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Senate healthcare repeal bill fails - Collins, Murkowski, and McCain voted no

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Kthulhu

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Chaotic-Strike said:
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Ha Ha.
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Yes. Yes he is.

Get fucked Mitch. I hope all of your supporters tear you a new one.
 
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Chained Prometheus

Member
JettDash said:
Turtle should resign his Senate seat after this disaster.
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Agreed.

And seeing how McConnell apparently burned so much trust and credibility with his own GOP colleagues to get to this point and still come up short, I wouldn't be too surprised if that does happen. Definitely not a guarantee, but it seems plausible.
 
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Ithil

Member
To Far Away Times said:
I bet this was planned to have McCain be the deciding vote.

Some republicans would have viewed it as politically damaging to vote against the repeal, but privately probably did not want it to actually repeal. This lets McCain have a nice moment to go out on and high note.
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This was humiliating for McConnell and an embarrassing defeat. You don't plan for something like that to happen for what, PR for a final term senator?
 
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greepoman

Member
Seiniyta said:
I wonder if he voted yes on the worse bill earlier on because he knew I'd fail anyway only so he could vote NO later on to make it more dramatic lol. (unlikely, but I like to imagine that)
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About that...
Rayven said:
According to the hill article, he voted no because he didn't trust the House assurances that they wouldn't just vote this into law outright without conference adjustments.
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Ehhhh...so kick millions of insurance=ok
Not the proper process=not ok

I'll take it?
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
KenzinFive said:
Here's a Twitter video of McCain voting No. You can hear the gasps and see/hear some of the Democrats clap (including Warren in the back).

McCain even looks at McConnell after saying No. For a laugh, compare McConnell's expression from the beginning of the video to the end of it.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/890807095024603137/video/1

Past votes aside, McCain made the right vote here and he should be commended for it.
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Schumer waving off the applause is pretty funny too.
 
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MetroidPrimeRib

Banned
The one thing I will say is I hate that turtle fuck McConnell far more then I dislike McCain. So if he's gonna stick it to the turtle then I can at least give him the thumbs up for that.
 
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JCHandsom

Member
Shauni said:
If he does something legitimately good, then he would deserve praise for that thing. I mean, it's not like he ever will though, but the world is not so black and white. Nixon is one of the most corrupt motherfuckers of all time, but he helped sign into a law in regards to kidney dialysis. And he deserves credit for that, but no one ever going to forget he was the most corrupt motherfucker ever either.
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Ronald Reagan did some awful, horrible stuff that is unforgivable, but he signed the first no-fault divorce law in the country while he was governor of California. Doesn't change how I feel about the man, but I take everything into consideration.
 
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Aaronrules380

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Trey said:
Best case scenario is we're not in this situation at all.

He voted earlier this same day for a straight repeal of the ACA.
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No he didn't. And I won't deny that McCain is still a shit heel. But given the situation at the start of the week, this is still the best possible outcome. The scenario where we weren't in this position in the first place became impossible as soon as the elections ended with republicans controlling all three branches
 
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Shauni

Member
To Far Away Times said:
I bet this was planned to have McCain be the deciding vote.

Some republicans would have viewed it as politically damaging to vote against the repeal, but privately probably did not want it to actually repeal. This lets McCain have a nice moment to go out on and high note.
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Unless you're meaning a lot of Senators did this behind McConnell's back then I doubt it. It seems like from all we know now, McCain went totally rouge here and shocked the whole party.
 
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Angelus Errare

Banned
JCHandsom said:
Ronald Reagan did some awful, horrible stuff that is unforgivable, but he signed the first no-fault divorce law in the country while he was governor of California. Doesn't change how I feel about the man, but I take everything into consideration.
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I took that into consideration and still to this day wished Reagan's assassin was a better shot.
 
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KenzinFive

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There's a slightly longer video on YouTube that adds a few seconds in the beginning. The big double-doors on the bottom right open up, McCain emerges, and crushes McConnell's hopes and dreams seconds later.
 
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Figboy79

Aftershock LA
I'm glad McCain found it in him to do the right thing, but my feelings about him have not changed. He didn't do this because it was the right thing to do, period. He did it for his own agenda and an attempt to salvage his "legacy."

With that said, I don't particularly care about the why he voted against it, just that he did vote against it.

McCain hasn't suddenly become a hero, not by a long shot, but I'll gladly take this win for the people of my country.
 
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Koomaster

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Honestly I am all for celebrating at the moment; and yes that includes *thumbsup* for McCain in this moment. However he arrived here (mostly through the incompetence of his fellow GOP members) he voted 'no' and was in the minority of votes for his side. And that killed this thing.

Doesn't excuse past behavior or future fuckery he may get himself into. But in this moment; he didn't take the easy route and vote along his party's line.

So everyone try to breathe, be happy we're back from the brink for a bit. I'm still frankly stunned at McCain's last second flip; but it works and the result matters. Okay I'm rambling I should go to sleep. z___z
 
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antonz

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watershed said:
I hope The Turtle stops trying now. Move on to tax reform where they will hopefully fail again.
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McConnell's tears were definitely a this is dead for now tears. Threw it out that it snow upto the democrats to show how they want to fix this. He made sure to hammer the whole most of us honored our pledge to vote for repeal and replace.
 
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Mobius 1

Member
Hydrogen Bluebird said:
*Not from the US:

He keeps saying that it's for the american people but it seems people are overwhelmingly against repealing Obamacare. I mean, why would people not want to have health insurance?
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What he meant was that it's for the 1% top richest people who would benefit from this and get richer still. The rest of us doesn't really exist for the Republican Party.
 
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sangreal

Member
KenzinFive said:
There's a slightly longer video on YouTube that adds a few seconds in the beginning. The doors on the bottom right open up, McCain emerges, and crushes McConnell's hopes and dreams seconds later.
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As funny as these narratives are, McConnell knew full well that McCain was voting no. This was after they spent an hour begging McCain to change his mind
 
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thenight11

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
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3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down. As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal. Watch!
 
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dallow_bg

nods at old men
KenzinFive said:
Here's a Twitter video of McCain voting No. You can hear the gasps and see/hear some of the Democrats clap (including Warren in the back).

McCain even looks at McConnell after saying No. For a laugh, compare McConnell's expression from the beginning of the video to the end of it.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/890807095024603137/video/1

Past votes aside, McCain made the right vote here and he should be commended for it.
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Schumer is telling people on the D side to be quiet, no cheering/clapping is neat to see too.
He's right.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
trump has ryan zinke call lisa murkowski and tell her that alaska will never receive another federal dollar if she votes no, she votes no

trump ally blake fahrenthold says he'd like to kill susan collins in a duel after blaming her for earlier health votes not passing

trump famously said mccain was a loser for being a pow

*shrug* maybe they'd have always voted this way, maybe being personally insulted pushed them over the edge, who knows?
 
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