balladofwindfishes
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All I see is a man trying to help his odds going into the convention. This is a dog fight, as it should be.
His odds at the convention is 0%
After this letter, it's still 0%.
All I see is a man trying to help his odds going into the convention. This is a dog fight, as it should be.
Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
Especially considering Barney Frank is a very well liked (and influential) Democrat..If you mean he is trying to get superdelegates... This is probably really not the best way.
As I understand it they are making $$ bank off Bernie's donations, the irony is delicious. All those $27 donations are just being siphoned off to already wealthy people.I think Bernie's campaign managers have gotten to him. Ughhh
Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
No.Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
I can tell you right now that trying to extort the Democratic Party will not help his odds going into the convention.All I see is a man trying to help his odds going into the convention. This is a dog fight, as it should be.
Are you saying financial regulation is more complicated than a simple table of asset sizes?Depends on why they're getting bigger.
No. He's missed far too many deadlines if he wanted to register for an independent run.Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
His odds at the convention is 0%
After this letter, it's still 0%.
Canda's system is far more stable than ours due to the concentration.
Our system is built on banks dying and being mulched into other banks ad nauseum. This happens in large part because the banks are small and regional, and thus prone to huge issues if their local market crashes. But because the big ones over there in Canada are in so many cookie jars, that chronic instability due to the housing market doesn't exist.
Wrong. All of your certainty comes from pledges older than the primary election cycle. Nothing is finished.
Wrong. All of your certainty comes from pledges older than the primary election cycle. Nothing is finished.
This is adorable.Wrong. All of your certainty comes from pledges older than the primary election cycle. Nothing is finished.
Wrong. All of your certainty comes from pledges older than the primary election cycle. Nothing is finished.
Is there any chance Bernie could do a third party independent run in the GE?
Yeah, destruction of the one legitimate path to progressive legislation when the opponent is an overt fascist calling for white supremacy and isolationism is just so damn fascinating, right?
No. He's missed far too many deadlines if he wanted to register for an independent run.
Is it not?
I have a question. Since I'm Canadian I don't know the full details of how the US system works.
A lot of people in here are saying things like "If Trump wins, it'll be Bernie's fault" and acting like a non-unified democratic party at the convention is a bad thing.
Which... is confusing, for a few reasons. Isn't the convention to decide the nominee? So why is it the end of the world that this guy doesn't want to give up till then? Especially since its only just two months away? Shouldn't that be how things are supposed to work? What makes this convention that important that things need to be decided months beforehand? Plus the republicans have their own fiasco going on, so I'm having trouble seeing why this is such a big deal.
Plus people are acting like Bernie is evil for going against the party. But my understanding is he was never really a democrat to begin with? He only went with them cause running as an independent would have gotten him no where?
A non-snarky explanation would be sincerely appreciated.
Would be a more legit argument if the race wasn't already over. He can't win, he can just make Hillary lose.
Guys Barnie Frank is fucking awesome
"Sir I haven't had a secret in 21 years"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yucsLA6gXrw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JR1iS_38is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jcdai100SOM
All I see is a man trying to help his odds going into the convention. This is a dog fight, as it should be.
Man, some of ya'll got to chill. This topic is like the Two Minute Hate.
This doesn't change the outcome of the primary. Hillary Clinton is still going to be the nominee. Barnie Frank chose to attack Bernie with some very public and pointed criticism in this primary season. Now Bernie is in a position of some power over the DNC, so he's getting payback for that, and past slights. It's a bit petty but that's politics. The primary will be over in a few weeks and we can look ahead to the general election. No sense in getting raged now.
Which does seem to be why he's trying to extract some concessions from the party itself. Obviously he's not gonna admit he can't win until the last possible minute, but I think he's trying to shape the convention to be closer to his campaign's ideas. Which, seems like an obvious thing to do.
And if a losing candidate trying to get more influence within a party (changing committee positions and potentially protests?) is that damaging to the leading candidate, it doesn't seem like the candidate was that strong in the first place.
I hope the DNC compromises.
Keep frank
Throw Malloy down a well
Sincerely CT resident
Only if West gets to fired from a cannon.
Please. As was said earlier in the thread, Ted Cruz had the decency to give Trump a clear run once it was clear he couldn't get a majority of the pledged delegates. Any time you can't even meet Ted Cruz standards, you should take a long look in the mirror.
Man, some of ya'll got to chill. This topic is like the Two Minute Hate.
This doesn't change the outcome of the primary. Hillary Clinton is still going to be the nominee. Barnie Frank chose to attack Bernie with some very public and pointed criticism in this primary season. Now Bernie is in a position of some power over the DNC, so he's getting payback for that, and past slights. It's a bit petty but that's politics. The primary will be over in a few weeks and we can look ahead to the general election. No sense in getting raged now.
Man, some of ya'll got to chill. This topic is like the Two Minute Hate.
So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions of the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for VP
So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions from the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for VP
I really don't think he deserves that anymore.So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions from the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for VP
No it's about satisfying Bernie's ego.So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions of the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for VP
It's amazing how a year can change someone's opinion. I went from liking Bernie Sanders, to being indifferent, to now just wishing he would go away and stop.
At this point I really feel Barney Frank's 1991 assessment of Sanders was 100% correct.
"His holier-than-thou attitude - saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone - really undercuts his effectiveness"
"To him, anybody who disagrees with him is a crook; there are no honest disagreements with people. Bernie's view of the world is that the great majority of people agree with him on all the issues and the only reason he does not win is that the Congress is crooked"
So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions of the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for VP
So AMERICA-GAF this is all about forcing concessions from the Democrats?
I wonder if he is hoping for a VP offer from Hillary. I get the impression she hates him though...