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SbF: Super Best Friends Play Thread: ReBoot

Is Eyes of Heaven gonna have spoilers for me if I'm just following along with the anime? I know the JoJo protagonists from the upcoming parts but other than that I know as much as the anime.
 

convo

Member
Time to finish up part 6, I guess.

Then you should also commit to finishing Part 7 as well. Because god,steel balls cannot be contained,way too much essential stuff. Pat is gonna let those shocking bombs out and Wollie has to then correct him on it,because he actually read Steel Ball Run.
 
Well i guess were going to get a Persona 5 lp then

Oh man, Woolie and Pat fighting over which waifu to spend time with is going to be epic.

I bet that even if Woolie's on the controls, Pat "volunteers" for a "grinding session" and Woolie comes back to find that he's gone all-in on dating the worst possible waifu.
 
They said something on the podcast? If so, cool, just another day 1 blind LP that I won't watch. -_-

You realize with the way Pat and Woolie have both said they play Persona, you're going to have like five years to get in front of the LP. (I can't remember Woolie's in-game clock but it was something on the order of "absolutely fucking ridiculous" because he tried to talk to every NPC he could at literally every opportunity in case they had new dialogue.)
 

Edzi

Member
You realize with the way Pat and Woolie have both said they play Persona, you're going to have like five years to get in front of the LP. (I can't remember Woolie's in-game clock but it was something on the order of "absolutely fucking ridiculous" because he tried to talk to every NPC he could at literally every opportunity in case they had new dialogue.)

It's not a matter of me being behind them, I just think blind LPs and choosing new releases just for views (especially for games the guys are personally looking forward to) leads to low quality content. It appeals to more people, sure, but the LP itself probably won't be as good as it could have been had they waited until long after they'd finished it. Blind LPs have their place and some games work better for that format than others, but their choices lately just scream of trying to catch the day one hype to the detriment of their content quality and their personal enjoyment of the games.
 

Strimei

Member
Well i guess were going to get a Persona 5 lp then

Ehh...I hope not.

I feel like RPGs tend to not be the best LP material (or at least, video LP). Like, all I can think of is Giant Bomb's endurance run. As many great moments as it had (and I truly weep that we'll likely not have one for P5), it still felt like a real slog. Though, saying that, I'm more than sure that any of the zaibatsu LPing it would get through it much faster than Vinny and Jeff.
 
They said something on the podcast? If so, cool, just another day 1 blind LP that I won't watch. -_-
They didn't confirm that they would, its just that when liam discribed the P5 chalice dungeons type things were you could earn xp without advancing the story, you could feel Pat staring at woolie when he said "That could be increadibly useful".
I maybe reading to much into it but thats the impression i got
 
Ehh...I hope not.

I feel like RPGs tend to not be the best LP material (or at least, video LP). Like, all I can think of is Giant Bomb's endurance run. As many great moments as it had (and I truly weep that we'll likely not have one for P5), it still felt like a real slog. Though, saying that, I'm more than sure that any of the zaibatsu LPing it would get through it much faster than Vinny and Jeff.
If they are going to LP it, i just hope that atleast on of them completes it first cause holy shit, im not watching them both play a rpg blind
 

Strimei

Member
They didn't confirm that they would, its just that when liam discribed the P5 chalice dungeons type things were you could earn xp without advancing the story, you could feel Pat staring at woolie when he said "That could be increadibly useful".
I maybe reading to much into it but thats the impression i got

I took it more as just something useful to level in without worrying about potentially advancing the plot, though honestly its not that hard already to level up in the various dungeons without doing it.
 
I took it more as just something useful to level in without worrying about potentially advancing the plot, though honestly its not that hard already to level up in the various dungeons without doing it.
I don't know, Woolies delayed reaction to pat was suspect. Will we bet on it? :)
 

Strimei

Member
I don't know, Woolies delayed reaction to pat was suspect. Will we bet on it? :)

Haha, I dunno. Had I been a member (instead of waiting for my registration to go through, as I recall) at the time, I was gonna take part in the Persona community thread's bet about when P5 was going to release (western release, specifically), and I'd have been on the losing side...

Eh, why not, if you're up for it too, sure!
 

Okingjrr

Member
Then you should also commit to finishing Part 7 as well. Because god,steel balls cannot be contained,way too much essential stuff. Pat is gonna let those shocking bombs out and Wollie has to then correct him on it,because he actually read Steel Ball Run.

And part 7. It spoils every part in vivid detail except for 8.

Every death, every Stand, every surprise. All spoiled.

Well, damn...
 
They didn't confirm that they would, its just that when liam discribed the P5 chalice dungeons type things were you could earn xp without advancing the story, you could feel Pat staring at woolie when he said "That could be increadibly useful".
I maybe reading to much into it but thats the impression i got
I hear that as pat liking to grind more'n anything else. Sides, don't they not like doing long lps cause viewer retention is usually shit on those?
 
I hear that as pat liking to grind more'n anything else. Sides, don't they not like doing long lps cause viewer retention is usually shit on those?

Yeah, pretty sure pat would describe persona 5 as lp poison. while I don't agree(i started watching TBF because of the two best sisters persona 4 video and the first lp i watched was chrono trigger and enjoyed it even if pat is wrong for using Robo over Ayla) I'm willing to bet most people don't stick with long lpa, as mentioned above, and unfortunately they don't make lps just for me(although in my case I would not particularly want it to be a blind lp).
 
I hear that as pat liking to grind more'n anything else. Sides, don't they not like doing long lps cause viewer retention is usually shit on those?
They do long lps all the time though. Human revloution, Zelda and Dark souls 3 are long ones they have done recently. Again, i maybe reading too much into it so we'll see
 
Haha, I dunno. Had I been a member (instead of waiting for my registration to go through, as I recall) at the time, I was gonna take part in the Persona community thread's bet about when P5 was going to release (western release, specifically), and I'd have been on the losing side...

Eh, why not, if you're up for it too, sure!
Cool.... Any idea for stakes or we'll it be for funsys?
 
They do long lps all the time though. Human revloution, Zelda and Dark souls 3 are long ones they have done recently. Again, i maybe reading too much into it so we'll see
Iunno, I think a persona lp would be longer than any of those. At least if whoever would be on the controls plays anything like anyone I know.
 

Strimei

Member
That'll do, can't what to see another Aoki in the thread!

Hah, sounds good! I'll have to figure out what to give you in case I win :p

If they do end up LPing it, in any event, I'll probably be happy anyway. So long as I beat it before they do, I want to go in as blind as possible (which is already kinda difficult. I'm starting to ignore the new announcements as best I can). Which shouldn't be too hard what with how the LP format works and all.
 
A Persona LP would definitely be longer than a Dark Souls or Zelda LP, unless there's some heavy editing work. That might not be out of the question, though; Pat in particular seems to become more and more comfortable with the editing process as time goes on.

I think a properly-edited Persona LP could be pretty good.
 
Hah, sounds good! I'll have to figure out what to give you in case I win :p

If they do end up LPing it, in any event, I'll probably be happy anyway. So long as I beat it before they do, I want to go in as blind as possible (which is already kinda difficult. I'm starting to ignore the new announcements as best I can). Which shouldn't be too hard what with how the LP format works and all.
I really hope they don't do it. I don't know why, but the only LPs i can actually watch of them now are short ones, can't stick the long ones anymore.
 
Guess I'll watch this JoJo LP in 2020 when the anime is caught up.
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Squishy3

Member
Necessarily with Persona it won't necessarily be a really bad LP like say, Phantom Pain.

Granted, it could still be bad, but with the actual combat largely being unchanged from Persona 4, whoever is on controls (I'm assuming Pat will be) and the game also not needing large amounts of focus so they can talk during any of the dungeon bits, as well as the unvoiced social link stuff. Plus with the motto of Persona combat being "BUFF BUFF BUFF YO'SELF TIL YOU CAN'T BUFF YO'SELF NO MO'" and abusing enemy weaknesses, the games are kind of a cakewalk. Unless there's a boss like vanilla P4 Yukiko's shadow who just wrecks everybody's shit

It hopefully won't be like FFX where Matt and Woolie were staring at the combat options for minutes at a time.
 
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Yeeeaaah, Million's right, I wouldn't hold your breathe on getting anime adaptions of the seinen stuff, ever.

You know those big black censorship blotches? There aren't enough of them in the world for Steel Ball Run. They would need a completely different television carrier and timeslot, for a completely different audience, and probably a completely different animator (like Madhouse).

Negotiations for those "seasons", if they ever happen, are going to a completely separate deal from Parts 1-4. It's probably going to be manga or nothing, or at best, manga or god-awful anime adaptation (hi bearzerk).
 

Squishy3

Member
Yeeeaaah, Million's right, I wouldn't hold your breathe on getting anime adaptions of the seinen stuff, ever.

You know those big black censorship blotches? There aren't enough of them in the world for Steel Ball Run. They would need a completely different television carrier and timeslot, for a completely different audience, and probably a completely different animator (like Madhouse).

Negotiations for those "seasons", if they ever happen, are going to a completely separate deal from Parts 1-4. It's probably going to be manga or nothing, or at best, manga or god-awful anime adaptation (hi bearzerk).
Nah, David Pro is 100% adapting everything. They're clearly in the long haul for it now. The thing is just figuring out how to adapt something that was already longer pages per chapter-wise than it's predecessors and then also transitions to a monthly format in the middle of it.

Nothing in SBR is more "gross" than anything depicted in the previous parts as far as violence goes. And nudity? (Of which there's probably more of in Stone Ocean than SBR due to it taking place in a prison and SBR just having only the one scene that comes to mind) Wouldn't even matter when to pull a recent anime stuff like Masou Gakuen HxH airs at the exact time slot as JoJo's does and shares two of the same channels and is just one of those not-porn shows where the MC has a reason to touch girls to power them up.


If someone wants to get into reading the manga, do it after part 4 finishes. The part 5 retranslation will probably be finished by the time it ends, and the rest of the parts onwards all have good translations, and at the earliest the Part 5 anime would be starting in April of 2017, finishing at the end of 2017 if they keep up with the pacing they have for part 4, or ending in 2018 like Stardust Crusaders ended in 2015. Part 6 in 2018 if part 5 ended in 2017, 2019 if ending in 2018. And I can't even guess on how they'd handle SBR based on the sheer amount of pages.

Also it's a real crazy experience being up to date with a JoJo's part as the manga releases. Literally no clue what to expect. The last set of Jojolion chapters were so nuts.
 

Moaradin

Member
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Not while David Production is still making the anime. I see no reason to read it over watching it.

There was a brief period after Part 3 ended when I contemplated reading it, since I was stating to worry about if they were gonna do Part 4 or not, but they ended up doing it. If they ever come out and say they aren't doing the later parts then I'll definitely read it.
 
Also it's a real crazy experience being up to date with a JoJo's part as the manga releases. Literally no clue what to expect. The last set of Jojolion chapters were so nuts.

Dude, I know. Only something as insane as JoJo would make
finding a wallet
so existentially terrifying.
 
Not while David Production is still making the anime. I see no reason to read it over watching it.

There was a brief period after Part 3 ended when I contemplated reading it, since I was stating to worry about if they were gonna do Part 4 or not, but they ended up doing it. If they ever come out and say they aren't doing the later parts then I'll definitely read it.

The manga art is still incredible, and you don't have to wait 8 years to see part 7.
 
Eyes of Heaven LP sounds like a terrible terrible idea. Only Woolie is even qualified for all the Jojo spoilers. The game is just 100% Jojo spoilers, except part 8/Jojolion, that only just got a big revelation in the manga. I mean not long now until the next game (spoilers for Jojolion)
Josuke 2 is just called Josefumi, ruining one of the many mysteries of Jojolion though that isn't in the game as that revelation came just.

If you're not reading Jojo I just hope you don't get it spoiled for you. There is a lot of good Jojo manga to read.
 

Matsukaze

Member
There's also the problem of dealing with bad translations
Part 5 is the only part with poor translations, and half of it has been revisited by other groups who have produced high-quality translations.

Eyes of Heaven LP sounds like a terrible terrible idea. Only Woolie is even qualified for all the Jojo spoilers. The game is just 100% Jojo spoilers, except part 8/Jojolion, that only just got a big revelation in the manga. I mean not long now until the next game (spoilers for Jojolion)
Josuke 2 is just called Josefumi, ruining one of the many mysteries of Jojolion though that isn't in the game as that revelation came just.

If you're not reading Jojo I just hope you don't get it spoiled for you. There is a lot of good Jojo manga to read.
Yeah, I don't expect much from the EoH LP. Pat will do that Pat thing where he states incorrect information as fact and Woolie will subsequently become distracted correcting him. So shall it ever be lol.
 
Eyes of Heaven LP sounds like a terrible terrible idea. Only Woolie is even qualified for all the Jojo spoilers. The game is just 100% Jojo spoilers, except part 8/Jojolion, that only just got a big revelation in the manga. I mean not long now until the next game (spoilers for Jojolion)
Josuke 2 is just called Josefumi, ruining one of the many mysteries of Jojolion though that isn't in the game as that revelation came just.

If you're not reading Jojo I just hope you don't get it spoiled for you. There is a lot of good Jojo manga to read.

Josuke 8 is still going to be Josuke 8. They have as much reason to call him Josefumi as they do to call him Yoshikage Kira

No one not up to date should click my spoiler
 

Squishy3

Member
There's also the problem of dealing with bad translations
The part 5 retranslation will be totally finished by the time the Part 4 anime ends at the pace it's currently being released in. If you're going to read the manga, wait until the Part 4 anime ends and then start Part 5.

The only 2 parts that even got bad translations were 4 and 5. And even 4's bad translation isn't that bad compared to 5's. Sure, it's got terrible english and flat out wrong words, but it still completely gets across the intent, while Part 5's old translation fails even at that.

Have a completely out of context image of someone yelling about spoken languages.


pray tell, why would an italian man... in italy... be yelling at someone to speak french
 
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