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I'm seriously curious as to what kind of mental gymnastics will be involved when Bernie's supporters try to defend this.
Just ignore him, he's not gonna give any ground even though he's justifying what is objectively baseless fuckery
Sanders is basically saying hey DNC remember Nevada, remember the chaos and harassment and death threats?
Give me what I want or I'll bring that on a national scale.
But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take it over," apparently referring to the event, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.
"This is your state," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters at a meeting to prepare for the convention. "This is your party. This is your opportunity to take it over and for you guys to have an influence that will last way beyond the campaign. And I think that's what the political revolution is all about."
I'm seriously curious as to what kind of mental gymnastics will be involved when Bernie's supporters try to defend this.
Eh. I like Hillary a whole lot, but what "left" means isn't exactly clearly defined. I expect her to be a lot more left than her detractors think on things like education and social justice issues, but she's probably not going to be the most liberal economic figureIf the democrats could stop the infighting, let Hillary focus on the general and delivering good downticket results to secure a healthy margin in the senate, then and only then will you see progress for liberal causes. Hillary will without a doubt go as far left as she can once she's in office.
You're right!
It's actually Cruz-esque.
You're right!
It's actually Cruz-esque.
I'm seriously curious as to what kind of mental gymnastics will be involved when Bernie's supporters try to defend this.
Exactly. He's already made that bed. Hire a lot of security and let the shit hit the fan. Maybe the PR damage is fixed by the election, maybe not but this is he path Sanders has chosen and further capitulation will not help short of giving him the nomination.You know what, it doesn't really matter how the DNC responds to this, they're going to riot no matter what happens at this point. Fuck em.
I am legitimately getting more and more worried about the DNConvention as the days go by. This could get real ugly, real quick.
Because he said some mean things about him back in the 90's when he tried pulling a stunt not unlike this, and apparently seems to hold quite the grudge over that. Unfortunately, it seems Donald Trump isn't the only candidate with very thin skin and an ego that's much too large.Why on earth would he want to get rid of Barney Frank? Can't wait until this guy becomes yesterday's news.
Even if he does? At this point it's basically worthless.
I am legitimately getting more and more worried about the DNConvention as the days go by. This could get real ugly, real quick.
Same here. Over his bullshit.Despite preferring Hilary, I never really disliked Bernie. I hate him quite a bit now. He's just being destructionist as fuck at this point.
Good. Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters should do everything in their power to fight and disrupt the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Trump is going to win, isn't he? Or will the Democratic party stop fighting itself before we're doomed?
Yeah, destruction of the one legitimate path to progressive legislation when the opponent is an overt fascist calling for white supremacy and isolationism is just so damn fascinating, right?I have been one saying that Bernie was using his support to position for more power within the party (as a relative newcomer to the Ds). I thought he was taking the fight to the established party all the way to the convention in order to keep his base rallied and use it as a platform. Now I'm kinda confused as to his end game. He is just burning bridges at this point.
How strange, yet interesting to watch.
Oh also fuck off Bernie with this bizarre feud with Barney Frank, a figure who on paper is one of the staunchest ideological allies you can find in this fucking country
Good. Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters should do everything in their power to fight and disrupt the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Even if it won't change the result, these things have impacts that last into future elections and generations. i.e. "What we do in life echoes in eternity".
Talk to me about being all right when you have things like Universal Healthcare that the rest of us enjoy.
That i agree with!
It's an important difference. Call it petty, unnecessary, sore loser. Cant disagree. But Trump esque is not accurate.
That i agree with!
It's an important difference. Call it petty, unnecessary, sore loser. Cant disagree. But Trump esque is not accurate.
Contrary to popular belief US is doing pretty all right.
Good. Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters should do everything in their power to fight and disrupt the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Good. Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters should do everything in their power to fight and disrupt the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Even if it won't change the result, these things have impacts that last into future elections and generations. i.e. "What we do in life echoes in eternity".
Yep, it'll ensure that the DNC never lets another democratic socialist like Sanders get a platform for a generation or two.Even if it won't change the result, these things have impacts that last into future elections and generations. i.e. "What we do in life echoes in eternity".
Contrary to popular belief US is doing pretty all right.
The Democratic Party isn't fighting itself. They let a supposed independent ally run and he is trying to start a violent revolution to placate his own ego. Spinning this as a problem with the party is exactly the kind of cover that has let this jackass get as far as he has.Trump is going to win, isn't he? Or will the Democratic party stop fighting itself before we're doomed?
It's amazing how a year can change someone's opinion. I went from liking Bernie Sanders, to being indifferent, to now just wishing he would go away and stop.
At this point I really feel Barney Frank's 1991 assessment of Sanders was 100% correct.
"His holier-than-thou attitude - saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone - really undercuts his effectiveness"
"To him, anybody who disagrees with him is a crook; there are no honest disagreements with people. Bernie's view of the world is that the great majority of people agree with him on all the issues and the only reason he does not win is that the Congress is crooked"
Talk to me about being all right when you have things like Universal Healthcare that the rest of us enjoy.
I am now waiting for Frank so spit unabated 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 at Sanders
Holy shit.
Talk to me about being all right when you have things like Universal Healthcare that the rest of us enjoy.
Fuck right off with that shit. Easy for you to say "let the streets burn in that other country that's not mine". I'm not even American, and your post angers me.