I fully believe we can take the house, It won't be easy, but it won't be too hard either. If they go forth with their plan for a populist 50 state message, we have a decent chance of getting House majority and that alone would be enough harm to Trump's agenda.
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Senate Republicans to make another attempt at Obamacare repeal
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I fully believe we can take the house, It won't be easy, but it won't be too hard either. If they go forth with their plan for a populist 50 state message, we have a decent chance of getting House majority and that alone would be enough harm to Trump's agenda.
The bill they were amending was Obamacare, not a bill that isn't law. There would be no second vote.
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It will be incredibly difficult to take the House. If it happens it will be a great accomplishment.
LudicrousSpeed
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Nope. The bill they were amending was the House-passed health care bill, which was the bill that was put on the floor by the successful Motion to Proceed that McCain came back for. That amendment replaced the entirety of the House bill's text with the 8 page "skinny reform" bill. After the amendment passed, they would have proceeded to a vote on final passage.
Azure Dream
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He is getting consumed by this single thing...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152
Boy, it's funny how the rules of Congress work completely differently when Republicans are in power, compared to Democrats, huh? Hypothetically, these differences seem critical. Hypo... critical. Hmmm.
I know this is just the orange turd impotently raging on Twitter, but if the Democrats even ATTEMPTED what he's suggesting, he and the entire Republican Party would start screeching until blood shot out of their eyes. (Sorry, "out of their... you know.")
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The bill they were amending was the AHCA, the House bill.
No the final vote they did with McCain saying no was amending the ACA to take out the mandate and some other stuff
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thepotatoman
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No, they were amending the AHCA, not the ACA.
It's disheartening how "Truth, justice and the American way" have all become such hostile concepts for modern America. Nobody in authority is actually interested in truth or justice (unless it involves, "minorities are bad and must be dealt with maximum violence and no questions asked), and the American way is now rapidly approaching fascism.
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thepotatoman
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It didn't fail. An amendment to the bill which would replace all the text of the AHCA failed. They can try as many amendments that they want like that.
Turbo Killer
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Yup, he said it at the police speech he gave.
Glitchesarecool
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Murkowski isn't going to flip on anything Trump wants considering how much he's shit on her lately. Collins is riding the medicaid train all the way home which harder Rs don't want.
That's... Dumb. Thanks.
Until a bill passes, they can do the vote hourly if they want.
Turbo Killer
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Just keep going for four more years and get nothing else done, lol.
CheesecakeRecipe
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They should really add a little fact-check feature under every one of his tweets.
Glitchesarecool
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No, the thing that fails now (and why everyone was celebrating) is that McCain is gone for 6 weeks at least and Collins/Murkowski aren't going to change without significantly bending to their will.
They have 2 weeks if they want keep fucking around with this, but after recess they have to refocus and drop health care agenda.
Saint Gregory
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Trump is trying to force the Senate to change the rules so they can simply pass any bill with a simple majority but he's too dumb to realize that it doesn't matter. This Senate knows this repeal is poison. None of their constituents are really asking for a repeal, most want the ACA fixed or a better Republican bill to replace it which is what Trump campaigned on (he has a very short term memory).
The Greek Freak
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0% chance of this happening in an even halfassed way. They couldn't even come up with a non shit slogan.
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I don't read Reddit.
Angelus Errare
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It's a battle of attrition really. Since there's no limit on the number of times they can attempt, they'll eventually get it done.
FloydtheFathead
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Probably, I think McCaskill will survive in the end since she's getting lucky no one capable wants to challenge her in this environment.
Donnelly is the one who is the most danger between the two.
I believe so, yes.
They're almost (are) out of time. The Debt ceiling is coming up and that will be a whole huge battle. (If you think killing ACA is bad for economy, this will make that look like child's)
McCain is out six weeks because of Chemo and if he dies/resigns in the immediate future, Ducey will make sure that McCain's stand in will kill any nuking of ACA since he opposes it.
By then you get to November and then you have the holidays around the corner. By January, its election year and they will not pick it up to campaign on with.
I thought this was the fake twitter account at first...surely he knows how people are reading this...
BoboBrazil
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This about Priebus?
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
What the hell are they going to do with the budget? Are they just throwing this year's budget aside as a casualty for healthcare?
Nydius
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LOL. Even if that's about Priebus, it throws serious shade on Kellyanne Conway too. Fucking hilarious.
FloydtheFathead
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Probably
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skullmuffins
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Well more likely someone giving him excerpts or hearing someone on TV talk about it, but yeah. We know Trump isn't gonna read an entire book.
Maiden Voyage
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Trump read? Good one.
GoldenEye 007
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I'd guess Sessions. People keep bringing up that he was among the first to back him and gave him establishment credibility.
So are we at 6th or 7th dimensional chess?
Probably Bannon. Trump really doesn't like how he gets portrayed as the evil puppet master behind the President's every move.
Turbo Killer
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4th dimensional chess with a hint of 3rd dimensional dominoes and a smidgen of 2nd dimensional mahjong.
9 levels!! Lets add Chutes and Ladders and make it an even 10
jimmypython
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LudicrousSpeed
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The text of the amendment modified certain provisions of the Affordable Care Act, but the bill under consideration was AHCA, and the amendment replaced all the text of AHCA with the "skinny repeal" text that would amend ACA if implemented as law.
This requires 2 steps:
Step 1: Amend AHCA to remove the text and put the new text in place.
Step 2: Pass the bill that was once AHCA but is now "skinny repeal" into law.
The Senate couldn't just take the skinny repeal bill and consider it on its own, both because it involves revenue and it's a reconcilliation bill. They have to begin with a bill that came from the House, and then modify that bill to turn it into the new law they want to pass.
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