Arrogant Bastard
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It says Obama in the name.
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Senate Republicans to make another attempt at Obamacare repeal
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It says Obama in the name.
FloydtheFathead
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It would, but there would be a special election at some point is my understanding. I could very well be wrong. But my understand is the governor picks his replacement and then there is a special election in 2018.
It really does depend on when he dies or if he actually resigns.
Lots of Trump voters were not GOP voters in the traditional sense. See also Reagan democrats.
There are plenty of blue leaning suckers and not just trumpets. Jill stein voters , even a chunk of Bernie Bros who fell for Russian planted nonsense. Untangling those people will be as big a challenge as getting out the vote. And they're going to need to be dishonestly seduced. Telling them they're suckers, even with objective proof, will either harden their positions or make them stay home.
If the Repubs never nicknamed it that would he hate it as much?
RustyNails
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This bill is like Freddy Kreuger. He just keeps coming back.
He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
Darryl M R
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He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
And with each bill less and less thought is poured into it.
RustyNails
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When will Republican senators say enough? They're being rawdogged by orange clown for past 6 months.He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
Corporate and wealthy tax breaks are the prime directive. Abolishing federal spending is just a bonus. They are pure scum.
That's generally what I'm anticipating. Manchin and Brown will hold on in Ohio and WV. I think Bill Nelson will probably hold on in Florida but we'll see what happens there. Wisconsin will probably lean towards Tammy Baldwin, unless a top tier Republican decides to throw their hat in the ring.
That leaves Montana, Indiana, North Dakota, and Missouri. Have you heard about anything in those 4 races?
BlastProcessing
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North Dakota should be safe. Their D senator has like a 60+ approval rating there.
Missouri and Indiana are the tricky ones but they could survive with a blue wave and incumbency advantage.
He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
Hasn't he said on several occasions to let it fail? Then he wakes up the next day and thrashes around in bed with his phone, unable to let it go because he's an unstable, demented pissant.
hydrophilic attack
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Welp, here we go again I guess
That was before he started endorsing it and owning this failed bill.
Before? I think he said it again right after it failed the other night. Something like "like I said all along, just let it collapse!"
Pretending like he can muster a single coherent/consistent belief in decades.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Designated Survivor is a better reality than ours.
Also most likely knows that it's now or never moment for this. After recess GOP has to focus on small things like budget and tax stuff and then 2018 is here.
UberTag
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We know this. I'm not sure Trump does. I fully suspect he'll be barking about repealing Obamacare still in September. He could give a rat's ass about the budget and tax stuff and the debt ceiling until he eliminates Obama's core accomplishment and gets the needed wheels in motion for tax breaks for millionaires.
None of us can. 50% of eligible voters in the country sat out on the sidelines last Nov.
The last 6 months hopefully woke them enough to realize the consequences of whatever they were felt was more important. 2018 needs to ruin these fucks. Bring back dignity and rationale to our governance.
DontBeThatGuy
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Well, yeah. They live for fuckery. (and it's really annoying)
He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
He's right. They should keep trying to pass this """reform""" in utter futility, achieving nothing until, hopefully, Meuller finds something that makes impeachment a more pressing issue.
KarneeKarnay
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As someone with a fairly basic understanding of the US Senate, is this not insanity?
Trump doing this, even if he gets his win is going to gut the republicans in the mid-terms. They've already thrown so much at this to try and get a win and failed. All he is doing now is pissing off his base even more.
Also how bad is this going to look if they can't get it to pass a second time? The GOP and Republicans already look like morons for not achieving anything of significance with majority control of both the House and Senate. They can't really afford a loss like this, especially one where so much of their voter base is going to be damaged.
Trump doing this, even if he gets his win is going to gut the republicans in the mid-terms. They've already thrown so much at this to try and get a win and failed. All he is doing now is pissing off his base even more.
Also how bad is this going to look if they can't get it to pass a second time? The GOP and Republicans already look like morons for not achieving anything of significance with majority control of both the House and Senate. They can't really afford a loss like this, especially one where so much of their voter base is going to be damaged.
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They are never impeaching him. We have to wait for the 2018 elections to be over to see what happens.
Imagine if Dems get a majority in 2018, Trump will be even crazier.
They don't have a plan and they don't have the votes.
UberTag
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Hopefully there's someone on standby to play Lucy to pull the nuclear football away when Donny tries to kick it.
Yep, he said that yesterday and his pathetic excuse for a "press conference." That, of course, he was right all along to let it collapse. And now he's back at it again.
AstroNut325
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This is my question as well. Wtf...
And that was the last time he was ever relevant.
It is insanity. The last bill polled was at 17% approval. Trump's approval is high 30's, so even a lot of the people who like him think the bill's a raging dumpster fire. Senate republicans would like nothing more than to let it slip away, but Trump's an idiot so he keeps banging his head against it.
You know this probably could be solved by, you know, actually having a health care plan on the table
I like how mccain was all like "we have to work with democrats to form a a better bipartisan bill"
Trump is like: "change the rules so we don't have to work with anyone!"
Dude really is like a forum troll.
I like how mccain was all like "we have to work with democrats to form a a better bipartisan bill"
Trump is like: "change the rules so we don't have to work with anyone!"
Dude really is like a forum troll.
Yes but you're completely missing my point
Forget about the house for a minute
The Senate never voted on passing a bill. They voted on amending the bill. Once they agreed on the text they still have to pass the bill. They did not get that far
FloydtheFathead
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from least danger to most danger
Tester, McCaskill, Heitkamp, and Donnelly
Tester is still popular and will be okay probably of the 4
McCaskill is in more danger, but the good thing for her is that Goppers's best challengers have turned down the nomination so far is my understanding
Heitkamp has been good at being a chameleon and appealing to her constituents, but it's tough going for her.
Donnelly, it's not easy considering the climate in Indiana.
McCain lit a fuse and walked away with his middle finger pointing back. Any vote now hinges on flipping Murkowski or Collins, and flipping them almost assuredly means losing R votes to pick up D ones instead.
I'd only be worried about McCaskill and Donnelly, the way things are going.
Yeah, IIRC Heitkamp's number look fine but those two don't.
Abstrusity
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Considering that Carrier plant just up and started poofing after Pence and Trump lied through their teeth, it might not be so bad for Donnelly. That was Indiana, right?
10%. The most we can expect is two seats right now. Nevada is likely to go blue, and Arizona might be a toss-up. Anywhere else though?...
Not likely at all. Dems will be playing heavy defense this round. We have too many seats that are open for the vote.
skullmuffins
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Yeah. While I'd love to take out Ted Cruz, that's not likely to happen. It's morbid, but our best shot for taking back the Senate in 2018 is if there are two seats to pick up in Arizona.
Yeah, senate ain't looking good. Good news is we need 24 seats in the house and the DNC has claimed they're pouring efforts into roughly 6 dozen R seats they see as vulnerable, so here's hoping.
MrSaturn99
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Sure hope this cartoon continues proving true.
BoogieWoogie
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In case there's any doubt they're doing this to spite the first black President:
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