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Sekiro will run at 60fps on PS5 via a Patch Update

sircaw said:
Using Xbox as a reference point, on how ps5 should do, that sounds just wrong or half baked in thought.

These surely are completely different machines and with potentially a large difference in variables.
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We'll see :) using Xbox as a reference point for a game which has wavering FPS on both PS4 and Xbox One is perfectly justified IMO. The machines aren't that different considering the hardware involved.

Still, it would be amazing if Sony would deliver a better, more optimized version of BC compared to Xbox. I'm rooting for ya, since I'm getting a PS5 (not a Series X at launch) and would love to play Sekiro 100% steady. But.. chances are VERY slim I think.
 
Gudji said:
Because PS5 GPU frequency is 2.23 GHz while running on the exact same setup as PS4 PRO (36 CUs). AFAIK and from what I've watched on DF videos the XSX does not utilize the full power of the GPU, that's why it doesn't hit 60 FPS on some games with unlocked frame rate.
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Thats not really true, MS have said it used all the GPU 12 TF if you google it.

What XSX is not using is any RDNA2 new OPTIONAL features like VRS or mesh shaders or SFS for blending in pop in (but it will have PRT+ as thats a current gen feature writeback).
 
Danjin44 said:
I would say the parry mechanics in Sekiro is much more generous and easy to pull off compare to other games.

Honesty Bayonetta's parry was much difficult to pull off compare to Sekiro in my opinion.
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Statistically though, how many people succeded to finish Bayonetta, and how many, to finish Sekiro?

Somehow, i agree with you on the Sekiro's parry time window but also being generous, is a fact that 30 fps and the bad frame pacing, are a big minus in a game of this kind and they just ruine the party...
 
geordiemp said:
Thats not really true, MS have said it used all the GPU 12 TF if you google it.

What XSX is not using is any RDNA2 new OPTIONAL features like VRS or mesh shaders or SFS for blending in pop in (but it will have PRT+ as thats a current gen feature writeback).
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You're right, my bad I'll correct the post. Still think the boost on PS5 will probably improve games a lot assuming the code can handle it.
 
Anki said:
Thats a good news and a bad news. Good news, sekiro will run at 60fps after the update, bad news, ps5 cannot run unlocked game at 60fps which means the bc is rubbish. I hope i am wrong.
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How do you know that? The game does not run at locked 60fps on XSX through BC, that we have seen. On the flip, we have seen nothing of PS5 BC. As for the patches, I like that most ps4 games are being patched. Look at all these PS4 games that are getting enhancements on the last gen console, so PS4 owners benefit too and the BC on PS5 can be even more enhanced. So I'm sure Sekiro got a patch that does more than just 60fps, but also increases loadtimes significantly, improves textures and texture filtering and improves resolution.
 
T-Barbs said:
Statistically though, how many people succeded to finish Bayonetta, and how many, to finish Sekiro?
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Well Bayonetta has multiple difficulty but that game's Climax difficulty is much tougher than Sekiro.

But I was mostly talking about parry system. In Sekiro is one button but in Bayonetta you have to move your analog stick towards the enemy when they are about to land a hit which to me its tougher to pull off consistently.
 
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There are people in this thread absolutely delighting in the fact that Sekiro has some framerate drops on an unpatched Series X version. "ah, best throw in the towel Microsoft". It's pathetic.

Especially when compared to a theoretical maximum on a patched PS5 version.

Some of you never learn. Every little win, no matter how imagined, needs to be turned up to 11. Because, ya know, it seems unlikely a performance patch will be PS5 exclusive, if it does more than the Series X can unpatched.

Isn't it enough that Sekiro runs and runs well on these devices?
 
So many people concerned about a game getting enhanced through a patch......Do you know a developer can do more to enhance a game through a patch than whatever happens through BC.....Removing framerate caps easy, enhancing textures and filtering easy, providing the ultimate settings on games easy, increasing the resolution, maybe removing checkerboard rendering, improving the dynamic resolution range or allowing 1440p 60fps locked and 4k 60fps with slight dips. They can do much more and do it much faster than MS's BC team.


As for boosting. PS5 can boost Sekiro to 60fps easily, it was already a much steadier game on PRO than XBONEX. The thing is in some titles Sony wants to give you more based on the popularity and standing of a particular game......You will find that most of the big gun games will get a patch for even better enhancements than BC can provide.......
 
Mmnow said:
There are people in this thread absolutely delighting in the fact that Sekiro has some framerate drops on an unpatched Series X version. "ah, best throw in the towel Microsoft". It's pathetic.

Especially when compared to a theoretical maximum on a patched PS5 version.

Some of you never learn. Every little win, no matter how imagined, needs to be turned up to 11. Because, ya know, it seems unlikely a performance patch will be PS5 exclusive, if it does more than the Series X can unpatched.

Isn't it enough that Sekiro runs and runs well on these devices?
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Both versions (PS4/XBO) of sekiro will be updated, why wouldn't it? Makes no sense to just release an update to one console. Unless sony paid for it obviously.
 
Gudji said:
Both versions (PS4/XBO) of sekiro will be updated, why wouldn't it? Makes no sense to just release an update to one console. Unless sony paid for it obviously.
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Thats what I'm saying. If the patch locks it at 60, that same patch is coming to Xbox.
 
Bankai said:
I think that because Xbox Series X BC shows that it didn't hit a consistent 60fps (even timestamped it for you):




PS5 isn't more powerful GPU-wise than the Series X, so why would BC on PS5 suddenly deliver 60fps steady?
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but doesnt the PS4 Pro version have a lower resolution? so it should make it easier to reach 60fps on PS5
 
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geordiemp said:
They were telling you your ps4 game save would work if you actually read it, and play god war at 60 FPS now.

Sony have patched God of War, I am sure it will be explained soon what changes have been made for ps5.
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Clearly says "up to 60 fps" while talking about Ps5. Always so disingenuous with the bs you post. But nice try downplaying the tweet from ssm themselves.
 
Concern said:


Clearly says "up to 60 fps" while talking about Ps5. Always so disingenuous with the bs you post. But nice try downplaying the tweet from ssm themselves.
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Sony always say upto, and the usual ad hominem from the mentally challenged who cant keep it civil due to deficiencies.

Come comment on AMD when we see what RDNA2 is, should be fun. You can use your up to word then.
 
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geordiemp said:
Sony always say upto, and the usual ad hominem from the mentally challenged who cant keep it civil due to deficiencies.

Come comment on AMD when we see what RDNA2 is, should be fun. You can use your up to word then.
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>Ad hominem
>Mentally challenged.

Sometimes I swear you're a parody account.
 
geordiemp said:
Sony always say upto, and the usual ad hominem from the mentally challenged who cant keep it civil due to deficiencies.

Come comment on AMD when we see what RDNA2 is, should be fun. You can use your up to word then.
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You literally said it was about Ps4. Trying to deflect what was actually said. Only one projecting with insults is you. Not my fault you can't stop making disingenuous post.
 
Mmnow said:
>Ad hominem
>Mentally challenged.

Sometimes I swear you're a parody account.
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Keep it civil, it costs nothing to discuss the points without insults, which just shows the posters are struiggling to discsus the point at hand.

Concern said:
You literally said it was about Ps4. Trying to deflect what was actually said. Only one projecting with insults is you. Not my fault you can't stop making disingenuous post.
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I am sorry that you have little XSX games to discuss so you have to concern in every ps5 thread and worry about words like up to. If thats your interest, thats up to you, I am sure other posters look at your posts and just sigh..

I have never seen you add anything intereresting or smart to the conversation, its boring, so I will mute you.
 
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Concern said:


Clearly says "up to 60 fps" while talking about Ps5. Always so disingenuous with the bs you post. But nice try downplaying the tweet from ssm themselves.
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The game already ran up to 60 on PS4 PRO. The only news on that tweet is about the saves, which no one knew if those were supported since it's decided by the developers themselves.
 
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geordiemp said:
Keep it civil, it costs nothing to discuss the points without insults, which just shows the posters are struiggling to discsus the point at hand.



I am sorry that you have little XSX games to discuss so you have to concern in every ps5 thread and worry about words like up to. If thats your interest, thats up to you, I am sure other posters look at your posts and just sigh..

I have never seen you add anything intereresting or smart to the conversation, its boring, so I will mute you.
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Again deflecting. Nobody is talking about Xbox here. Yea because "smart" in your head means 10 > 12 but keep on truckin with you disingenuous posts lol.
 
geordiemp said:
Keep it civil, it costs nothing to discuss the points without insults, which just shows the posters are struiggling to discsus the point at hand.



I am sorry that you have little XSX games to discuss so you have to concern in every ps5 thread and worry about words like up to. If thats your interest, thats up to you, I am sure other posters look at your posts and just sigh..

I have never seen you add anything intereresting or smart to the conversation, its boring, so I will mute you.
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Where's the civility in calling someone mentally challenged?

While we're at it, where's the civility in exaggerating Sekiro s framerate issues on an unpatched Xbox to score points for PS5?

I agree with you that some civility is desperately needed on these forums right now, but since you're one of the main culprits, be the change you want to see, dude.
 
Mmnow said:
Where's the civility in calling someone mentally challenged?

While we're at it, where's the civility in exaggerating Sekiro s framerate issues on an unpatched Xbox to score points for PS5?

I agree with you that some civility is desperately needed on these forums right now, but since you're one of the main culprits, be the change you want to see, dude.
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I callled all posters challenged who do not keep it civil, I did not call him anything directly.

Back on topic, what have you got to contribute to the thread about ps5 patch for Sekiro at 60 FPS ?

My XSX reference was in reply to a poster who brought up XSX, I did not.

As I have not played Sekiro yet, due to the poor last gen performance for this type of game that really benefits from 60 FPS, its up there for me as a buy. I look forward to see how it runs on ps5 for sure.
 
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Riky said:
Have any PS4 games been confirmed to run at 120fps like Halo MCC and Gears 5 on XSX yet?
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Almost nothing of PS5 BC has been confirmed other than "99% of PS4 games will be compatible"

The original tweet by Lance specified PS5 will use a patch to reach 60fps in Sekiro, but XsX will reach this without a patch.
The clear implication here is that PS5 isn't hitting this target, despite emulating lower resolution targets, through brute force alone.

That's not, obviously, because PS5 isn't strong enough but because it's BC is clearly attempting to emulate PS4Pro hardware rather than throwing it's full GPU power at the game as XsX does.

As someone noted earlier, however, this is conjecture/speculation. But that's all anyone really has until PS5 BC can be tested unpatched.

Concern said:
Again deflecting. Nobody is talking about Xbox here. Yea because "smart" in your head means 10 > 12 but keep on truckin with you disingenuous posts lol.
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It's a common Geordiemp tactic. Enter a thread specifically about PS5 and start whataboutery on Xbox until the original topic is lost. It's deliberate.
 
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Concern said:
"Sony have patched God of War, I am sure it will be explained soon what changes have been made for ps5."

It literally talking about ps4 saves and perfomode being up to 60fps on ps5 lol.

I know geordie needs all the help he can get.
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They were telling you your ps4 game save would work if you actually read it, and play god war at 60 FPS now.
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What about that was wrong?
 
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geordiemp said:
Sony always say upto, and the usual ad hominem from the mentally challenged who cant keep it civil due to deficiencies.

Come comment on AMD when we see what RDNA2 is, should be fun. You can use your up to word then.
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I have noticed you keep constantly talking about this AMD show thing, often in responce to someone talking in a positive way about XSX. Is there something we will find out today or something?, something console related, PS5 but not XSX related?.
I'm a bit confused on this.
 
Stuart360 said:
I have noticed you keep constantly talking about this AMD show thing, often in responce to someone talking in a positive way about XSX. Is there something we will find out today or something?, something console related, PS5 but not XSX related?.
I'm a bit confused on this.
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We will all find out what PC RDNA2 is, and how that differs for consoles. PC will have some things neither console has.

Big L2 cache, Shared L1 cache, IPC gains from caches, how you need little memory bandwidth for 20 TF, how they get to 2.5 Ghz. the big hitters for RDNA2 performance.

Its interesting to see what consioles managed to get out of that. RDNA2 performance is not about mesh shaders and VRS or Geometry engines thats just back end stuff.

This is the shader performance discusison, the meat and potatoes, it will be interesting, and AMD have kept a tight ship nobody knows the details. Should be fun and the power discssions will be allot more interesting. :messenger_beaming:
 
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geordiemp said:
We will all find out what PC RDNA2 is, and how that differs for consoles. PC will have some things neither console has.

Big L2 cache, Shared L1 cache, IPC gains from caches, how you need little memory bandwidth for 20 TF, how they get to 2.5 Ghz. the big hitters for RDNA2 performance.

Its interesting to see what consioles managed to get out of that. RDNA2 performance is not about mesh shaders and VRS or Geometry engines thats just back end stuff.

This is the shader performance discusison, the meat and potatoes, it will be interesting, and AMD have kept a tight ship nobody knows the details. Should be fun,
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No all thats cool, i just dont understand why you seem to use it as a defence mechanism in responce to Xbox fans. Is there something you think we will find out?
 
Stuart360 said:
I have noticed you keep constantly talking about this AMD show thing, often in responce to someone talking in a positive way about XSX. Is there something we will find out today or something?, something console related, PS5 but not XSX related?.
I'm a bit confused on this.
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Post history is self explanatory. Only Ps5 will reap the benefits of everything amd does. And remember Ps5 is equal to a 3080.

As for the boost mode topic. Its ridiculous how there's only one road to ps5 video and like 30 different takes on what it all means.

Boost patches being required are not something im excited about considered games like bloodborne never got a pro patch.
 
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Stuart360 said:
No all thats cool, i just dont understand why you seem to use it as a defence mechanism in responce to Xbox fans. Is there something you think we will find out?
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Its nota defense mechanism, its a simple fact I believe this will be the new topic of discssion for the next week on all performance and power discussions.

I have my own theories, but they are mine as I am interpretuing leaks so will be claimed as FUD anyway.

For sure PC vs XSX will be easier comparison, ps5 is more a mystery all we know is the gPU clock and some cache optimisations....... Not long now anyway.
 
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geordiemp said:
I callled all posters challenged who do not keep it civil, I did not call him anything directly.

Back on topic, what have you got to contribute to the thread about ps5 patch for Sekiro at 60 FPS ?

My XSX reference was in reply to a poster who brought up XSX, I did not.

As I have not played Sekiro yet, due to the poor last gen performance for this type of game that really benefits from 60 FPS, its up there for me as a buy. I look forward to see how it runs on ps5 for sure.
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You can't call for civility while calling people mentally challenged. You can't call for civility while doing everything you can to shit on Xbox, to the point where you'll outright lie and exaggerate to get the win.

You can try and act the bigger man all you want but, and I'm gonna outright say it, you're one of the biggest console warriors on here. The place would be better without you, and that's going to become more true as we get to launch and beyond.

And that doesn't mean I want to see you banned. I just want you to start living up to your own call of civility.

My contribution to this thread, BTW, is above, and I'm sorry you missed it because it was directly aimed at people like you.
 
Mmnow said:
You can't call for civility while calling people mentally challenged. You can't call for civility while doing everything you can to shit on Xbox, to the point where you'll outright lie and exaggerate to get the win.

You can try and act the bigger man all you want but, and I'm gonna outright say it, you're one of the biggest console warriors on here. The place would be better without you, and that's going to become more true as we get to launch and beyond.

And that doesn't mean I want to see you banned. I just want you to start living up to your own call of civility.

My contribution to this thread, BTW, is above, and I'm sorry you missed it because it was directly aimed at people like you.
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I have noticed a few xbox fans personally arguing with me, its called baiting. I will ignore you as well. nothing is lost.
 
geordiemp said:
Its nota defense mechanism, its a simple fact I believe this will be the new topic of discssion for the next week on all performance and power discussions.

I have my own theories, but they are mine as I am interpretuing leaks so will be claimed as FUD anyway.

For sure PC vs XSX will be easier comparison, ps5 is more a mystery all we know is the gPU clock and some cache optimisations....... Not long now anyway.
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So you think they will be talking about the consoles as well?. Do you want to share what you think might be said that will have us talking about this for the next week?, or as you said in another thread 'the war starts'?
 
Anki said:
Thats a good news and a bad news. Good news, sekiro will run at 60fps after the update, bad news, ps5 cannot run unlocked game at 60fps which means the bc is rubbish. I hope i am wrong.
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As far as I know the game doent offer an unlocked framerate mode on ps4/pro
 
Danjin44 said:
Well Bayonetta has multiple difficulty but that game's Climax difficulty is much tougher than Sekiro.

But I was mostly talking about parry system. In Sekiro is one button but in Bayonetta you have to move your analog stick towards the enemy when they are about to land a hit which to me its tougher to pull off consistently.
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I respect your point of view but to be fair, i remember finishing Bayonetta on my 360 several years ago and it was a walk in the park.

Sekiro instead, also reading people's comments, seems a real tour de force to complete.

I am not even sure if you are serious when comparing 2 games that despite being action oriented, are so different from each other in many ways...

In my initial comment, i just wanted to express my happyness for the upcoming patch and underline, how a game like Sekiro has been created and should be played at 60 fps (at least), to be fully appreciated.
 
Stuart360 said:
So you think they will be talking about the consoles as well?. Do you want to share what you think might be said that will have us talking about this for the next week?, or as you said in another thread 'the war starts'?
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They dont have to talk about consoles, just reveal all the PC specs and details, we have enough information already to compare.

And NDA will drop soon after I suspect, followed by RDNA2 white paper. I will not post my speculation, its close enough anyway. I have listed some things in the speculation thread, where it should be discussed.
 
geordiemp said:
They dont have to talk about consoles, just reveal all the PC specs and details, we have enough information already to compare.

And NDA will drop soon after I suspect, followed by RDNA2 white paper. I will not post my speculation, its close enough anyway. I have listed some things in the speculation thread, where it should be discussed.
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Well be sure to let us know what the big revelation will be when it happens.
 
Three said:
Dirt 5?
www.psu.com

DiRT 5 PS5 Has Option For 120FPS, DualSense Controller 'Is Great' Says Dev - PlayStation Universe

Codemasters has revealed that the power of PS5 has allowed the studio to have a 120FPS option for DiRT 5.
www.psu.com
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I think Call of Duty Cold War does as well.

www.vg247.com

120fps confirmed for Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War on PS5 and Xbox Series X/S

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War players on next-gen consoles will enjoy the highest framerates in series history.
www.vg247.com www.vg247.com

120fps confirmed for Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War on PS5 and Xbox Series X/S
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Riky said:
I know some PS5 games do, I said PS4 games on PS5. Does any of the collection for PS+ owners get 120fps for example?
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Are you suggesting the PS5 isn't powerful enough to run some PS4 games at 120FPs?

You do know that for that to happen developers have to patch it into their games. It's not an automatic process.

Truth is you have to wait until the announcements are made to see which games will be patched upgrades.
 
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MasterCornholio said:
Are you suggesting the PS5 isn't powerful enough to run some PS4 games at 120FPs?

You do know that for that to happen developers have to patch it into their games. It's not an automatic process.

Truth is you have to wait until the announcements are made to see which games will be patched upgrades.
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He knows very well Gears 5 at 120 FPS is a native XSX game. Halo MCC is probably too or it will get a patch, they're 360 games anyway.

Also it seems this thread is based on a bunch of nothing - according to the guy that made the tweets, lance, the info is not correct. The users that have been speculating PS5 needing patches to have boost mode look real silly now.
 
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