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[ApharmdX]

He just means 8 in general because the Republicans only have 52 seat, 8 shy of the 60 needed to pass most legislation.

Oh, I got it now. Makes sense.

 

[Shauni]

It's so annoying how much they lie about healthcare and just want to make it worse. People actually believe it.

Considering the reaction to this healthcare stuff since the beginning, not very many are believing them here.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Considering the reaction to this healthcare stuff since the beginning, not very many are believing them here.

The support for this stuff is very low.

 

[UberTag]

The fact some even realize their loved ones will die if the ACA is repealed but still vote for Republicans anyway is even more baffling to me. And these people really fucking exist. I guess their bigotry that leads them to support Republicans means more to them than their loved ones.

If their loved ones die, they'll just blame Obama.

 

[Jaeger]

He's so busy trying to win it's clear he doesn't give a fuck about people's lives.

 

[numble]

No, they voted on a number of amendments to the AHCA. They did not vote on final passage of anything

If the skinny repeal bill passed and the House did not amend the skinny repeal bill, they could've passed it and sent it to the White House without another Senate vote.

 

[KojiKnight]

I think you are over-estimating the American public tbh. Very few of them have anything close to 20 things in their list and most of them can be told "we made new jobs" and they'll eat it.

It's not just voters though, it's the mega donors. If during midterms republicans are suddenly gettings millions less in donations it could have a pretty big effect.

 

[Kevinroc]

They can't accept that they've lost so they will continue to push for "repeal."

I know a lot of people have trouble seeing them pushing this into 2018, but I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

 

[Imperfected]

They've been steadily losing public support for the repeal with every attempt, so it seems they long ago surpassed the point where their propaganda is actually effective. They're just steadily eroding the positivity bias they went in with at this point.

 

[demosthenes]

Waiting for Trump to say wouldn't it be better to do away with the Senate so the president can make decisions for the country.

 

[RPGCrazied]

And Trump thinks he is helping when he talks to people and all he says is "Its been 7 years, can you believe it?"

That will surely pass it.

 

[sangreal]

If the skinny repeal bill passed and the House did not amend the skinny repeal bill, they could've passed it and sent it to the White House without another Senate vote.

No, they would have had another vote on the bill before sending it to the house. The vote that failed was just an amendment vote to insert the skinny repeal language

 

[Shauni]

No, they voted on a number of amendments to the AHCA. They did not vote on final passage of anything

I thought the last vote they overrode and rewrote the AHCA and it became the American Healthcare Freedom Act? That doesn't count as a bill?

 

[Zubz]

Isn't McCain back to AZ for cancer treatment, thus they can't really do anything?

Didn't stop him this time. Plus, again, I feel McCain was either a spite vote, or was just there because he could be the "no" vote other Republicans were too afraid to be without any of the repercussions the ones seeking additional terms would face.

He's voted for worse. McCain's not against this, we just got lucky his agenda coincided with him delaying this.

 

[Effect]

I'd put good money on Trump hating Obama more for humiliating him at the 2011 White House Corespondents Dinner.

There is that but I have no doubt he hates him because he's black and powerful as well. His racism is on full display when it comes to situations like the Central Park 5. So I never had any doubt he's a racist as well. Remember Trump was pushing the racist birth certificate bs long before that dinner.

 

[Chezzymann]

They literally have to get collins or murkowski to say yes since McCain is recovering though. There's only 99 senators now. Not sure how this would pass.

 

[UberTag]

And Trump thinks he is helping when he talks to people and all he says is "Its been 7 years, can you believe it?"

That will surely pass it.

The media could ask Trump pointed questions about the specifics of any of these bills and he would not be able to answer a single one of them.

Can't sell something you don't even want to bother understanding in the first place.

 

[epmode]

I hate this man so goddamned much.

 

[Imperfected]

I thought the last vote they overrode and rewrote the AHCA and it became the American Healthcare Freedom Act? That doesn't count as a bill?

They haven't repackaged it as the American Apple Pie and Eagles Healthcare Patriotism Act of Freedom and Justice for All Act, yet?

 

[sangreal]

I thought the last vote they overrode and rewrote the AHCA and it became the American Healthcare Freedom Act? That doesn't count as a bill?

The vote would have erased the AHCA and replaced it with skinny repeal but you still need to vote on passing the bill, not just amending it

Here is a better explanation:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4872721/health-care-vote-senate-process/?source=dam

Step 4 is what you guys are skipping over

 

[Shoeless]

The fact some even realize their loved ones will die if the ACA is repealed but still vote for Republicans anyway is even more baffling to me. And these people really fucking exist. I guess their bigotry that leads them to support Republicans means more to them than their loved ones.

Just more depressing confirmation that hate is, in fact, easier and more powerful than love. As long as colored people suffer, white people are dying for a good cause.

 

[Shauni]

Didn't stop him this time. Plus, again, I feel McCain was either a spite vote, or was just there because he could be the "no" vote other Republicans were too afraid to be without any of the repercussions the ones seeking additional terms would face.

He's voted for worse. McCain's not against this, we just got lucky his agenda coincided with him delaying this.

McCain explained his vote, so it's no mystery or anything. He voted more about the manner in which the entire thing has been done, the behind-closed doors meetings, the lack of any hearings or meetings, putting the entire thing in the hands of about 5-6 Senators, the midnight vote, etc. It was his way of basically telling McConnell to go fuck himself with the way he's continued to do this in the more 'improper' way possible.

 

[Miletius]

This is why we need to flip some seats in the Senate(as unlikely as that is in 2018). This will never die until they lose control of both the House and the Senate. Even then, it probably won't die fully, but if the voters punish them by voting out people who are willing to go along with this shit then maybe they will finally get the message.

Until then, expect some form of repeal to be constantly lurching the American people from crisis to crisis.

 

[Cuburt]

Those tweets read more manic than usual.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Trump can't rest until he knows he finally managed to kill millions of people.

A part of me wonders how much of this is true.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Lol again.

This is the new benghazi, I can feel it in my bones.

 

[Clefargle]

Just more depressing confirmation that hate is, in fact, easier and more powerful than love. As long as colored people suffer, white people are dying for a good cause.

Unfortunately this seems to be the case far too often

 

[ExVicis]

You think McCain wouldn't make sure to be in DC long enough to vote for Graham's bill?

Are you not familiar with Chemo?

 

[UberTag]

Just more depressing confirmation that hate is, in fact, easier and more powerful than love. As long as colored people suffer, white people are dying for a good cause.

If hate truly is easier and more powerful than love, let's hope that hatred of Trump and the Republican party can drive people to the polls in record numbers next year.

 

[Buckle]

Waiting for Trump to say wouldn't it be better to do away with the Senate so the president can make decisions for the country.

Don't you hate it when democracy gets in the way of being a tyrant?

 

[Jack Scofield]

Doesn't Trump realize that a 51 vote majority will benefit Democrats once they take control of the Senate again? Does he really not see the long term implications of such a change?

Your preferred party is not always going to be in power, dumbass.

 

[Kevinroc]

Doesn't Trump realize that a 51 vote majority will benefit Democrats once they take control of the Senate again? Does he really not see the long term implications of such a change?

Your preferred party is not always going to be in power, dumbass.

He doesn't care about the long term implications of this or what it means for Republicans. He wants instant gratification. He wants to destroy a black man's legislative legacy.

 

[watershed]

Defunding the different arms of the ACA is pretty much the GOP's only move left.

 

[Meowster]

Sad how Republican leadership (Trump, McConnell, Ryan) are so desperate to murder millions of Americans. At least the people inside the USA are finally starting to wise up to it after years of going along with it.

 

[Jmanunknown]

It's even more evil. That's just collateral damage.

They're after the money. They can't pass tax breaks in reconciliation without the money stripped from the ACA. tax breaks that only benefit about 100 billionaires

This is why its so important to Trump and republicans currently. Obama and the ACA are an after thought right now. Its tax cuts for the wealthy or nothing at all. They would watch the country burn to the ground if they could get tax cuts.

 

[Mivey]

Would be funny if this is still on their "imminent" agenda by 2020.

 

[Kevinroc]

This is why its so important to Trump and republicans currently. Obama and the ACA are an after thought right now. Its tax cuts for the wealthy or nothing at all. They would watch the country burn to the ground if they could get tax cuts.

For Trump it's about Obama. For Congress it's about the tax cuts.

 

[NastyBook]

Can't let you do that Trump

Did Alex Ross draw this?

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

Bailouts for Members of Congress?

 

[Shoeless]

Doesn't Trump realize that a 51 vote majority will benefit Democrats once they take control of the Senate again? Does he really not see the long term implications of such a change?

Your preferred party is not always going to be in power, dumbass.

We are living in some strange times, when America, the bastion of democracy, has a President that is fretting about how freedoms are being threatened by a minority in government, and the only way to ensure the safety of the American people, and protect freedom is to destroy the democratic process and ensure abuses of executive power can always be obeyed. And a lot of people enthusiastically voted for this, while far too many people didn't even think it was worth going out to vote against and so stayed at home.

 

[Ekai]

Look at this government waste. The government isn't the problem, republican led governments are the problem. There are so many issues that need to be resolved and they keep trying to force an unpopular legislation. When is the media going to call out Drumpf and the Republican leadership for continually wasting taxpayer money?

At this rate never or rarely. Print media might but people care even less about that and stupid as hell right-wingers are just going to call everything that isn't Fox "the leftist liberal communist agenda".

 

[ZOONAMI]

Maybe if Obama just called trump and apologized for jabbing him at the correspondents dinner and tell him look man you could just resign and we could go play golf together all the time.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

I thought they used up reconciliation with their previous vote?

A Reddit post was wrong? *gasp*

 

[LinkAndEpona]

This is gonna happen for the entire time he is President, kinda depressing

 

[turmoil]

The ride never ends

 

[Username1198]

What successful legislation has "dear" "leader" even passed? Anything, I can't recall.

 

[DarkKyo]

Maybe if Obama just called trump and apologized for jabbing him at the correspondents dinner and tell him look man you could just resign and we could go play golf together all the time.

Trump would just record the phone call and hand it over to Fox News to air so he can have the pleasure of being able to humiliate Obama in return for the jokes he made at Trump's expense. Obama owes Trump fucking nothing, never mind an apology.

 

[g11]

I think this is their best and only chance and they know it so they are quite literally betting the house on it. If we're lucky their hard on for toppling Obamacare literally occupies them for the next 18 months and they still fail. That would be glorious.

 

[Shoeless]

Maybe if Obama just called trump and apologized for jabbing him at the correspondents dinner and tell him look man you could just resign and we could go play golf together all the time.

I have this vision in my head of Trump bursting into tears and sobbing into the phone, "THAT'S ALL I WANTED!"

 

[EdibleKnife]

Obama owes Trump fucking nothing, never mind an apology.

Particularly after years of Trump touting and never apologizing for the birther movement.