Sega Dreamcast 2

The only way a Dreamcast 2 could ever be released is if a company like Apple, Amazon, Samsung, etc want to get into gaming, and collab with Sega since they're already known in the gaming industry. As is, Sega has no money to do shiet.
 
Sega released the Dreamcast when the company was at its weakest. Now that Sega is rich than ever, according to the haters, the most it can do is produce some mini crap. At least it's better to read this nonsense than to go blind.
 
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Walliwallipaloo said:
Not a fan of the Steam Deck, are you? Fair enough. I'm not sure I am either. It goes back and forth quite a bit.
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I think the Deck is cool although I don't have one. I mean if I was going to get a handheld PC it would probably be a Deck. I just acquiesced to using a gaming laptop because well, Switch 2 happened while waiting for Deck ver 2 to happen.

That's kinda the point though, I got a Switch 2 because it has support. Steam Deck doesn't "have support", it's a PC. You might as well say "the ROG Ally has been getting lots of support. This bodes well for the future of a handheld Dreamcast 2". What does that even mean?
 
BlackTron said:
I think the Deck is cool although I don't have one. I mean if I was going to get a handheld PC it would probably be a Deck. I just acquiesced to using a gaming laptop because well, Switch 2 happened while waiting for Deck ver 2 to happen.

That's kinda the point though, I got a Switch 2 because it has support. Steam Deck doesn't "have support", it's a PC. You might as well say "the ROG Ally has been getting lots of support. This bodes well for the future of a handheld Dreamcast 2". What does that even mean?
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Yes. It has support in the sense that developers go out of their way to ensure compatibility with the Steam Deck. Hence the "Verified" status. Because the Steam Deck is popular. This isn't rocket science. This is basically known by everyone by now.

What about this boggles you?

Handheld Linux-based (or SteamOS-based, to be more specific) gaming PCs are a point of interest for developers to work with because of the Steam Deck's established userbase. Hence, support. It is actively considered by many developers.

Also, to be perfectly clear, I do not think my pipe dream is feasible. It is simply what I want to happen. For fun.
 
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Elfstar said:
I want to ask people who still are obsessed with the "Time for Dreamcast 2!!!" nonsense to turn their brain on: how do you even imagine a world where a new Sega console could work when even Microsoft with its infinite money warchest is retreating with its tail between their legs?

What kind of library you think it would have? Exclusive Sonic, Yakuza and Persona games (five milion sellers at their best at 5/10 usd sales)? Reboots of their old ips that are worth basically nothing nowadays? New series? Shenmue 4?
The Sega people beloved was the one based around arcade gameplay filosofies, and that shit was unfortunally dead and buried already in the early 2000s.
You really want the new console to be another Playstation/Xbox clone with games that would be nothing like the ones we used to like? Just because you like the brand?

But again I realize I must be talking with some of those "please MS buy Sega" retards, the dumbest motherfuckers on planet earth.
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*Philosophies
 
Knucklepux said:
Just a conversation, but the Dreamcast was definitely ahead of its time

With it looking likely that hardware will no longer be subsidized, would Sega ever make a run at a Sega Dreamcast 2?

Give us Blue Stinger 2 you cowards!
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There's definitely a higher than 0% chance Sega makes another console to compete with Sony and Nintendo.

Less than .000000001, but higher than zero!
 
Sooner said:
There's definitely a higher than 0% chance Sega makes another console to compete with Sony and Nintendo.

Less than .000000001, but higher than zero!
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Ill Be Back Jim Carrey GIF
 
If they did re-enter the market, is there any logical path for them to stop releasing their games on Sony and Nintendo consoles, allowing they (Sega) to use them as exclusives (a reason to buy their console)? I'm not sure that can be done and in the age when even Sony seems to be considering (and is) releasing some of their games on the Xbox, it seems like everyone is trying to maximize profit by releasing games to a more broad audience.

I'm starting to believe this is going to happen and I will be there day one. The industry needs it. Everyone loves competition but Nintendo is not going to engage Sony in direct competition. Nintendo is playing their own game. Sega will be back to fill the void of a direct competitor to Playstation that Xbox used to occupy. Sega isn't an American company like MS/Xbox. I'm not sure how much you all know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert) but they value honor and legacy. They aren't like Xbox who decided to not use their vast franchises and IP to compete with Playstation but to instead support the Playstation by releasing their in-house titles on their machine. No, Sega is different. Out of necessity for survival they accepted their fate as being a 3rd party publisher but they never forgot the loss they experienced at the hands of the Playstation brand. They have developed a more impressive array of franchises and titles than Playstation has. Xbox has silently quit. Sega knows the time is now to continue the fight and retake their rightful place in the videogame industry as a console manufacturer. This is the difference between Japanese culture and American culture. One is about honor, determination and vengeance. The other is consumed with simply chasing money.

"Reviving Sega will be the greatest achievement in my career."

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The business restructuring Sega would have to do to come out with a console would be a massive undertaking. They would have to cut third parties ties (having a console and giving your games out to other consoles at the same time is not going to work, sorry Xbox).

Also they would be asking fans who play their games on existing consoles to abandon those consoles to continue playing franchises on the Sega system exclusively. I think the fanbase is not strong enough for those to make that shift. I don't know if Persona, Yakuza, and Sonic are enough of a draw to ask those existing players to be loyal to a new Sega console.

Sega seems to be getting back to relevance but never will strong enough to enter hardware again. And the market at this point does not need a third player. Sony and Nintendo have it covered.
 
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Not being funny or anything but if Sega did come back they wouldn't name it after Dreamcast.
That's like Nintendo coming out with the Wii U 2.
And Sega Genesis II has already been used.
 
If Dreamcast 2 sells one million units, then I am one of them. If Dreamcast 2 sells ten units, then I am one of them. If Dreamcast 2 has sold only one unit then that is me. If Dreamcast 2 sold no units, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Dreamcast 2, then I am against the world.
 
You're just like a flock of death birds, moving from one Nintendo rival to another, sinking whatever system you get in under the light weight of not being too many. When Sega died you (and a couple of excel fans, I guess) flock to the OG Xbox and the faction was kept alive with the good will that the hits of the 360 left in the public. Once they wore out it was the same 5 UK Resistance readers all over again, only this time Microsoft believed so much in itself that became 10 times bigger than Nintendo only to find they don't even have half their user base.
 
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Sorcerer said:
The business restructuring Sega would have to do to come out with a console would be a massive undertaking. They would have to cut third parties ties (having a console and giving your games out to other consoles at the same time is not going to work, sorry Xbox).
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I would do it but not abruptly, I would allow Atlus and the PC franchises to continue as third party, losing that source is not a good idea.
Sorcerer said:
Also they would be asking fans who play their games on existing consoles to abandon those consoles to continue playing franchises on the Sega system exclusively. I think the fanbase is not strong enough for those to make that shift.
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People dance to the rhythm, I believe that a good marketing campaign is enough to attract the core.
Pallas said:
If they ever did decide to hop back into console manufacturing, they have a stronger portfolio of IP's then they previously had.
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you're right, they have never been as strong before as they are now.
 
TGO said:
Not being funny or anything but if Sega did come back they wouldn't name it after Dreamcast.
That's like Nintendo coming out with the Wii U 2.
And Sega Genesis II has already been used.
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They would call it The Sega Messiah as a true successor to the Genesis, keeping it in a biblical naming convention and all that.
 
HerjansEagleFeeder said:
I think if they were to do it, they should go with the Wii model (the original one). Stationary console with upscaling from 720p or 1080p internal render, cheap hardware. Try to appeal to casuals, families, younger audiences. Basically exploit Nintendos current situation. Braindead Nintendo drones don't see it, but there's some weakpoints in their current strategy. Sell the new Sega console for 299 or 399, make all the Sega games exclusive. Free online.
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I'm not sure you can sell a console to casuals and younger audiences anymore. Most game on phones and tablets which is why the Switch was so successful.

Sonic is popular again with the success of the movies, but it's no where near the level of the 90s when world wide more people recognized and knew Sonic than Mickey Mouse.

We are almost at 19 years since the release of the Wii. So many people who played it as kids now have kids of their own. But I'm not sure a straight update would just work. It needs some type of hook like the wiimote motion controls. And I"m not sure what Sega could come up with. Maybe in a few years if things swing back and people start wanting to socialize in person again, a low cost $199-299 console that focuses on wacky same room multiplayer arcade experiences could work. It wouldn't be something for all future Sega games, more a device to use rather than pulling out a board game. Hell go with the Arcade 1Up Infinity Table format and it could be priced more. It's not a console but a piece of furniture everyone plays with together. If it not an entire coffee table, at least a large screen topper.
 
The Dreamcast 2 with exclusives like:
-Sonic who has no good games
-Nights into dreams which doesn't hold the test of time
-Crazy taxi which wouldn't even work as a F2P title in 2025

It's gonna be hype!
 
Microsoft could not keep the Xbox alive and they are the richest company on earth and you want Sega to
succeed?
Please pass whatever it is that you are smoking.
 
SEGA has like 1/100th cash that MS does and look at xbox situation. Most of the franchises are nostalgia goggles, I def wouldnt be paying $70 for a new Crazy taxi. Most of their output back in the day were games from Arcades, turned to home consoles. Nowadays all they can do is make 400 sequels and spinoffs to Yakuza games which are fun but theres nothing there to carry a new console name.
 
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Geometric-Crusher said:
I wasn't alive during the 1929 crash either, I don't know what your point is here.
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Sega was as their strongest during the Genesis which would have been obvious if you were alive then. You regularly embarrass yourself repeating what some other kid on Youtube paraded as fact to impressionable chumps, then treat us like idiots or haters when we don't file into lockstep with it.

This was already known but this time you'd have to ignore the entire post to dodge the question which was intentional lol.

There are certainly many people on the net who talk about the Great Depression with authority while it's obvious they have no idea what it was really like. This is the camp you fall into. The Sega posts are getting tiring from a source like that man.
 
I should clarify here I am not a "hater". In 1999 I even strained a friendship arguing over DC vs PS2. I remember vividly the way it went, Me: laundry list of good arguments for DC. Him: I have no idea man, I just know PS2 will be better. Me: AHHHH

Fast forward to today. It's not that I don't want a Sega console. That's my dream. I wish they never left. Had they never left, maybe Sonic Team would never have started making games in Renderware. Who knows where we'd be. But this is our timeline, and in the one we're in, Sega is successful as a third party, not in hardware. This idea of them coming back with a system are the dreams of kids who don't understand the real scope, consequences or history. In other words, experience.
 
Ozzie666 said:
They were never successful and poorly managed outside of the UK. Sega success was a mirage, how many times do we need to discuss this.

OG XBOX was bascially a successor to the dreamcast..
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Genesis/Megadrive: up to 65% market share, beating Nintendo 4 holiday season in a row in the US, 40+ million consoles sold in the 90s. Before this console, Nintendo had allost 95% market share

That is a nice "mirage" to have.

And no, stop with that "Xbox was DC2" nonsense, they just bought exclusivity deals for games that were supposed to releaseh on the DC, that is all (Nintendo and Sony did the same btw - look at Sonic, Ecco, Eternal Arcadia etc..)
And yes, I loved the OG Xbox, mainly for these Sega games, so it is not me hating on it.

And to go back on topic, I would love a new Sega hardware, but it is never going to happen.
 
everything is impossible until the day it happens
So when it happens the conversation will change, it will be ''I knew their return was the natural path'' or ''they came back but it won't sell well''
your tears will quench the thirst of even the Bedouins of the Sahel :messenger_grinning_smiling:
let's let time speak for itself
 
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Geometric-Crusher said:
everything is impossible until the day it happens
So when it happens the conversation will change, it will be ''I knew their return was the natural path'' or ''they came back but it won't sell well''
your tears will quench the thirst of even the Bedouins of the Sahel :messenger_grinning_smiling:
let's let time speak for itself
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Right, everything is impossible until it happens. Like Sonic on a Nintendo. In 1993, it may as well have been Windows on Mac. Totally unthinkable in the rules of war as the knew them.

Sonic has made great strides since the brand got hurt, but he will never be as important in gaming as he was in the early 90s, when the exclusivity of Sonic could catapult a system to success. Oh wait, you think they should keep games on PC...so really just do what PS5 is doing, another console I never bothered buying, because I have a PC.

You're right that things are different now. In the 90s/early 2000s, had Sega played every card just right, they could have been a hardware success. Now that everything is different, they can't. There is no way, barring a development or miracle that none of us could foresee (example, disruption like Wii Remote).
 
cireza said:
Right. It's just that a lot of people referred to SEGA consoles as a SEGA back then. I don't think the mass market really new the full names like MegaDrive or Master System.
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I'm stuck between calling it SEGA for practicality and Mega Genesis to trigger half the forum
 
BlackTron said:
Sega was as their strongest during the Genesis which would have been obvious if you were alive then. You regularly embarrass yourself repeating what some other kid on Youtube paraded as fact to impressionable chumps, then treat us like idiots or haters when we don't file into lockstep with it.

This was already known but this time you'd have to ignore the entire post to dodge the question which was intentional lol.

There are certainly many people on the net who talk about the Great Depression with authority while it's obvious they have no idea what it was really like. This is the camp you fall into. The Sega posts are getting tiring from a source like that man.
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He's a PlayStation troll

I don't know why you even give the time of day
 
PanzerCute said:
Genesis/Megadrive: up to 65% market share, beating Nintendo 4 holiday season in a row in the US, 40+ million consoles sold in the 90s. Before this console, Nintendo had allost 95% market share

That is a nice "mirage" to have.

And no, stop with that "Xbox was DC2" nonsense, they just bought exclusivity deals for games that were supposed to releaseh on the DC, that is all (Nintendo and Sony did the same btw - look at Sonic, Ecco, Eternal Arcadia etc..)
And yes, I loved the OG Xbox, mainly for these Sega games, so it is not me hating on it.

And to go back on topic, I would love a new Sega hardware, but it is never going to happen.
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It's never to going to happen, correct.
Looking at it from Sega's point of view, why would they stop selling games on three consoles and pc, go through the hell and cash burning of making and marketing new hardware, only to sell software for that one console. It makes no sense. They would be in the red for at least a decade (assuming they were successful) before becoming profitable. And buy that time they would have had to start thinking about making another round of hardware.
Why not just stay safe where they are just making software for three systems and pc and not put themselves into financial hell?
Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft (not because the games division at Microsoft is profitable, but because daddy gives them an allowance to keep making mistakes LOL) have the money and power to sustain these kinds of cycles. Sega probably does not have enough in the bank to get a console cycle started without risking putting themselves out of business.
 
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