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RTTP: Memento - Now, Where Was I?

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Just re-watched Memento for the third time and WOW, I think I got everything now. After watching it for the first time a while back, I knew this was one of the best movies I’ve seen. It’s currently on Netflix so if you haven’t seen it and are looking to watch a great movie that makes you think, I highly recommend it as would many others.


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On my recent re-watch I wanted to piece together the characters and understand their motives. I feel like after watching the movie, I needed to re-watch it backwards just to see who these characters really are. Just the amazing way in showing the scenes in reverse order not only lets the audience see Leonard’s perspective, but drastically changes your perception of the characters as the movie progresses. So grab a pen and Polaroid, and let’s have a character discussion!

Natalie:
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Before I thought Natalie was just someone who took advantage of Leonard, and used him to fend off Dodd. But then as the movie reveals, Leonard shows up at her bar in her boyfriend’s suit! Obviously she knows something bad has happened and knows somehow Leonard is involved. That’s why it makes it easy for her to take advantage of Leonard, but she also has sympathy for him knowing he lost his wife. Natalie ultimately shows kindness and helps Leonard find the finale piece to his puzzle by running the license plates. So what are your thoughts on Natalie? As the movie is played out, the last scenes are of her lambasting Leonard calling him a freak, using him to get Dodd off her back and spitting in his drink. The audience’s initial impression of Natalie might be unfavorable, but as you piece together the timeline, you can see she truly empathized with Leonard’s situation.

Teddy:
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Teddy, as he is often referred as in the movie, was also someone I wasn’t quite sure of during my initial viewings, or I may have just overlooked key plot points. Just in case you didn’t catch it, Teddy is actually a police officer that was assigned to Leonard’s murder case. He explains that he was the only one who believed Leonard and that there was a second man that tried to murder Leonard’s wife. Teddy befriends Leonard and looks out for him, but he also uses him to commit Teddy’s shady drug dealings. With Leonard’s condition, Teddy brings Leonard along whenever he has a drug dealer to dispose of with the unfortunate name of John G. Leonard is under the impression that he is seeking vengeance for the murder of his wife, then the process rinses and repeats. Ironically Teddy’s real name is John Gambell which makes him a perfect target for Leonard.

Ultimately do you sympathize with Teddy? I mean he is a scumbag for having Leonard kill a bunch of drug dealers, but to his point isn’t it for Leonard’s benefit? He knows who Leonard has become. Teddy sees it as a way to give Leonard purpose in life, to see him happy and have that smile as he did when they got the true John G. From Teddy’s point, they get rid of a few criminals from the streets, and make a few bucks while they’re at it. He cares for Leonard as he anxiously tries to get him to get out of town and away from the cops. Leonard has no memory, Teddy could very well let him get caught and rot in prison, and Leonard would have no way of indicting Teddy. Teddy looks out for Leonard, hears his story about Sammy Jenkins over and over again, and ultimately gets a bullet in the head for his friendship.

Leonard:
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Leonard:
Again how the movie is played out, it makes you sympathize with Leonard then at the “end”, turns your perception upside down. Throughout the movie, Leonard is depicted as man who is obsessed in finding his wife’s killer. Unfortunately, Leonard also has a memory condition where he often can’t remember what happened 10 minutes ago. The only thing he can remember is his wife, how beautiful she was and how much he loved her. The tragedy is Leonard won’t remember what happened 10 minutes ago, but he will always remember knowing that he lost his wife and desperately tries to forget her. There’s a great scene with Leonard and Natalie lying in bed, and Leonard mournfully explains how he’ll always know his wife in never coming back, waking up every day and feeling the coldness on her side of the bed. He mentions, how can he ever overcome the loss of his wife with no perception of time?

But as Teddy points out, that was what Leonard used to be, not what he has become. The plot reveals that Leonard’s wife actually did survive the attempted murder, but couldn’t cope with Leonard’s memory condition. The story of Sammy Jenkins that Leonard tells of is actually the tale of his own life. Leonard’s wife was the one with Diabetes and died from excess insulin. Because of her death, Leonard had to be moved to a psychiatric ward. There’s a quick flash when Leonard tells of Sammy being in the psychiatric ward that shows Leonard sitting in place of Sammy.

Fast-forward to the events of the movie, Leonard now lives his life going from John G to John G, finding purpose in murdering his wife’s “killer”. As Leonard mentions, Sammy couldn’t function with his condition because he had no purpose in life. Not Leonard however as he continually attempts to solve an unsolvable puzzle. Does that justify his actions? Leonard is not a killer, that’s what makes him so good at it, but by having Teddy’s license plate tattooed to his leg and knowing what that would entail, does that not make him a killer? Is it by having tattooed all the “facts”, Teddy is his final John G signifying he no longer want to live this life of a murderer anymore? Perhaps, or maybe as he says it’s just simply his need for purpose, his need for happiness, his need to know that his actions have meaning.

Such a great movie, I love how by showing the scenes in reverse order it makes the viewer put the pieces together and thereby letting them make their own conclusions. I’m sooo ready for Dunkirk and more Nolan goodness!!
 
The old two disc special edition DVD had a hidden feature with the film in chronological order. Was quite a different beast when viewed that way.
 

inm8num2

Member
An absolute masterpiece and one of the best films of the previous decade. I really should rewatch Memento as it's been quite a few years since the last viewing, and the movie seemed to always get better each time I watched it.

The final monologue has always stuck with me.

"I have to believe in a world outside my own mind. I have to believe that my actions still have meaning, even if I can't remember them. I have to believe that when my eyes are closed, the world's still there. Do I believe the world's still there? Is it still out there...? Yeah. We all need mirrors to remind ourselves who we are. I'm no different."

And yes, the two-disc special edition DVD is quite clever. Just figuring out the menus and looking for the hidden content or the chronological version of the film (which I just skipped through but didn't watch completely) was a trip.
 
The best was you unlocked it by putting a bunch of images of an event in chronological order.

That disc is brilliant

The menu system was fun the first time, but after a few watches I just want to get to the damn movie.

The packaging was brilliant though.

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How the whole thing opened up like his psychiatric file, including some loose sheets detailing his injuries. The post it note on the inside of the package was my favorite touch.

The pics aint selling how awesome it is. One of those you have to see it to appreciate it packages.
 

mnannola

Member
One of the greatest movies of all time, and one of the best examples of what can be done with the medium. The special edition DVD where you could play everything in chronological order was also amazing. One of the only movies where as soon as I finished watching for the first time, I immediately started it over to watch it again.
 

Xe4

Banned
Favorite Nolan film as well, and one of my favorite films, period. I saw it recently as well, on Netflix, probably like you.
 
Probably just nostalgia but I really enjoyed movies that came out around the time like Momento. I was old enough to see it when it came out.


One of my top 10.
 

jtb

Banned
I like it less the more I think about it.

On the other hand, I find the Prestige to be a much more powerful film over time, in large part because it's clearly so much more personal to Nolan. (It's literally a film about filmmaking, after all. Makes sense that Nolan has a much stronger and more intimate relationship with it.)
 
I still haven't seen the movie (just waiting for the right time) but someone online finally convinced me to read the short story last year and it absolutely blew me away. Maybe this is a good opportunity to finally sit down and watch it.
 
The menu system was fun the first time, but after a few watches I just want to get to the damn movie.

The packaging was brilliant though.

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How the whole thing opened up like his psychiatric file, including some loose sheets detailing his injuries. The post it note on the inside of the package was my favorite touch.

The pics aint selling how awesome it is. One of those you have to see it to appreciate it packages.

One of the only cases I kept when I switched my DVDs into Binders
 

Noctix

Member
I still haven't seen the movie (just waiting for the right time) but someone online finally convinced me to read the short story last year and it absolutely blew me away. Maybe this is a good opportunity to finally sit down and watch it.

Which short story are you talking about?
 
Still my favorite Nolan film, by a mile, and I've really enjoyed his career since.

Its clever, its subtle about pushing its themes, its poignant without ever even coming close to being schmaltzy, and its brilliant as a thriller. The only thing bad about it is that Carrie Ann-Moss never got a film role near as good ever since. She's phenomenal in this.
 

sankt-Antonio

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Watched it years ago and last week, so fairly recently. I liked it booth times but never felt like the masterpiece lots of people want it to be.

Personally, the constant narration of the b/w feels like a lame tool to tell a story. And thinking about how he and Natalie even meet the first time, how convinient it is ,for nat to want the guy dead who killed her bf and the main guy, that the cop is called John G.

That felt really cheap in a film which premise is cleverness. All imo of course.
 
Watched it years ago and last week, so fairly recently. I liked it booth times but never felt like the masterpiece lots of people want it to be.

Personally, the constant narration of the b/w feels like a lame tool to tell a story. And thinking about how he and Natalie even meet the first time, how convinient it is ,for nat to want the guy dead who killed her bf and the main guy, that the cop is called John G.

That felt really cheap in a film which premise is cleverness. All imo of course.

Yeah the John G part is clearly the most ridiculous element in it.
 

SomTervo

Member
I like it less the more I think about it.

On the other hand, I find the Prestige to be a much more powerful film over time, in large part because it's clearly so much more personal to Nolan. (It's literally a film about filmmaking, after all. Makes sense that Nolan has a much stronger and more intimate relationship with it.)

Almost all of Nolan's films are films about filmmaking.

Inception is my favourite when you frame it like that (even though I think it's a mess in various ways).
 
I recently did a re-watch of it on Netflix being probably 10 years since I first seen it. It holds up. Probably in my top 5 all-time. The structure, the characters, the acting, it was all very well done.

One of the points I haven't seen mentioned yet here that I noticed more this time around and loved was how easy it is to take advantage of someone in that state. Many people do it throughout the movie, even the motel clerk admitted to it. Makes being a paranoid amnesiac that much worse when no one is afraid to use you.

It's one of my most recommended movies. Whenever the topic is breached I always make a point to suggest it. It becomes better upon repeat viewings, but will plateau given it's structure. I wouldn't watch it more than once every few years.

Nolan is a beast, and I can't wait to see Dunkirk.
 
Going to repost my post from the other recent Memento thread

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While the score is for the most part subdued, it's still so fucking good. Half of the impact of the last few minutes is due to the music. Adore this film.

I have to believe in a world outside my own mind. I have to believe that my actions still have meaning, even if I can't remember them. I have to believe that when my eyes are closed, the world's still there. Do I believe the world's still there? Is it still out there?... Yeah. We all need mirrors to remind ourselves who we are. I'm no different.
 
One of the points I haven't seen mentioned yet here that I noticed more this time around and loved was how easy it is to take advantage of someone in that state. Many people do it throughout the movie, even the motel clerk admitted to it. Makes being a paranoid amnesiac that much worse when no one is afraid to use you.

That's a good point, though I suppose if you don't ever recall a time when someone took advantage of your situation, you'll never have too great of a fear. Unless you have "Trust no one" tattooed on you, then at that point I'd probably just lock the door and stay in my room all day.

Going to repost my post from the other recent Memento thread

Absolutely! I love how the music kicks in right when Leonard writes down Teddy's license plate and makes the conscious decision to continue the life path that he's on.
 
One of the only cases I kept when I switched my DVDs into Binders

I ripped all of my DVDs to m4v files the other year, and made sure to rip the chronological order version of the film off of this. So can queue up whichever version I feel like watching.
Still haven't gotten the blu ray of the film though.
 

JCHandsom

Member
Love this movie, but I find it less impressive now that I understand all the little mysteries and questions. Same thing happened with Inception. Both are still great movies, but I find myself missing that initial high I had when I was still figuring everything out.
 
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