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[StoOgE]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/08/rumsfeld.troops.ap/index.html

:lol

 

[DarienA]

That armor question continues to pop up.. didn't 60 minutes when they did the story on the group of soldiers who refused the mission also focus on that?

Man I felt sorry for that guy who choose to be interviewed.... but it's a valid point... why are we still having armor issues....

Rumsfeld needs to take the point in bomb detection.

 

[StoOgE]

yeah, I like how he countered with "look, they are going to blow you up anyway, so why waste the money on armour?"

 

[MIMIC]

My kind of "owned" is more along the lines of friendly fire.

 

[AirBrian]

I thought this thread was going to be about card games. Damnit, card games rock.

 

[Incognito]

Can't believe this guy still has a job.

 

[DarienA]

Can't believe this guy still has a job.

Can't believe his boss still has a job either...

 

[Minotauro]

Can't believe his boss still has a job either...

I can. Have you tuned into primetime tv or visited a mall recently?

 

[DarienA]

I can. Have you tuned into primetime tv or visited a mall recently?

True... I try not to.

 

[Phoenix]

Can't believe this guy still has a job.

Rummy either has dark-side powers or has something on Bush because of all the people that really should have lost their position, Rumsfeld was ASKED to keep his position.

 

[Shogmaster]

Rummy either has dark-side powers or has something on Bush because of all the people that really should have lost their position, Rumsfeld was ASKED to keep his position.

I'd go with the latter. *thinks about all the things we already know about Bush*

Scratch that. It's dark-side powers.

 

[Incognito]

More like him being sent packing would be seen, and rightfully so, as an admission of some sort of wrongdoing. Accountability isn't a word tossed around in the BuchCo White House.

 

[ChrisReid]

That armor question continues to pop up.. didn't 60 minutes when they did the story on the group of soldiers who refused the mission also focus on that?

Well, the article says something about current production right now being up to 450 armored humvees per month up from 15 per month during August last year, and then it also says how they anticipated needing 800, but now the actual need is 6000. Yeah, sucks they were caught unprepared, but I think that's the explanation of it.. and by those figures it may yet be a few months before everyone gets an armored humvee. At least they're finally doing something about this it seems.

Edit: CNN has two versions of the article. The one linked in the original post leaves out the logistics numbers I mentioned above. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/08/rumsfeld.troops/index.html

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

More like him being sent packing would be seen, and rightfully so, as an admission of some sort of wrongdoing. Accountability isn't a word tossed around in the BuchCo White House.

Like The Daily Show was saying last night. Letting him go now would make hiring him in the first place look bad. So their advice to all the new Secretaries was to screw up big, so Bush will have to keep them around.

 

[DarthWoo]

Is anyone else sickened by the fact that now they're trying to divert attention away by accusing an embedded reporter of planting the question?

 

[bishoptl]

Where'd you hear that?

 

[Phoenix]

Where'd you hear that?

Its been floating around in the news from enough reliable places that its likely accurate.

 

[teiresias]

Is anyone else sickened by the fact that now they're trying to divert attention away by accusing an embedded reporter of planting the question?

Apparently the reporter has admitted to asking the soldier to ask the question. Doesn't change anything though, as if it weren't true the soldier simply wouldn't have gone along with asking the question, nor would Rummy have had a horrible answer to respond with, nor would the other troops have applauded when he asked the question - unless they claim the press had an "APPLAUSE" sign hanging from the ceiling and were turning it on at the appropriate time.

 

[DarthWoo]

Where'd you hear that?

To be fair, it was the editor of the paper for which the reporter worked that first mentioned it. It seems to be getting into other news sources though.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/10/chattanooga.paper.ap/index.html

 

[WedgeX]

Seems to be muckraking on the part of the reporter (muckraking in a good context, that is).

 

[DarienA]

Apparently the reporter has admitted to asking the soldier to ask the question. Doesn't change anything though, as if it weren't true the soldier simply wouldn't have gone along with asking the question, nor would Rummy have had a horrible answer to respond with, nor would the other troops have applauded when he asked the question - unless they claim the press had an "APPLAUSE" sign hanging from the ceiling and were turning it on at the appropriate time.

Exactly, ex...friggin...actly.