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[MIMIC]

I've been caught-up in the memo controversy.

DALLAS - New documents critical of President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard are fake, although they accurately reflect the thoughts of one of Bush's commanders and were likely based on notes he kept in a personal file, according to a former secretary.

Marian Carr Knox worked from 1956 to 1979 at what then was Ellington Air Force Base in Houston, where Bush was stationed in the 1970s as a pilot.

[...]

"The information in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones," Knox said as she looked at the memos.

Knox said she remembered "vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it."

She speculated the memos may have been constructed from memory by someone who had seen Killian's private file but were not transcriptions, noting the language and terminology didn't match what he would have used. She said some of the terms used reflect someone with an Army background rather than someone with the Air National Guard.

Star-Telegram/AP

Apparently, the memos themselves are forgeries, but the info is correct.

 

[Willco]

Let me say it before some douche and his douche friends say it a thousand times:

WHATEVER MAN WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DEAD PEOPLE IN IRAQ LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES BECAUSE THIS IS BULLSHIT I'M GOING TO WATCH THE APPRENTICE NOW.

 

[MIMIC]

Let me say it before some douche and his douche friends say it a thousand times:

WHATEVER MAN WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DEAD PEOPLE IN IRAQ LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES BECAUSE THIS IS BULLSHIT I'M GOING TO WATCH THE APPRENTICE NOW.

I totally agree. I would rather both Bush and Kerry's service record remain in the past, but you can't ignore the news-making topics.

 

[Drinky Crow]

Well, I'm suspicious of ANYTHING related to those memos now, but it WOULD explain why the White House had no comment on them.

 

[MIMIC]

Well, I'm suspicious of ANYTHING related to those memos now, but it WOULD explain why the White House had no comment on them.

Exactly. They didn't at any point dispute the authenticity of the information.

 

[Willco]

Well, I'm suspicious of ANYTHING related to those memos now, but it WOULD explain why the White House had no comment on them.

Are you suspicious because that dude from Catch Me If You Can and Tom Hanks said they were fakes? Or because of that douche on the swift boat?

I say we make the swift boats and the fake memos a wash and let Bush and Kerry fight for our admiration IN THE...

 

[Ripclawe]

Well, wait a minute.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/nation/2796630

A former secretary at Ellington Air Force Base is challenging the legitimacy of documents used to discredit President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, saying the records are probably fake because she never typed them.

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Marian Carr Knox, 86, former secretary to Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, worked at the Houston air base from 1956 to 1979. She is now retired.

"They're forgeries as far as I'm concerned because I didn't type them," Knox said Tuesday at her southwest Houston home.

...Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others.

So why did her story change this week?

 

[Meier]

I would be very curious to know Ms. Knox's voting history and/or political affiliation.

 

[MetatronM]

Well, wait a minute.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/nation/2796630






So why did her story change this week?

Same reason why all the swift boat veterans changed all their stories about John Kerry. Agendas.

I hate what the political environment in this country has become. For all the post-election shenanigans, I don't remember 2000 being this ugly, this unsavory, and this universally despicable of a campaign before November. Everybody from both sides of the fence is just throwing out ridiculous and absurd statements and arguments left and right, nobody is taking responsibility for anybody's actions, and nobody holds a real opinion or position on anything anymore.

I just hate the way we go about this business now. The people aren't being educated both in regards to the candidates and to the realities of the world they live in. If it isn't a sound bite, then the people aren't going to get the message. And it doesn't matter if the message in the sound bite is true or not, because nobody is willing to take any responsibility, so you can say anything you damn well please and then pass it off like nothing. The people don't know what they're really voting for and why, and the whole election and campaign is ostensibly hijacked by interest groups, corporations, individuals with large amounts of excess wealth, and individuals on a crusading agenda.

In short, this system flat out blows, and we need to clean this shit up...........again.

 

[Makura]

she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others

Is such a thing really that bad? I know some colleges give you props if a family member is an alumni. What is the big deal? I mean, Goerge H. W. Bush was a WWII hero, why WOULDN"T that raise his son's standing in the military's eyes? All this "fortunate son" stuff sounds horribly desperate to me.

 

[Makura]

:lol Funniest headline ever IMO:

Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate, Typist Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/politics/campaign/15guard.html

So....we're right back where we started, no proof, just one persons word (Knox) against anothers (Killian's son).

 

[MIMIC]

:lol Funniest headline ever IMO:

Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate, Typist Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/politics/campaign/15guard.html

So....we're right back where we started, no proof, just one persons word (Knox) against anothers (Killian's son).

Who cares about Killian's son? He had nothing to do with the memos.

 

[MIMIC]

Well, wait a minute.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/nation/2796630






So why did her story change this week?

The Houston Chronicle is the only publication that I can find that says that.

The first time they even mention Knox is on the 14th. Makes me doubt their "last week" claim. Also, I can find no other publication that even mentions her before yesterday.