The fact that the only thing taken is the fins and rest of the animal is dumped back into the sea alive is especially vulgar.
Saddest extinction to you?
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The fact that the only thing taken is the fins and rest of the animal is dumped back into the sea alive is especially vulgar.
I'm so fucking mad, god dammit.
I also thought of this.
Yeah they had art, their own tech, societal structures, and ceremonial observations. They reflected on the death of their kin much like we do. Amazing! How awesome would it be to just sit with a live Neanderthal and talk to him/her and see all the similarities and differences. It's bad enough when we wipe a civilization within our own species, but in multiple instances we lost completely the perspectives of different species still likely capable of reflecting on the world.
Well... there is some Neanderthal DNA in all of us... So some of us had that thought at one point. No, really, that's a fact.
That shark article... it's insanely frustrating to see that stuff and not be able to just out a stop to it. The fact that most of the shark isn't even used adds all the more insult to injury.
The loss of other sapiens is really sad as well.
Wish we could see what the world would be like with them.
The loss of other sapiens is really sad as well.
Wish we could see what the world would be like with them.
Rabid-Coot
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It wouldn't be the first time an extinct Austrailian animal was found to still be living in the wild. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parma_wallaby
Stereogatari
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Yep, such an unnecessary and fully documented one as well...
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Never heard about these (or I've forgotten if I did). But look at the size of them (the purple one).
Shuggananas
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it's ok it makes dick very big yes
I can't say any of them are the saddest, because all the animals our selfish species hunted to extinction are a sad loss to nature and to the world and it's all our fault.
Our species just simply doesn't care about animals. We never have. While we do do more now to try and protect the species we've already damaged, in most cases it's too little too late. Hopefully science will evolve to a point soon that we can start reintroducing things like the Elephant Bird into Madagascar and regrow all the rainforest we cut down. Some humans don't seem to realise without the immense rainforests there's not going to be any humans left to destroy the rest of it. We're slowly doing what we've done to other species to ourselves, we're destroying our own habitat and things that keep us alive.
Our species just simply doesn't care about animals. We never have. While we do do more now to try and protect the species we've already damaged, in most cases it's too little too late. Hopefully science will evolve to a point soon that we can start reintroducing things like the Elephant Bird into Madagascar and regrow all the rainforest we cut down. Some humans don't seem to realise without the immense rainforests there's not going to be any humans left to destroy the rest of it. We're slowly doing what we've done to other species to ourselves, we're destroying our own habitat and things that keep us alive.
Isn't the most accepted theory just that we interbred? They've found neanderthal DNA in people of European descent after all.
Stereogatari
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I thought it, but I didn't want to say it :'(
Yes, we were closely related enough to them that I don't see them as "different animals".
Er... Vikings were homo sapiens. Ergo not extinct. They were a civilisation which kept on evolving until the present day. Although a civilisation can certainly disappear like an animal species due to cataclismic events or genocide.Dont care about animals really but i do miss vikings.
Then most of the examples in this thread don't count.
"Hey we still have some fish, so who cares about those sharks!", "oh birds? we still have shitloads of those!", etc.
We bred with Neanderthals, yeah, but what about the rest? Were we capable of breeding with the others? And to what extent did we cross breed? I don't think the theory is that we simply loved them all into nonexistence. It's silly on its face. Look at how bad racism is in our own species. The theories are probably more complex as a combination of inter species competition, some breeding, and environmental pressure [After all, even we nearly came close to extinction]. Even so they are effectively gone all the same.
Stereogatari
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I was speaking in the context of why I don't find it interesting that were other sapient animals just like us, because they literally were just like us, we could interbreed with them and such.
But even extending the context of what I said to how you've interpreted it, then it's obviously not applicable since a lot of these giant birds and sharks wouldn't have been able to interbreed with their "normal" equivalents.
Shuggananas
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It's good there is only one race of "humans" left, racism would be a problem otherwise
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Inquisitive_Ghost
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I came to say this. They only went extinct a few centuries ago, and only because people killed them all.
WE COULD HAVE HAD GIANT BIRDS, DAMMIT
I was at a zoo in Singapore a few years back seeing them feed the white tigers. It was nice and they were quite majestic animals. Near the end the presenter said in a fairly ambivalent voice that they were effectively extinct - i.e. there's not enough of them in the world to last another generation. It really hit home and knocked the wind out of me - people are just really shitty to everything that's not people.
*looks at avatar* Indeed
Actually, we're pretty shitty to everything including people.
The thing I don't get is that they make money from the fins, no? Why wouldn't they want to help keep sharks from going extinct if they could keep making money off of them?
I mean they're not much more taller than an ostrich (ostrich is something like six-eleven to 9ft tall). I think one of the largest ostriches is 12 ft although these heights are definitely not accounting for difference in weight that the elephant bird had on the ostrich. Those were some fat birds
Edit: looking it up further I can't find any evidence of a 12 foot tall ostrich. Meh, moa's were taller than both elephant bird and ostrich anyways.
Shuggananas
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Because they're fucking stupid that's why.
The harder it gets to produce this stuff, the more people are willing to pay to get it. The little communities that are actually doing the work aren't aware that the animals will actually disappear off the face of the planet and are only seeing the money.
Tiger/Rhino/elephant poaching and whatnot is an entirely different game to sharkfin though.
Benzychenz
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I was at the Singapore zoo myself a couple years back
The white tigers were a thing of beauty indeed.
Oh I'm sure they're well aware. They just don't give a shit and only see the money.
No they weren't. There were very real physiological and genetic differences. Their classifications in proper science isn't some willy-nilly thing. The size/shape of their cranium was different. Their muscle and skeletal structured differed significantly. Physically speaking, a Neanderthal was no joke compared to a human, because they had adapted differently and more specifically to their respective environment with very little, if any, genetic crossings between us and them for a significant time.
According to this Humans and Neanderthals are tangentially related because there is a common ancestor from which we both diverged. Humans didn't directly diverge from Neanderthals nor vice versa. All 3 of these species remained close enough to cross breed, yes, but they are different species. Cross breeding does not disprove speciation.
Psychologically speaking, it's probable we had a lot in common though... but we'll never know for sure.
GeordieMark
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I'd love to have seen a T-Rex and a Megalodon.
From a safe distance obviously...
From a safe distance obviously...
Tasmanian tiger/thylacine.
A relatively recent extinction and all because of human stupidity.
Someone thinks they spot them every so often, and there a masses of articles written by people who believe they're still out there but sadly there is no concrete evidence as of yet showing it to be true.
A relatively recent extinction and all because of human stupidity.
Someone thinks they spot them every so often, and there a masses of articles written by people who believe they're still out there but sadly there is no concrete evidence as of yet showing it to be true.
Importers would be fully aware, the smaller communities though? You probably have lots like the Taiwanese mafia telling them it's all western lies.
Business
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The recent or relatively recent ones. All the stuff lost in New Zealand, Moas and Haasts eagle specially, also the Tasmanian tiger. Then Mammoths and other big ice age mammals. I hope I can see them revived in my lifetime.
Also Neanderthals, but I'm not sure I'd be ok to bring back one.
Also Neanderthals, but I'm not sure I'd be ok to bring back one.
The saddest are human cause ones... The dinosaurs one is just sad from a scientific/curiosity point of view. It must have been amazing to roam on a earth composed of such radically different ecosystems. Some of the terrestrial creatures were on a completely different scale level than what we have now...
Business
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I had a glimpse of that this summer walking in a giant sequoia forest, it felt like I was in another time or another planet.
DiipuSurotu
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Martians!
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Yep. The whole species killed by a pet and only a year after it was first discovered. It's sad because of how innocent the story is. Poor lighthouse keeper must have felt rather guilty despite it not really being his fault.
Yep. The whole species killed by a pet and only a year after it was first discovered. It's sad because of how innocent the story is. Poor lighthouse keeper must have felt rather guilty despite it not really being his fault.
Frosty Droid
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Haast's eagle. So close, yet so far.
Those eagles are fantastic, though they would make hiking in New Zealand's wilderness more dangerous.
Dictator93
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Mammoth and Mastodon... beautiful creatures.
JimmyRustler
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Erm... The white tiger is not a race though but a result from a gen defect. Like an albino.
If wiki is to be believed (which I suppose it is), all living white tiger are descendants once caught in the wild.
I've been in the zoo in Singapore as well btw.
Beautiful animals.
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