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Samurai Jack Season 5 |OT| But Yeah, Im Thinking Im Back.
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Chained Prometheus
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Really? I enjoyed Jack in this episode and all (especially the flashback intro), but Ashi was the MVP this ep for me personally.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess!
Mr. Smiley
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Jack's rage and Ashi's mother defeat was a bit underwhelming.
Chained Prometheus
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I'm gonna miss hobo Jack.
Same tbh. I'm fine with him getting his old clothes back, but god do I wish he'd kept the beard and long hair.
chaosblade
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Mostly the first part with her knocking all the guys down the mountain, just seemed a little ridiculous even for this show. The rest was fine though.
Admiral Woofington
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gotta go back
gott go back
LumberJack :'(
gott go back
LumberJack :'(
Chezzymann
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I just dont like how they changed jacks old look, should have kept the same face shape
Agreed, also wasn't a fan of his old look getting magically zapped on him. Great episode otherwise though.
Admiral Woofington
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any rush on the plot elements at this point I'll attribute to the extremely small episode count. We've seen what Genndy can do in a regular sized season, he now has to close down plot points and rush through them to get to finish the show.
Reminded me of that move Kratos had in God of War 3
Haha, true true.
Well, I kinda got used to the rushed factor. Still solid episodes. I somehow expect Ashi's mum to reappear.
Saucycarpdog
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I was grooving on the mane.
buddha0991
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Scaramouche is finally gonna contact Aku to tell him Jack's sword is gone and Aku is gonna run out and confront Jack all giddy and then Jack is just gonna whip it out babe and thats that
Well she and her sisters were bred for the single purpose of taking out Jack in his prime. They were still clearly outmatched but they're probably some of the few people who have ever come close to actually killing him. And Ashi was supposedly the strongest of them, so it's not really a stretch to think that she could plow through an army of grunts.
We've only got 3 episodes left, right?
He's lankier. That's why it looks odd. They changed his look to fit bearded Jack, but now it looks a little weird now that he has no beard.
Chezzymann
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his chin is pointier and he has a pointed cheekbone instead of a smooth curve to the side of his face
Sibersk Esto
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Original Jack looks off because for some reason, they don't give his eyes their old outlines
PixelatedBookake
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Original Jack looks off because for some reason, they don't give his eyes their old outlines
I knew this was it. He looked too...clean? I don't dislike it I just expected the rugged beard Jack to be endgame until he finally went back.
Yea, it's crazy how much of a difference that makes. I mean there's other "anatomically correct" changes like the less square jaw, but I think the eye around the outline is the biggest one.
I did an edit to compare.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
^ yup big difference
The beginning part was very eery. Like it was a 5 minute midquel of sorts. It was still Jack with his original good humor (barely, and only at first) but the time portals are nearly gone and the background colors were dark and gloomy like in the season 5 timeline. When I was watching it I was wondering when it took place after he was transported to the future. 5 years? 20? 30?
Mr. Smiley
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I thought it was chin throwing me off. It's a bit slimmer this time around.
Admiral Woofington
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if time stopped for him to begin with
how did he grow a beard.
how did he grow a beard.
Ryouji Gunblade
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Probably the same way he heals. Maybe it's a Wolverine thing.
Admiral Woofington
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Ok now that I've had more time to process it
Samurai Jack Season 5 Episode 7
I was hoping the last episode was going to be the only one with horrible pacing but it was not the case. The show almost feels like Genndy did the first half of the show thinking he had a 20+ episode slot season and somebody later came in and told him that no he actually had 10 so instead of being 1/4th of the way done he was halfway done already. He then grabbed scripts together, took off fluff and then pasted them together in an awkward fashion.
Episode 6 it was forgivable. It was a flashback episode aimed at showing members of Jack's army that would join the Scotts in helping Jack defeat Aku. Also to show Ashi's transformation via the very obvious 'butterfly metamorphosis' scene where she changes outwardly. Whatever.
But this episode then decided to close off 3 different subplots into once again an extremely awkward fashion in the rush to reach the finish line. We had
Issue number 1 with the episode though was the Ashi fight. What the ever living fuck. Did someone do a cheat code off screen? When Jack fights hordes of enemies it's already hard to grasp, but at least like when he does it's either a struggle due to being underarmed (first time battling beetles), or easy when he has years of experience AND has a lot of weaponry (this season's beetle fight). And even then, he doesn't fight a WHOLE fucking army and descimate enemies within seconds.
Is this freaking Dynasty Warriors? When did Ashi gain the strength to literally push a sea of men? If she can do this proportionally then why the fuck was she struggling with the mechanic/electrician dude during the children episode. It felt like a fan fiction video game cutscene and I disliked it.
Second issue is how quickly all of the subplots ended. It felt like a parody 'in a nutshell' video from back in the early days of the internet.
I am going to give Genndy the benefit of the doubt with these last two episodes that he had a big idea of how to end this properly and then had to cut shit out that he felt wasn't as necessary to the last couple of episodes. For the love of God, please have the pacing in these last 3 episodes feel more natural like the first half of the season. Assuming fighting Aku is a two parter, that means we would only have 1 more episode of a journey.
I don't know man. I'm eager to finishing the show but the execution in these last two episodes has left me wanting. I'm sure somebody could counter every complaint I have in here with something to make it less jarring, but me as a viewer and fan of the show none of this felt earned and pacing felt extremely off.
Samurai Jack Season 5 Episode 7
I was hoping the last episode was going to be the only one with horrible pacing but it was not the case. The show almost feels like Genndy did the first half of the show thinking he had a 20+ episode slot season and somebody later came in and told him that no he actually had 10 so instead of being 1/4th of the way done he was halfway done already. He then grabbed scripts together, took off fluff and then pasted them together in an awkward fashion.
Episode 6 it was forgivable. It was a flashback episode aimed at showing members of Jack's army that would join the Scotts in helping Jack defeat Aku. Also to show Ashi's transformation via the very obvious 'butterfly metamorphosis' scene where she changes outwardly. Whatever.
But this episode then decided to close off 3 different subplots into once again an extremely awkward fashion in the rush to reach the finish line. We had
Ashi's mom/past catching up to her, Jack finding his sword, and Jack dealing with his anger/despair being what made him lose the sword to begin with.
Issue number 1 with the episode though was the Ashi fight. What the ever living fuck. Did someone do a cheat code off screen? When Jack fights hordes of enemies it's already hard to grasp, but at least like when he does it's either a struggle due to being underarmed (first time battling beetles), or easy when he has years of experience AND has a lot of weaponry (this season's beetle fight). And even then, he doesn't fight a WHOLE fucking army and descimate enemies within seconds.
Is this freaking Dynasty Warriors? When did Ashi gain the strength to literally push a sea of men? If she can do this proportionally then why the fuck was she struggling with the mechanic/electrician dude during the children episode. It felt like a fan fiction video game cutscene and I disliked it.
Second issue is how quickly all of the subplots ended. It felt like a parody 'in a nutshell' video from back in the early days of the internet.
"Ashi I am your mom, do what you should-AAAAAAAAAAH I'M DEFEATED"
"I am angry Jack it is not I who has held you back but actually y-AAAAAAAAAAH I'M DEFEATED"
"Man I really need to find my sword, oh hey I defeated my evil version"
Deus Ex Godchina: WE ARE PLOT DEVICE HERE IS SWORD, SHAVE, HAIRCUT AND ROBES
"I am angry Jack it is not I who has held you back but actually y-AAAAAAAAAAH I'M DEFEATED"
"Man I really need to find my sword, oh hey I defeated my evil version"
Deus Ex Godchina: WE ARE PLOT DEVICE HERE IS SWORD, SHAVE, HAIRCUT AND ROBES
I am going to give Genndy the benefit of the doubt with these last two episodes that he had a big idea of how to end this properly and then had to cut shit out that he felt wasn't as necessary to the last couple of episodes. For the love of God, please have the pacing in these last 3 episodes feel more natural like the first half of the season. Assuming fighting Aku is a two parter, that means we would only have 1 more episode of a journey.
I don't know man. I'm eager to finishing the show but the execution in these last two episodes has left me wanting. I'm sure somebody could counter every complaint I have in here with something to make it less jarring, but me as a viewer and fan of the show none of this felt earned and pacing felt extremely off.
Zeus Molecules
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I wish they would have kept the beard; after this past season, the classic costume doesn't feel right.
I agree about the Anger Jack, but the High Priestess doesn't look like she'd be a foe who would be defeated by an arrow to the gut & a fall (She would have still landed on the mountain). Plus, we never get a cut to her corpse. She's probably still alive.
I agree about the Anger Jack, but the High Priestess doesn't look like she'd be a foe who would be defeated by an arrow to the gut & a fall (She would have still landed on the mountain). Plus, we never get a cut to her corpse. She's probably still alive.
Wow, that does make a big difference.Yea, it's crazy how much of a difference that makes. I mean there's other "anatomically correct" changes like the less square jaw, but I think the eye around the outline is the biggest one.
I did an edit to compare.
Funyarinpa
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I get the worries about the pacing, but fuck it we got 10 episodes.
RIP beard. Should've kept it. Oh well, the old look is still feels.
RIP beard. Should've kept it. Oh well, the old look is still feels.
Dash_Riprock
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If it feels rushed here imagine what it would've been like for a 2 hour movie.
Yeah I know what you mean. If you had no idea of the episode count then the pace in the early episodes made it seem like getting the sword back would be this epic 3-episode journey, and a fight against the mother would be a 2-episode mini-boss that took Ashi and Jack both to take her down. Then you look at the episode count and realize they're going to have to wrap this shit up really quick.
It is a little underwhelming for Jack to have spent years (decades?) without his sword and then to get it back within 10 minutes. What made it better for me is realizing that with the route they took in Jack getting his sword back, then he's spent 7 episodes earning it back all along as he restored his sanity.
I wanted scenes of Jack ordering a tailored robe and haircut, full-on John Wick style
I'd hope they'd more closely integrate the Daughters with Aku. You could've kept Ashi but maybe cut how long it takes for her to have her transformation, then streamline finding Jack's sword and rushing Aku.
I'd hope they'd more closely integrate the Daughters with Aku. You could've kept Ashi but maybe cut how long it takes for her to have her transformation, then streamline finding Jack's sword and rushing Aku.
I don't see how it could've been done. They would've had to cut the Ashi/daughters of Aku subplot nearly entirely
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