squibs and foul language and politically incorrect shit and stunts that defy physics. It's like watching a blood-less Slasher or zombie film or a porno with the porn cut out.
 

Zodzilla

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As a PG-13 action flick it's okay, merely passable. As a sequel to a great old school action franchise it's shit. But what's the point of watching a PG-13 action flick? When you watch an action film you want to see squibs and foul language and politically incorrect shit and stunts that defy physics. It's like watching a blood-less Slasher or zombie film or a porno with the porn cut out.

I never understood why people were always so upset with this being PG-13. I mean, making the thing R doesn't guarantee that it would've been a better film. Look at the fifth one if you want more proof as to why the rating itself doesn't matter. That film was an R rated film and it was also a steaming pile of horseshit.

Hell, if the first Die Hard were made today, I wouldn't be surprised if it were rated PG-13 as its level of violence is relatively lame against something like say, the Dark Knight.
 

ElTopo

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I never understood why people were always so upset with this being PG-13. I mean, making the thing R doesn't guarantee that it would've been a better film. Look at the fifth one if you want more proof as to why the rating itself doesn't matter. That film was an R rated film and it was also a steaming pile of horseshit.

Hell, if the first Die Hard were made today, I wouldn't be surprised if it were rated PG-13 as its level of violence is relatively lame against something like say, the Dark Knight.

I already explained my point but I guess you didn't read. When you watch an action movie you want to see squibs, violence, macho politically incorrect bullshit. Imagine if Schwarzeneggar's Commando was PG-13 or the original Robocop?

An R doesn't make a movie better, but at the same time you know that it wasn't cut down for corporate bullshit and is true to the intent of the movie.

It just makes no sense why anyone would defend a PG-13 action movie.
 

Sephzilla

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I already explained my point but I guess you didn't read. When you watch an action movie you want to see squibs, violence, macho politically incorrect bullshit. Imagine if Schwarzeneggar's Commando was PG-13 or the original Robocop?

An R doesn't make a movie better, but at the same time you know that it wasn't cut down for corporate bullshit and is true to the intent of the movie.

It just makes no sense why anyone would defend a PG-13 action movie.

To be fair I think you can get away with a lot more in a PG-13 movie now than you could say, 20 years ago
 
he gets up to the "motherf-" before the gunshot goes off. in the unrated version doesn't he just straight up say it?

Yeah he outright says it in the unrated version, which is the only way to watch the movie.

Honestly I like this movie a lot more than I thought I would. Probably have rewatched it the most after the original. 1>4>3>2. So glad they never made a fifth movie and ended on a decent note.
 

jello44

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It was a pretty decent action film that was Die Hard in name only. It is definitely the weakest of the first four. I still have not brought myself to see the last one.


And I feel I am the weirdo that actually likes Die Hard 2.

No, I liked 2 too. I watched all three of them at least twice in the past week around Christmas time haha. For me, it's 3>1>2. They're still all great.

4 I never cared for too much and I haven't seen 5.
 

Sephzilla

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You still can't get away with Robocop or Commando. Fuck anyone who says that Dredd or Rambo 4 would have been fine as a PG-13.

I think Dredd could have worked as PG-13 but it wouldn't have been as fun. Rambo 4 would be a completely different movie without it. I actually forgot Commando was rated R. I know it's got a lot of explosions and people dying but I don't remember too many especially 'bloody' moments outside of that Green Beret and the table and that one guy getting his arm chopped off.
 

ElTopo

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I hate to be "that" guy but you are incredibly wrong if you think Dredd or Commando would work as a PG-13. So indescribably wrong that I question if you're trolling or simply haven't seen the films in question.

PG-13 would mean no nudity, no squibs, fuck is said at most 3 times, no neck snaps, no gruesome deaths, and probably no drug paraphernalia. And with all that removed, how would something like Commando or Dredd be considered equal to the R version?

I mean, to say that Dredd or Commando would be fine as a PG-13 makes me question what planet you're from.
 

Sephzilla

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I hate to be "that" guy but you are incredibly wrong if you think Dredd or Commando would work as a PG-13. So indescribably wrong that I question if you're trolling or simply haven't seen the films in question.

PG-13 would mean no nudity, no squibs, fuck is said at most 3 times, no neck snaps, no gruesome deaths, and probably no drug paraphernalia. And with all that removed, how would something like Commando or Dredd be considered equal to the R version?

I mean, to say that Dredd or Commando would be fine as a PG-13 makes me question what planet you're from.

Where in my quote did I say it would be equal?

Worked =/= equal.
 

Zodzilla

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You still can't get away with Robocop or Commando. Fuck anyone who says that Dredd or Rambo 4 would have been fine as a PG-13.

Like I said in my post, I think the first Die Hard would probably now be classified with a PG-13 rating.

Die Hard as a series when it was R rated was never as violent as Commando or Robocop were.
 

Travo

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I enjoyed it very much though I wished McClane was less Superman and more average Joe.

Die Hard 5 sucks!!
 

Windu

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yeah i liked it. have yet to see the 5th one though, and from i hear, i am not missing anything.
 

Dai101

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I actually forgot Commando was rated R. I know it's got a lot of explosions and people dying but I don't remember too many especially 'bloody' moments outside of that Green Beret and the table and that one guy getting his arm chopped off.

I'm sure it was for that topless girl and nothing else. You know, in america guts and blood? Fine, a nipple slip? Hell breaks loose.
 
My rating, but yeah it's a farly good action movie and at least a decent Die Hard

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Accurate.
 
It was not a Die Hard movie, just a bunch of mish-mash stunts tied together in a flimsy storyline that attached John McClane to it. Did not enjoy it, a lot of it was cgi enhanced rubbish. You could turn almost any film Bruce has done into a Die Hard movie and it would have been a lot better than LFODH (or Die Hard 4.0 as it's known in Australia) and a good day to die hard.

I would rate the series in the order that they came out, I have an appreciation for Die Harder (would have put it last 10 years ago). With a vengeance was my favorite in the series for a long time (late 90's), when I got the special editions of 1 & 2 in the early 2000's my opinion changed.
 
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