S______L for PS5 to be revealed soon (The dedicated blueballs/Kojima 'conspiracy' thread)

Is this new Silent Hill real or fake?

  • Real

    Votes: 330 44.6%

  • Fake

    Votes: 410 55.4%
  • Total voters
    740
  • Poll closed .
fragganaut said:
this is a video form one of the many YT Channels that somehow are loosely connected to that whole Abandoned story.


Take a look at the shadows, there is something wrong with them ... there are no shadows where one would expect them (fence casting no shadows) or some shadows seem to dark or "flying" mid air (at arround 12 sec. in.)...

Although it looks like a camera recorded video could this maybe instead have been a rendered Scene?
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FFFFUUUUUUUU That IS a pre-rendered scene! Boy, if this is what SH is gonna end up looking like.... the world is not ready 🔥
 
fragganaut said:
this is a video form one of the many YT Channels that somehow are loosely connected to that whole Abandoned story.


Take a look at the shadows, there is something wrong with them ... there are no shadows where one would expect them (fence casting no shadows) or some shadows seem to dark or "flying" mid air (at arround 12 sec. in.)...

Although it looks like a camera recorded video could this maybe instead have been a rendered Scene?
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This shit is fake and looks pretty bad
 
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fragganaut said:
this is a video form one of the many YT Channels that somehow are loosely connected to that whole Abandoned story.


Take a look at the shadows, there is something wrong with them ... there are no shadows where one would expect them (fence casting no shadows) or some shadows seem to dark or "flying" mid air (at arround 12 sec. in.)...

Although it looks like a camera recorded video could this maybe instead have been a rendered Scene?
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That looks incredible. So real. If it's being generated real time holy shit...
 
fragganaut said:
this is a video form one of the many YT Channels that somehow are loosely connected to that whole Abandoned story.


Take a look at the shadows, there is something wrong with them ... there are no shadows where one would expect them (fence casting no shadows) or some shadows seem to dark or "flying" mid air (at arround 12 sec. in.)...

Although it looks like a camera recorded video could this maybe instead have been a rendered Scene?
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Check out his shadow at 7 seconds on the right....looks weird
 
platina said:
Check out his shadow at 7 seconds on the right....looks weird
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Definitely CG footage but also probably real time. Those trees looks so natural. No wonder Hasan is making such a big deal about the placeholder ones in the original video.
 
Badenergytroll said:
When i saw that Abandoned didn't have a japanese language option, i immedietly thought it wasn't from Japan or Kojima.
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This is rather a hint that it is Kojima. There are so many languages to choose from, if he would be really Hasan he would also offer a Japanese language option. This is again a deception by Kojima, so less people will suspect him.
 
GuinGuin said:
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Definitely CG footage but also probably real time. Those trees looks so natural. No wonder Hasan is making such a big deal about the placeholder ones in the original video.
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Yup. We know the game will look insane graphically and he makes sure to let us know every chance he gets on Twitter. Don't know if these videos are related(probably not) since the game is 4k60 but at the very least there's something off about them.
 
Ok, So I just bought some of the PS 3D Pulse headphones and I used it on this trailer and...

Theres something there, it does some good spacial sound and it does sound pretty decent for a quick teaser
 
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onesvenus said:
That's the problem. I'd put money at it being a video of a real forest. I don't know why do you think it's cg
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It isn't. Look at the image I posted. Look at the headstones. You can see the polygons. Very similar visual style to PT. Very realistic at a distance but not so much up close. With the added grunt of the PS5 the realism is just that much higher though.
 
GuinGuin said:
It isn't. Look at the image I posted. Look at the headstones. You can see the polygons. Very similar visual style to PT. Very realistic at a distance but not so much up close. With the added grunt of the PS5 the realism is just that much higher though.
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Are you the guy who says "Nintendo hire this man" when looking at unreal engine Mario tech demos
 
Nobody seems to be able to answer why this game is being teased and drip fed like this? Why would you do that with some unknown indie game from some crappy studio no one has ever heard of? It makes no sense.

It only makes sense if its something much bigger that's leading up to a big reveal of some kind. We've been hearing of a big game reveal to come during late summer and also that kojima's next game will be revealed very soon. It all adds up.
 
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TheGodfather07 said:
Nobody seems to be able to answer why this game is being teased and drip fed like this? Why would you do that with some unknown indie game from some crappy studio no one has ever heard of? It makes no sense.

It only makes sense if its something much bigger that's leading up to a big reveal of some kind. We've been hearing of a big game reveal to come during late summer and also that kojima's next game will be revealed very soon. It all adds up.
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Yeah thats literally why we're here
 
TheGodfather07 said:
Nobody seems to be able to answer why this game is being teased and drip fed like this? Why would you do that with some unknown indie game from some crappy studio no one has ever heard of? It makes no sense.

It only makes sense if its something much bigger that's leading up to a big reveal of some kind. We've been hearing of a big game reveal to come during late summer and also that kojima's next game will be revealed very soon. It all adds up.
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It's not one reveal though. lol

The app is as Jeff grubb leaked and I myself have talked about is interactive real-time app where you can explore and find demo's and trailers to other titles that are going to be shown in greater length at this co-event. The app goes with the event Sony is planning.

So in one of the leaked screenshots there's a sign that says "God something" and pretty sure thats where you go to watch the new God of war trailer. Then you venture further and I bet there are clues to lead you to other game reveals as time goes on. I suspect you wont be able to view each one all at once. They want to keep the app going as a interactive experience, and in the social media. So I suspect we get to dissect clues then once people have gone through certain sections I bet sony will unlock the trailer once we hit specific % of completion.

It's super smart engagement. They did this a while back with a interactive PSX app and certain activities on PSN for you to unlock things.
 
mylifedotcom said:
Why are we even linking that YouTube video to Abandoned? Even if it's a pre-rendered or real-time CG forest, I'm not seeing what it has to do with this?
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The title is Ishmael 4. Ishmael is the narrator of Moby Dick. Moby Dick games was the fake company of Kojima. Please try to keep up. 😂
 
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GuinGuin said:
It isn't. Look at the image I posted. Look at the headstones. You can see the polygons. Very similar visual style to PT. Very realistic at a distance but not so much up close. With the added grunt of the PS5 the realism is just that much higher though.
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Yeah, there aren't any polygonal headstones anywhere in the world.
I will remember this post when I see you talking about computer graphics
 
onesvenus said:
Yeah, there aren't any polygonal headstones anywhere in the world.
I will remember this post when I see you talking about computer graphics
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Watch the video again. The shadow on the big tree doesn't move. There are only 2 bugs flying. None of the leaves move at all. There are flowers at the Graves but no names on the headstones. I could go on. It's 100% CG.
 
GuinGuin said:
Watch the video again. The shadow on the big tree doesn't move. There are only 2 bugs flying. None of the leaves move at all. There are flowers at the Graves but no names on the headstones. I could go on. It's 100% CG.
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You know all these things you say are irrefutable evidence of the video being cg can happen in real life, don't you?
 
fragganaut said:
this is a video form one of the many YT Channels that somehow are loosely connected to that whole Abandoned story.


Take a look at the shadows, there is something wrong with them ... there are no shadows where one would expect them (fence casting no shadows) or some shadows seem to dark or "flying" mid air (at arround 12 sec. in.)...

Although it looks like a camera recorded video could this maybe instead have been a rendered Scene?
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This is the stupidest shit I've seen in a thread packed full of stupid shit.

It's a handheld camera.
 
TheGodfather07 said:
Nobody seems to be able to answer why this game is being teased and drip fed like this? Why would you do that with some unknown indie game from some crappy studio no one has ever heard of? It makes no sense.
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Nothing about it makes sense because Hasan never made sense. He's been LARPing as a dev for awhile, maybe in his imagination he's a second coming of Kojima. It was pretty harmless fun before, since at worst few people bought his crappy attemt at the game and got refund I think? This time all eyes are on him.
Not sure what's his play now, as he's appears to be a total moron and compulsive liar. This time his usual m.o. of releasing crappy barely-game or simply disappearing won't work as well as before. Is he desperately trying to throw together some kind of indy game, improve what he actually already has? Is "the teaser" really everything he has and he's stalling in hopes of what? Making something while stalling, receiving some offer of sponsorship, or is he really delusional enough to believe that Konami might give him their IP?
I think he'd show more if he had more. I kinda feel sorry for him. He probably expected better reaction to his teaser, as well.

I know it's a long shot, but.... I wonder if someone will use this hype to tease actual reveal? Kojima et all seem to be teasing something independently from Hasan, now it seems like people are trolling along a little bit, but could "some one" use this whole confusion to actually release something? That's assuming there is anything to release. It would work out great for Hasan, b/c then nobody would be that angry with him.
 
onesvenus said:
It's more probable for there to be a second light source than that being a cg error.
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Just admit you're wrong. Even if there was a second source of light the camera light would dim the shadow. The light follows the camera and in a CG diffuse way rather than how even a large lantern style flashlight illuminates.
 
baphomet said:
This is the stupidest shit I've seen in a thread packed full of stupid shit.

It's a handheld camera.
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have you even watched the video? In the first 10-12 seconds are at least 3 weird shadows.

Maybe they blend real camera footage with 3d generated objects, hence the static shadows from the original video and some to dark shadows which may have been created by hand or trough 3d objects
 
fragganaut said:
have you even watched the video? In the first 10-12 seconds are at least 3 weird shadows.

Maybe they blend real camera footage with 3d generated objects, hence the static shadows from the original video and some to dark shadows which may have been created by hand or trough 3d objects
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The non-moving shadows are from some high res photographs/scans and that's why they are stuck in place.
 
Doczu said:
I'm not linking this to Abandoned in any way, but come on man. Tell me where you're from and i'll find the nearest optometrist for you.
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I have perfect sight, thank you.

GuinGuin said:
Just admit you're wrong. Even if there was a second source of light the camera light would dim the shadow. The light follows the camera and in a CG diffuse way rather than how even a large lantern style flashlight illuminates.
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Just admit that no one can say anything definitive about it being cg or not. You are in your camp and I'm on mine. You think I'm wrong and I think you are. That's life.
 
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I only used automatic correction, but it looks like a table and... a door? There's something blue-ish on the right and on the bottom too. That door is weird though, it looks like a windowed door of some kind.
 
rofif said:
This looks like unity. Nothing too crazy... tlou2 has better forest parts and Death Stranding has better plains
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I didn't say it was the best forest ever I said the tech used to make it with the baked in place shadows is a match for Ishmael 4.
 
TheGodfather07 said:
Nobody seems to be able to answer why this game is being teased and drip fed like this? Why would you do that with some unknown indie game from some crappy studio no one has ever heard of? It makes no sense.

It only makes sense if its something much bigger that's leading up to a big reveal of some kind. We've been hearing of a big game reveal to come during late summer and also that kojima's next game will be revealed very soon. It all adds up.
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My guess is it's because Hasan is trying to build a large following and then secure a publishing deal off the back of it. That and he just enjoys the attention.
 
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