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[TUSR]

Shulk's name isn't centered on the far right picture.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Wifi has been 'Disablad'

"oops"

 

[GregLombardi]

It's been argued about for 10s of pages in the Smash thread. If it's a fake, it is a good one. I still think it is fake, but probably worth a more general discussion / thread.

 

[Mesoian]

http://a.pomf.se/ibcncf.webm

 

[Zalman]

There's like 5 never before seen character renders in that.

If it's fake, it took a hell of a lot of work.

And yet people still do it.

 

[Lazulic]

Isn't Game & Watch's hand overlapping Wario's slot, or am I looking at it differently?

 

[rockmanjoe]

Yeah this looks pretty convincing.

If it's true then I can't wait to try Bowser Jr. and Shulk.

 

[Mpl90]

Oh God, it's insanity time! #TeamNeutral, for now.

Dat Dog Hunt render, though. So good.

 

[DarkKyo]

These screens are fake, the Dr. Mario model can be found here:

http://fantendo.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Mario
(slight photoshoped differences)

Also I'm pretty sure Dark Pit is a re-colour of Pit, not a unique character.

Those two Dr. Mario renders look nothing like each other... placement of the hair, the depth of the stethoscope, the proportions of the face...

 

[Nintendojitsu]

Cubic zirconium is more real than this.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

These screens are fake, the Dr. Mario model can be found here:

http://fantendo.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Mario
(slight photoshoped differences)

Also I'm pretty sure Dark Pit is a re-colour of Pit, not a unique character.

I think the model is different enough that it could potentially be real.

 

[SuperSah]

I personally think fake.

The Duck Hunt render is fantastic though.

 

[KelpPlankton]

Isn't Game & Watch's hand overlapping Wario's slot, or am I looking at it differently?

No, zoom in, it's just Wario's shoulder and the poor lighting.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Isn't Game & Watch's hand overlapping Wario's slot, or am I looking at it differently?

Close up pictures say no, that's part of Wario's outfit.

 

[Mariolee]

If the thing about this being a litmus test from Smashboard Mods is true, then that is pretty genius.

 

[Tripon]

OP, why u do this.

Didn't everyone agree in the Smashgaf thread to wait until the next veteran reveal to show if this was fake or not?

 

[IntelliHeath]

I thought we agreed to wait for one more veteran to verifying the leak first before making the thread based on it. Maybe I misread someone's comments in other thread.

Yeah, I'm unsure about leak because many people pointed out the mistakes in the pictures. Also Yoshi's placement is just wrong.

 

[CronoShot]

Still on #TeamFake. Too many errors and inconsistencies.

 

[ZeroX03]

My poor heart is being torn apart by all these leaks & rumors. Just giveth me a Shulk confirmation!

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Also, in the Smash 4 trailer for Pac Man, Game & Watch has no outline. Here he does.

But that Game & Watch just appeared in a CG Cutscene, and wasn't technically the Smash Character. He looked a bit off compared to playable GW.

I don't see why the actual in-game model won't have an outline.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

I don't know why people still believe this. Even Sakurai isn't dumb enough to cut characters for more clones.

 

[Skele7on]

looks fake to me.

But if that was the final roster. I would be fine with it.

 

[GregLombardi]

If the thing about this being a litmus test from Smashboard Mods is true, then that is pretty genius.

What do you mean?

 

[Hermii]

I hope this is fake. If its real I feel really sorry for the Smash Bros team.

 

[Fey]

please god be real

 

[Beelzebufo]

I don't know why people still believe this. Even Sakurai isn't dumb enough to cut characters for more clones.

Because we don't have an irrational need for K Rool and hatred of Dark Pit.

 

[Trago]

Baby Bowser? sheeeeeeiiiit!

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I don't know why people still believe this. Even Sakurai isn't dumb enough to cut characters for more clones.

He didn't cut anyone if the source is to be believed as the cuts are coming back as DLC.

Popular theory is they might be timed for the Wii U Version.

 

[Chance Hale]

Hopefully a Fatal Frame lass makes it into the next game. This is probably fake but thinking of how the duck hunt dog would play is fun.

 

[IntelliHeath]

If the thing about this being a litmus test from Smashboard Mods is true, then that is pretty genius.

Well, I have a new theory which would make sense.

I'm pretty sure that everything were hoaxes. Here is my theory.

There is a group that worked together to make a good solid leak with good modeler backing them up. They planned out by releasing the text leak first to lure people into discussions then some people would post MORE rumors at several locations to spread variable of rumors to make people thinking that it's real.

Now it was perfect time for people to post full roster image, along with few full portrait characters (which made by good modeler) to convince people even more . I'm pretty sure that it was a group of people working together to fool people. I would guess that fake Nintendo Rep is one of them whom fooled Neo Zero (Moderator).

 

[CaptainLoveline]

I call fakes, simply because Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr.

I mean seriously, what possible movesets could they conjure up for characters who don't have any unique characteristics whatsoever. (Especially Duck Hunt Dog, what could he possibly do? Laugh at our failure to shoot ducks?)

http://a.pomf.se/ibcncf.webm

This

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Because we don't have an irrational need for K Rool and hatred of Dark Pit.

My hatred for a palette swap of Pit is irrational? Jeez, did you make this leak or something? You're being overly defensive.

 

[……forgetit]

Even if dark pit is his own character, why is he so far away from the other kid Icarus characters when Smash groups franchises together?

 

[Drencrom]

Snake as DLC?

This leak better be real

 

[Trago]

I don't see Simon Belmont.

:'(

 

[Lijik]

that Duck Hunt dog model is really good, if its fake whoever made this should post a clean version of it

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I'm calling bs, Bowser Jr in a Kart sounds ridiculous, Duck Hunt dog sounds even more ridiculous. Gotta say though, whoever came up with this is dedicated.

 

[daxgame]

pathetic fake. Not sure how people can think this is real? There are literally tons of things that makes zero sense.

 

[zma1013]

Duck Hunt Dog special is a light gun reticule player controls to shoot the other players. That's my guess.

 

[Kouichi]

I don't know why people still believe this. Even Sakurai isn't dumb enough to cut characters for more clones.

Here's the most reasonable theory to this question at the moment:

I think the theory is (I stress the word theory) that in the event Lucas/Wolf are cut, it's not because Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina were prioritized over them. It's because those three characters would already, essentially, have their model created and based off of existing character's skeletons. The theory is that Dr. Mario and Dark Pit were originally alt costumes and then promoted to actual characters (much like Lucina) because of how much less work would be involved to make them work vs. having to recreate Lucas and Wolf (as it was, Sakurai already admitted a year or two ago that creating veteran characters is not simply porting the character over -- it's equivalent to making a new character, or at least the same amount of work).

The truth of the matter is, none of the vets are just "ported" over. Yes, all their attacks and everything exist already so the conceptual phase is completely cut out for veterans but animating, programming, and modeling are still very much things the development team have to do. I really doubt they're reusing the exact same files as Brawl for characters (as in the .pacs and everything else). They might have started from Brawl's foundation (the engine) but reusing character files sounds like a generally bad idea if you want to go back and change the characters in any way. Especially because Brawl's character coding is so rooted in a bunch of ASM, routines, reference points, and goes through all these other files in the game.

In fact, there's reason to believe that because Brawl doesn't share the same file types as Melee's character files if I recall. So, even with Brawl for Melee vets they redid them completely from scratch (in a sense). This is even more evident because Melee's animation files are .dae and not what Brawl uses (which are .cr0? I think?)

Anyway, the point is... while it would be logical to make the characters future-proof for changing and easy-to-port to a future game it doesn't work that way.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Snake as DLC?

This leak better be real

Rather have him there Day 1 but i'll definitely take that as well.

 

[thecouncil]

the images in OP are broken links. anybody, uh, wanna fix that or something?

 

[TWILT]

Hmm, I'm on team Neutral for now. I'd be more than satisfied with this roster if it's true (mostly because of Shulk and Duck Hunt Dog's cool).

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Bowser Jr. is in the mini-Koopa Clown Car, as you can see in the bigger pic of him.

 

[Vamphuntr]

Why would they name a character ESRB? The ESRB don't play game, you just send them footage of the game.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

He didn't cut anyone if the source is to be believed as the cuts are coming back as DLC.

Popular theory is they might be timed for the Wii U Version.

Didn't Sakurai specifically state that there would be no DLC? More like the leaker didn't have enough time to make renders for Ice Climbers and the other unconfirmed veterans. If Snake got cut, it's not going to be over time constraints.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I call fakes, simply because Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr.

I mean seriously, what possible movesets could they conjure up for characters who don't have any unique characteristics whatsoever. (Especially Duck Hunt Dog, what could he possibly do? Laugh at our failure to shoot ducks?)


This

Fox and Captain Falcon were in ships/vehicles before Smash 64. Legitimately shocked people still say this thing about "but there are no possible movesets for them" lol

 

[Beelzebufo]

My hatred for a palette swap of Pit is irrational? Jeez, did you make this leak or something? You're being overly defensive.

Yes, yes it is. Plus, Sakurai already "cut characters for clones", he cut Squirtle for Lucina.

pathetic fake. Not sure how people can think this is real? There are literally tons of things that makes zero sense.

Such as...?

 

[Graphics Horse]

These screens are fake, the Dr. Mario model can be found here:

http://fantendo.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Mario
(slight photoshoped differences)

Also I'm pretty sure Dark Pit is a re-colour of Pit, not a unique character.

Real or not that is not a 'slight photoshop' the whole model looks different, just in the same pose.

 

[MilesTeg]

I always wondered why Nintendo didn't make a Duck Hunt for Wii. Practically a no brainer.