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RTTP Twin Peaks

J-Roderton

J-Roderton

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Let’s keep it a little spoiler free if that’s cool.

I watched all the way up to maybe S2 episode 10 a couple of years ago and I got the itch for rewatching this show.

Just finished up the first season. Awesome, weird stuff. I understand the second season drags little bit, but I’m hoping it all pays off.

Who else watched this weird-ass show? Also is S3 any good?

 
Nymphae

Nymphae

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The Return was brilliant, just rewatched it last month. 18 hours of pure Lynch directed awesomeness with no network oversight, I dare say it was even better than the original run. Season 2 is basically trash but the stuff Lynch did for it was great.
 
J-Roderton

J-Roderton

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Nymphae said:
The Return was brilliant, just rewatched it last month. 18 hours of pure Lynch directed awesomeness with no network oversight, I dare say it was even better than the original run. Season 2 is basically trash but the stuff Lynch did for it was great.
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Is it true he wasn’t too involved with the second season?
 
kretos

kretos

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I remember watching the 1st season and it was great, 2nd season was really boring i couldn't even finish it and stopped watching it half way
 
Dacon

Dacon

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I LOVE TWIN PEAKS.

I've watched this show so many times, and every time I do I notice something new.

Season 4 is the dream, I know it won't happen though.
 
Brian Fellows

Brian Fellows

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I liked it when it started but I lost interest by the end of season 1. The murder mystery loses all its momentum as you learn Laura Palmer was kind of a POS.
 
#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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i love this show so much. my introduction was the pilot episode on VHS way back in the day.

season 2 was great but seriously falls off as soon as it starts. then halfway through it falls off again. but by that time you are so addicted to watching you want to see what happens next. it gets silly like a soap opera. then Lynch comes back for the finale and blows everyone's mind. all the bullshit swept away. one of the most stunning and enigmatic series finales ever.

season 3 was a dream come true. i know a lot of people were upset at it but to me it was a dream come true. just the fact that all those old actors and artists got to work together again makes it worth it. we basically got an 18 hour sequel to FWWM.

i'd become a big David Lynch fan since then discovering the show, watched most of his other movies, plus his short films. season 3 feels like the culmination of his career. like you put Eraserhead and Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive and every other thing he has been done and made a great salad out of it. a salad that is glowing and talks to you.

episode 3 is my fave from season 3. when the wall socket started smoking and i realized what was happening i started cheering at the screen. very few creators still surprise me but David Lynch is one of the few.
 
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#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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Nymphae said:
Make sure to watch the movie as well before you get into the third season.
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he released a bunch of cut content from FWWM called The Missing Pieces shortly before season 3. a lot of it is highly relevant to what goes on. really recommend watching that as well.






the most amazing trick he played in season 3 was showing us that David Bowie's character from 25 years ago was actually on to something. when i saw that replay of Philip Jeffrey pointing and saying "Who do you think that is?" i was like, holy shit, David Bowie knew it was dopplecoop back in the 90s???
 
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Corpsepyre

Corpsepyre

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OP, just make sure you watch it fully this time around. After you're done with S2, you need to watch the movie Fire Walk With Me, and THEN start with The Return (S3).

Enjoy. It's going to be a ride you won't soon forget.

P.S: S3 has my favourite TP episode of all time. You'll know which when you're about half-way done.

EDIT: Don't browse this thread a whole lot as some things might be spoiled for you!
 
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PrimetimeKnight

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This chart here pretty much summarizes seasons 1 & 2 pretty well. Season 3 is amazing, I believe, but it is very Lynchian and some people didn't care for it. I believe Kyle MacLachlan called it "Twin Peaks on acid" which is a pretty good analogy. Season 3 may not have the impact on you as it did for others though because of the 25 year gap between seasons for some people.

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#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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the finale is so good precisely because the previous episodes are on some Scooby Doo shit

like that ridiculous stuff they do with Nadine, when Lynch comes in, and the reality hits everyone, just masterful
 
Airola

Airola

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Nymphae said:
Yeah he had very little to do with it, and he's on record as hating it. I think he only directed the first and last episodes, the finale was pretty good.
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He directed four episodes of Season 2. The first, the second, the seventh, and the last.

On the first season he directed two episodes: the pilot and episode 3 (or 2 depending on how you count). Soon after filming episode 3 (or 2) he went on to film Wild at Heart.

He was very much around during the first 1/3 or half of the second season but, while still being around there in the office etc, he did distance himself from the production during the second half of season 2. He still chimed in to give notes and ideas though (the desk knob thing was his idea and at one point near the end he gave a note that Windom Earle should wear black all the time).

There is this rumor that Lynch left to make Wild at Heart during season 2 and that would be part of the reason why there were problems with that season, but the timeline doesn't add up. Wild at Heart was completed before season 2 started.

Reflections: An Oral History of Twin Peaks is a good book to read. In that book Al Strobel recalls how they were filming the scene where he is found at the motel (episode 4 - or 5 depending on if you count the pilot) the executives were in the set and tried to stop them from showing his amputated arm so they called to David as he was filming Wild at Heart and David told them on the phone that the amputated arm will not be covered.

Now, they had written or at least outlined the whole first season before they started to film the episodes beyond the pilot and David was around all that writing part, but he went away somewhere before half of the season was filmed, and after the season was completed he was still filming or post-producing Wild at Heart. So while they were writing and outlining the second season he wasn't that much there with Mark Frost during that writing process, but as they started to shoot the second season episodes David was already back and he directed the first two episodes and he was able to be around full time again.
 
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Nico_D

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That chart is pretty spot on, that's Twin Peaks in those episodes. The middle of season 2 was awful, until Earle popped up, then it started to get better again. I consider season 2 finale the definite ending of the story, it didn't need a continuation. Perfect and one of the most memorable endings in the history of tv.

As you can probably tell, I didn't care much about third season. Too long, too unfocused and just weird for the sake of weird.
 
#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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he was always talking about "They killed the goose that laid the golden egg" irt the network demanding the mystery get solved. season 3 takes that golden egg and makes it literal! the mystery is once again unlocked
 
Dacon

Dacon

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Brian Fellows said:
I liked it when it started but I lost interest by the end of season 1. The murder mystery loses all its momentum as you learn Laura Palmer was kind of a POS.
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Well Laura was a victim of bad circumstances and being a teenager she did not handle any of them well.

That said Laura's murder is just meant to be an introduction to the larger and weirder world of Twin Peaks.

Master Of Illusion said:
It upsets me that I may never experience something like S3 ever again.

The week-for-week wait and online conversations during that thing... WHEW
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Dude same. There is something so haunting and gripping about this universe.
 
Kadayi

Kadayi

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Twin Peaks influence on the very nature of TV drama cannot be understated. any TV auteur worth his salt pretty much cites it as an influence, in large part because it demonstrated that you could take an audience along on a ride and not have to explain everything along the way.

Season 3 was great. I mean was confounding and frustrating, but also joyful and a delight at times, and I absolutely loved the whole coming to GAF and being 'WTF?' about it when it was broadcast with other fans.

In fact is spurred me on to buy one of the few geeky items I own (Milton's Red Stapler from Office Space being the other)

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Also Dope soundtrack in Season 3

 
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J-Roderton

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Made it to episode 19. Getting much better but damn did some of this season drag on.

Managed to also watch more Lynch stuff including Mulholland Drive and several short films. I think I’m now a big fan.
 
J-Roderton

J-Roderton

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Finished season two over the weekend. That finale was totally worth it. I almost want to rewatch it again.

Also snagged the Criterion edition of Fire Walk With Me and the third season on dvd. FWWM was wild. Super dark but tied everything up fairly well.

Pretty anxious to see what season three is all about.
 
Dacon

Dacon

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J-Roderton said:
Finished season two over the weekend. That finale was totally worth it. I almost want to rewatch it again.

Also snagged the Criterion edition of Fire Walk With Me and the third season on dvd. FWWM was wild. Super dark but tied everything up fairly well.

Pretty anxious to see what season three is all about.
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If you think FWWM is wild Season 3 is gonna blow your fucking mind.
 
sol_bad

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Wife and I watched through season 1 last year. It's definitely a weird and peculiar show, and it obviously had a big impact on dramatical TV shows.

Even though I only watched it last year I was amazed at how serialised it was. I remembered all the shit I watched in the 80s and early 90s being procedural.

We only watched 1 episode of season 2 and haven't returned to it. I'm not sure why.
 
#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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FWWM is streaming on Prime and HBO Max

i'd recommend watching The Missing Pieces as well, cut scenes from FWWM that help to really connect to s3.
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Nah he needs to Power through Season 2 for that ending, then watch FWWM and then then watch Season 3 and probably the most insane 18 hours of Television we've witnessed in a decade
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yes the ending of S2 hits hardest if you watch all the episodes before it.
 
Nymphae

Nymphae

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Kadayi said:
Nah he needs to Power through Season 2 for that ending, then watch FWWM and then then watch Season 3 and probably the most insane 18 hours of Television we've witnessed in a decade
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I can't understand people who didn't like season 3, it's incredible

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yes the ending of S2 hits hardest if you watch all the episodes before it.
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As opposed to? It's a serial drama who would watch it in isolation lol
 
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#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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season 2 is required viewing to understand season 3 (as much as anyone can understand it ofc). you can skip it if you want but you won't get, for instance, the bizarre bredth and width of the Nadine/Ed/Norma relationship triangle, which finds the best possible resolution with a very simple and true scene in season 3. kinda feel like it hits you more the longer you have seen these characters in pain, estranged from one another. Dr. Jacoby also factors heavily into Season 3, and he plays an important role in Season 2 as well, including inserting himself into that love triangle.

really, it's best to see it all, because every new bit adds something. even The Missing Pieces, which are almost a DLC for FWWM that connects it to S3. i say watch it all, take it all in. yes the Civil War stuff is silly, and the show devolves from high art into soap opera nonsense. the beauty pagaent is such a nadir, lol, but it makes it extra great that Lynch comes in with the reality sucker punch of that S2 finale.

S3 is indeed a masterpiece and a perfect follow up to that finale. really, season 3 starts during that episode.
 
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MacReady13

MacReady13

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Possibly my fav tv show of all time. I loved season 1. Loved season 2 a little less. Drage a bit in the middle but starts and ends brilliantly. FWWM is a masterpiece that was unfairly maligned during it's viewing at Cannes (I believe it was booed and people walked out on it)! Season 3 is unlike anything I've ever seen. Incredible tv and solidified why Lynch is a master film maker. The ending of season 3 will have us questioning what it all means for a very long time...
 
Nymphae

Nymphae

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I'm going to plug this again here because I really, really enjoyed it and have seen it like 4 times, maybe not every single thing he says is "correct", but I think this guy absolutely nails a lot of what Lynch was intending with Twin Peaks. Good editing and it's just surprisingly watchable overall for being a nearly 5 hour YT video essay.

Watch it after you have seen everything obviously. He did 2 others that are on his channel as well that have even more good info

 
Space Runaway

Space Runaway

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#Phonepunk# said:
FWWM is streaming on Prime and HBO Max

i'd recommend watching The Missing Pieces as well, cut scenes from FWWM that help to really connect to s3.
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For those who know how to get it there's the Q2 fancut which reinserted all the Missing Pieces scenes according to the shooting script. You arguably end up with the ultimate Twin Peaks movie. =P
 
Airola

Airola

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Nymphae said:
I'm going to plug this again here because I really, really enjoyed it and have seen it like 4 times, maybe not every single thing he says is "correct", but I think this guy absolutely nails a lot of what Lynch was intending with Twin Peaks. Good editing and it's just surprisingly watchable overall for being a nearly 5 hour YT video essay.

Watch it after you have seen everything obviously. He did 2 others that are on his channel as well that have even more good info

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That was a really great video and absolutely interesting from the beginning to the end. The follow ups are great too.
I still think that he's right in that they are literally people in a tv show, and in whatever media their stories are told through (The Lodge stuff being the place in between our world and their tv world). But I disagree that the initial intention was to criticize other tv shows.

Still, a fantastic video. Everyone should watch it and make their own minds about it.
 
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Amory

Amory

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I watched the show for the first time earlier this year. I found it to be a waste of time, mostly. The first season was enjoyable, everything after that was kinda shit.
 
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